Sexually Transmitted Disease (std) Talk

I had an accident with a deri heru girl, at the moment he was about to do sumata on top of me, she insert my penis in her vagina and rode me for a while (unprotected sex). She insisted she was "clean", got tested a day ago and she was on a pill. I told her to stop immediately and that scared the shit out of me.

About 3 weeks after this encounter I got fever, headaches, sore trough, and some pain in my knee joints. Symptoms passed after 3 days and I read this could be "early stages HIV symptoms". Also read that viral charges can be undetectable in early days of the exposure, so perhaps previous HIV test I took are inconclusive.

What scares me the most is that the girl who served me that time, somehow vanished and she is not available in the store anymore!

Almost 3 months have passed since that encounter, so I know the HIV test will be accurate this time.
 
About 3 weeks after this encounter I got fever, headaches, sore trough, and some pain in my knee joints. Symptoms passed after 3 days and I read this could be "early stages HIV symptoms".

That's true. Then again it could be a common flu too. The main point being that all doctors agree you cannot diagnose HIV from symptoms. Only a test will tell if you have HIV or not.

Stress is also a very good way to get all the symptoms you described. I personally know a guy who got swollen lymph glands in neck after he broke a condom with an escort. It took him five testings to fully understand he got nothing.

What scares me the most is that the girl who served me that time, somehow vanished and she is not available in the store anymore!

Again that doesn't mean anything. This is an industry where girls come and go all the time for all kinds of reasons. And you told she said she has been tested and was clean. Now if she lied and she hasn't been tested why would she go and take a test after you, find out she was infected and stop working? And if she actually took the test she was clean and couldn't give you anything.

So stop worrying, go and take the test after 3 months have passed and then come back to tell us you are all clean.
 
Symptoms passed after 3 days and I read this could be "early stages HIV symptoms". Also read that viral charges can be undetectable in early days of the exposure, so perhaps previous HIV test I took are inconclusive.

You also have to keep in mind that HIV transmission rates from F->M is extremely low. It essentially takes an open wound for both the woman and the man for that to have a chance of happening. Last time I went to my doc and he asked if I wanted STD testing, he only got me tested for Chlamydia and Gonorrhea despite him knowing that I'm fairly promiscuous.

That's not to say you definitely won't catch something nasty, and you should certainly get re-tested again and maybe even another time down the line, but chances are pretty low.
 
That's true. Then again it could be a common flu too. The main point being that all doctors agree you cannot diagnose HIV from symptoms. Only a test will tell if you have HIV or not.

Stress is also a very good way to get all the symptoms you described. I personally know a guy who got swollen lymph glands in neck after he broke a condom with an escort. It took him five testings to fully understand he got nothing.



Again that doesn't mean anything. This is an industry where girls come and go all the time for all kinds of reasons. And you told she said she has been tested and was clean. Now if she lied and she hasn't been tested why would she go and take a test after you, find out she was infected and stop working? And if she actually took the test she was clean and couldn't give you anything.

So stop worrying, go and take the test after 3 months have passed and then come back to tell us you are all clean.

Thank you MikeH!

I scheduled a test for next week, because I am extremely busy this week and travelling around the country.

I try to stop worrying but the doubt stills lingers on my head and it will not disappear until I get tested!
 
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You also have to keep in mind that HIV transmission rates from F->M is extremely low. It essentially takes an open wound for both the woman and the man for that to have a chance of happening. Last time I went to my doc and he asked if I wanted STD testing, he only got me tested for Chlamydia and Gonorrhea despite him knowing that I'm fairly promiscuous.

That's not to say you definitely won't catch something nasty, and you should certainly get re-tested again and maybe even another time down the line, but chances are pretty low.

Thank you Meiji for your comments!

I have done some research on chances of getting infected with unprotected vaginal female to male, and it says is around 0.04%. Studies have reported that even if the girl is HIV positive doesn't mean you will get HIV for sure (less than 1% chances of getting infected with unprotected sexual intercourse with a HIV positive person).

I guess I must be "lucky" if I got HIV in Japan, considering that HIV positive in Japan are less than 18,000 people (less than 1% of Japan population). Then get an HIV positive sex provider and break the 0.04% of the chances.

I was wonder if the percentage of contracting HIV is so low (less than 1%), how they are millions of people infected in the world? How they get this numbers? We all know the quantity of HIV positive people must be greater than the actual numbers, considering that they are a lot of people who doesn't get tested and live without knowing they are HIV positive.

A close friend of mine told me that I should be more worried about Herpes, Syphilis, Hepatitis, Chlamydia or Gonorrhea than HIV.

Anyway, I will try not to freak out. I must wait until next week in order to get tested.
 
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A close friend of mine told me that I should be more worried about Herpes, Syphilis, Hepatitis, Chlamydia or Gonorrhea than HIV.
Yup! That's pretty accurate actually. HIV is not as much of a threat as it once was... We still need to take it seriously, but other STD related infections can be just as dangerous if left unchecked. And, other STD's can have a greater effect on your health in a much shorter amount of time compared to HIV.
 
Also the symptoms you named are also the same symptoms of herpes just to let you know.
 
Ok guys I've been gone for awhile but I wanted to know if this is the place to alert members of a provider who has herpes( no one from this site has it), stay away from Miho at the soapland mermaid. It didn't ruin my life but I did get herpes from her. Even though it was CFS we did do BBBJ. I just want everyone to be safe.
I know this is a stupid question, but how did/do you know it was this girl? At what point during your session with her were you like "oh shit!"?
 
That's true. Then again it could be a common flu too. The main point being that all doctors agree you cannot diagnose HIV from symptoms. Only a test will tell if you have HIV or not.

Stress is also a very good way to get all the symptoms you described. I personally know a guy who got swollen lymph glands in neck after he broke a condom with an escort. It took him five testings to fully understand he got nothing.



Again that doesn't mean anything. This is an industry where girls come and go all the time for all kinds of reasons. And you told she said she has been tested and was clean. Now if she lied and she hasn't been tested why would she go and take a test after you, find out she was infected and stop working? And if she actually took the test she was clean and couldn't give you anything.

So stop worrying, go and take the test after 3 months have passed and then come back to tell us you are all clean.

After several weeks of worrying about whether I cough HIV, I took the test and I got the results. I was extremely nervous that I felt I was going to faint. The lab where I got tested have special and free counseling for people that just know they get infected.

They recommend me to sit down and open the results privately. At this moment, I had my heart was about going out of my chest at the moment I was about to open the envelope with the result.

Many things happened through my head until I read the results. It turned out to be NEGATIVE!!!!

I took a 4th generation test, after almost 4 months of the "risky exposure".

Although the accuracy of this test is around 99.97%, the lab recommend me to take another test in 3 months to be 100%, but informed me that failure on this test is very unlikely and extremely rare.

I feel so relieved! The mind is something very powerful, as I was getting "sick" because I had this doubt inside my head.

I posted just to let you know guys, that although the results were as I wished and hoped to be. Please, be extremely careful, there are so many nasty diseases just waiting for a mistake from us!

By the way, I got tested in other STD's and fortunately all results were negative!
 
I personally know a guy who got swollen lymph glands in neck after he broke a condom with an escort.
LOL, it happened to me 4 times!
 
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After several weeks of worrying about whether I cough HIV, I took the test and I got the results. I was extremely nervous that I felt I was going to faint. The lab where I got tested have special and free counseling for people that just know they get infected.

They recommend me to sit down and open the results privately. At this moment, I had my heart was about going out of my chest at the moment I was about to open the envelope with the result.

Many things happened through my head until I read the results. It turned out to be NEGATIVE!!!!

I took a 4th generation test, after almost 4 months of the "risky exposure".

Although the accuracy of this test is around 99.97%, the lab recommend me to take another test in 3 months to be 100%, but informed me that failure on this test is very unlikely and extremely rare.

I feel so relieved! The mind is something very powerful, as I was getting "sick" because I had this doubt inside my head.

I posted just to let you know guys, that although the results were as I wished and hoped to be. Please, be extremely careful, there are so many nasty diseases just waiting for a mistake from us!

By the way, I got tested in other STD's and fortunately all results were negative!
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Happy to hear about the good news!
 
I apologize in advance if this has already been mentioned in this 19-page thread, but it's worthy of a bump (pun intended). A lot of STDs can be asymptomatic, especially in male carriers. Chlamydia and gonorrhea may present symptoms or may not, in both men and women. Chlamydia in men is so frequently without symptoms that it's earned several nicknames as a stealth or silent STD. When symptoms are presented, they usually take 1-3 weeks to appear. Here's my point: most of us believe we're disease free because we have no symptoms but only a lab test can prove it. And a lab test is only as good as your last unprotected encounter. If a provider is checked monthly, but is infected by a "stealth carrier" between checks, then everyone who has unprotected activity with her after infection but before her positive test alerts her is at risk.

After many years of celibacy ended for me in the early '90s, my new GF contracted chlamydia and we went to the doc together and I had it, too. It was possible she gave it to me, but this girl was far from promiscuous, she was actually a bit of a prude, so the more likely scenario was that I had been carrying it for several years without knowing it. That was an eye-opener, and I was horrified wondering if I had contracted it long enough ago to have given it to other girlfriends without knowing it. It still has the power to upset me thinking I may have done that.

Call me naive, but I'm fairly late to learn (from reading, not experience thankfully) that unprotected oral sex is not necessarily safer than unprotected vaginal sex. It depends on where the disease is manifested in the host. If a woman has a vaginal STD, a BBBJ is very unlikely to transmit the infection. But if her job is in a pink salon, she's much more likely to get the infection in her throat from the semen of an infected customer (the charade with the wet wipe is just for show), which she can then pass on via BBBJ to her subsequent customers. Studies on transmission rates are hard to nail down, but it's not unreasonable (in fact, it's safest) to assume oral sex transmission is as easy as vaginal if that's where the STD is. And oral sex on an infected vagina could result in the infection spreading to the throat of the person doing the muff diving, too.

I wouldn't wish on anybody who enjoys the hobby the kind of paranoia I have about body fluids. I usually opt for HJ or CBJ because of the near-zero risk of any disease transmission. I'm weak, though, and sometimes can't resist the lure of a BBBJCIM, but afterwards I -- as SatoKM related -- have psychosomatic "symptoms" for a week or more afterward until I get proof of being ok. In fact, just writing about STDs makes me itch. There is no way I personally ever risk BBFS -- I am usually terrified of even CFS due to the potential for fluids to contact the exposed skin where the condom isn't, so like I said, I usually just ask for some cuddling and a HJ. :angelic: Anyway, I really am not trying to be the voice of doom, just maybe the voice of wisdom. If you have unprotected encounters whether oral, anal, or vaginal, please get formally tested regularly even if you have zero symptoms. Herpes and HIV would be your companions forever, but chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphillis are usually easily cured and not particularly dangerous IF diagnosed early enough, the key is getting them diagnosed and not assuming our lack of symptoms means we are "disease free."

Sorry to sound preachy -- not my intent -- and sorrier still if this is well-worn material. It's a risky hobby/profession and we'll all do well to look out for ourselves and each other, customers and providers alike. :nurse:
 
But if her job is in a pink salon, she's much more likely to get the infection in her throat from the semen of an infected customer (the charade with the wet wipe is just for show), which she can then pass on via BBBJ to her subsequent customers.

This isn't a charade. Wiping down a guy's dick with an alcohol wipe will kill off bacteria on the outside of a guy's dick that could lead to a bacterial infection not usually classified under "an STD". A guy's junk can be a very unclean place even for a guy that bathes regularly and has good bathroom habits. At a pink salon, where the girl doesn't shower with the guy, the only way to be sure there's some basic cleanliness is to wipe him down with alcohol before and after. Before is protection for her, after is protection for him.
 
This isn't a charade. Wiping down a guy's dick with an alcohol wipe will kill off bacteria on the outside of a guy's dick that could lead to a bacterial infection not usually classified under "an STD". A guy's junk can be a very unclean place even for a guy that bathes regularly and has good bathroom habits. At a pink salon, where the girl doesn't shower with the guy, the only way to be sure there's some basic cleanliness is to wipe him down with alcohol before and after. Before is protection for her, after is protection for him.
Thank you for the correction! At Emotion, the girl sprayed something on the cloth in front of me. At other PS, they seemed to be using generic wet oshibori towels, but perhaps those are pre-soaked in alcohol somewhere in the back?
 
Thing is, that alcohol wipe kills off the "good" bacteria on your dick too, and can lead to chronic infections including fungal ones. Speaking from personal experience here.

It's a double edged sword.
 
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+800 BBJ different mouths= 4 derma STD's!
 
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Thing is, that alcohol wipe kills off the "good" bacteria on your dick too, and can lead to chronic infections including fungal ones. Speaking from personal experience here.

It's a double edged sword.
I had some girls totally paranoid that spray every 5 mn anti bacteria on my dick, personally i hate that, wtf its burn this shit...
 
And the more funny its that the more serious was from my wife, before i met escort girls...

So dont freak so much, its more risky to have sex unprotected with "normal" girls than with escorts, its had been said here already...
 
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I just want to give this update not only to see if anyone can relate, but to warn others to be careful...even when just receiving unprotected oral sex here in Japan.

Ok, so I no longer have chlamydia since I was last posting about it on here from receiving oral sex from a woman I know. This woman is no longer a sex friend, but we still keep in contact as friends.

So, she recently had a general pelvic examination and come to find out she has HPV in that region. I never once at intercourse with her, but since HPV is a virus...I assume it is all throughout her body. She gave me unprotected oral sex on many occasions and now I am really worried I probably have HPV as well.

I don't have any warts, but I might have a strain that is more prone to causing cancer down the road. I say this because recently my rectum/anus has been swollen (please no homosexual anal jokes lol)?

There is a chance I might just have hemorrhoids because I noticed the swelling started not long after I started lifting heavier weights. Then again, I keep reading that HPV is the number one cause of colorectal cancer in men.

I had a simple physical check from a really young doctor at the hospital and he told me he believes it is just IBS and not cancer, but I plan to get a second opinion from a specialist. It is funny that he told me he thinks it is only IBS with all the major swelling because swelling isn't a symptom of IBS at all...it is a symptom of inflammatory bowel disease aka IBD.

Anyway, I will have more updates on this situation next week, but I thought I would share this with people and just say to be really careful because HPV can be spread from mouth to penis/vagina. I might not have it, but I won't be surprised at all if I'm diagnosed with HPV and anal cancer/IBD etc from a specialist in the near future.

P.S. Has anyone on here ever had sudden swelling in the anus that just didn't go away? I realize this is an extremely personal question that I think nobody will answer, but I thought I would ask anyway.
 
I just want to give this update not only to see if anyone can relate, but to warn others to be careful...even when just receiving unprotected oral sex here in Japan.

Ok, so I no longer have chlamydia since I was last posting about it on here from receiving oral sex from a woman I know. This woman is no longer a sex friend, but we still keep in contact as friends.

So, she recently had a general pelvic examination and come to find out she has HPV in that region. I never once at intercourse with her, but since HPV is a virus...I assume it is all throughout her body. She gave me unprotected oral sex on many occasions and now I am really worried I probably have HPV as well.

I don't have any warts, but I might have a strain that is more prone to causing cancer down the road. I say this because recently my rectum/anus has been swollen (please no homosexual anal jokes lol)?

There is a chance I might just have hemorrhoids because I noticed the swelling started not long after I started lifting heavier weights. Then again, I keep reading that HPV is the number one cause of colorectal cancer in men.

I had a simple physical check from a really young doctor at the hospital and he told me he believes it is just IBS and not cancer, but I plan to get a second opinion from a specialist. It is funny that he told me he thinks it is only IBS with all the major swelling because swelling isn't a symptom of IBS at all...it is a symptom of inflammatory bowel disease aka IBD.

Anyway, I will have more updates on this situation next week, but I thought I would share this with people and just say to be really careful because HPV can be spread from mouth to penis/vagina. I might not have it, but I won't be surprised at all if I'm diagnosed with HPV and anal cancer/IBD etc from a specialist in the near future.

P.S. Has anyone on here ever had sudden swelling in the anus that just didn't go away? I realize this is an extremely personal question that I think nobody will answer, but I thought I would ask anyway.
You probably already know from your research that HPV is the most common STD in the U.S. The below site has some pretty good information that you might find comforting about how common and potentially blase a virus it can be.
http://answers.webmd.com/answers/1173022/how-common-is-hpv-infection

Not sure what you mean by "swelling" -- like swollen hemorrhoids or swollen like a distended rectum. I think the doc would have been a bit more worried about the latter, so probably not that, eh?

If you have concerns about rectal cancer, you should get scoped, but the symptoms you are describing sound more like run-of-the-mill hemorrhoids. Cancer usually presents symptoms such as polyps (which you can't see, you have to be scoped) and internal bleeding, as evidenced by black stools or stools with blood "woven" into them (external bleeding or blood on the outside of your stool is not indicative of cancer, it's a symptom of hemorrhoids or an anal tear or fissure, etc.).

IBS, meanwhile, is not actually one thing; it's a generic term for a whole batch of somewhat nonspecific bowel and digestive issues, some of which have their own names as well, others are just lumped into IBS. What I think is likely is that your doctor was saying IBS (which frequently causes constipation, and hard or soft stools all of which can lead to 'roids) may have caused hemorrhoids. They can also be caused/worsened by heavy lifting, as you said.

HPV warts look nothing like hemorrhoids, so if you look at your rectum (shoot a pic with your phone if you have to) and then look at pictures on the internet (sorry, what is seen cannot be unseen), I think you will probably find you just have 'roids.

See the specialist for sure. I'm not a doctor, but I've lived with life-changing IBS and hemorrhoids for decades now. I know my 'roids very personally. Hell, I ought to give each one a name. They're better than having cancer, but I'm not sure they are better than having HPV, which seems frankly pretty benign, though the wart clusters can be pretty gross looking (on the 'net... happily I don't have HPV).
 
Well, I made an appointment to see a specialist next week.

I'm also thinking it is just the run-of-the-mill hemorrhoids as well because I noticed the major change soon after I started increasing on the weights. Of course I will mention to the specialist that I have been exposed to a woman infected with HPV via unprotected oral sex on numerous occasions to see if I can possibly rule out that. What makes HPV so annoying is that there is no way to test for it in men, so a dude can have it for years and suddenly have full-blown cancer through his body from HPV. I realize there are types of HPV that cause really obvious warts, but I'm referring to types 16 and 18, etc that don't present any symptoms.

They should call HPV the silent killer not Chlamydia! But that is just my 2 cents.
 
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Well, I made an appointment to see a specialist next week.

I'm also thinking it is just the run-of-the-mill hemorrhoids as well because I noticed the major change soon after I started increasing on the weights. Of course I will mention to the specialist that I have been exposed to a woman infected with HPV via unprotected oral sex on numerous occasions to see if I can possibly rule out that. What makes HPV so annoying is that there is no way to test for it in men, so a dude can have it for years and suddenly have full-blown cancer through his body from HPV. I realize there are types of HPV that cause really obvious warts, but I'm referring to types 16 and 18, etc that don't present any symptoms.

They should call HPV the silent killer not Chlamydia! But that is just my 2 cents.
I found out last week that Australia actually vaccinates against HPV now.
 
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What makes HPV so annoying is that there is no way to test for it in men, so a dude can have it for years and suddenly have full-blown cancer through his body from HPV.
What is your source for this? It doesn't chime with what I've read. What I have read suggests to me that HPV 16 infection, in particular, increases your risk of penile / anal cancer. I had assumed that the latter was in the event that someone received anal sex from an infected partner. My experience with warts (ordinary warts on fingers etc.) is that the infection stays pretty local. I don't know if that applies to HPV 16.
I have considered getting vaccinated for HPV, mostly to reduce the chance of genital warts.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hpv-infection/expert-answers/hpv/faq-20057761

With regard to penile and anal cancer - I guess both can metastasize to other organs and end up being "full-blown" but keep an eye on your Johnson and you may notice some symptoms before that:
http://oncolex.org/Anal-cancer/Background/MetastaticPattern.aspx
http://oncolex.org/penile-cancer/background/metastaticpatterns

From the point of view of sudden metastasis, I think a skin carcinoma is one of the scariest - I had a friend die of a secondary brain tumor within weeks of discovering the primary skin cancer.:
 
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