Sexually Transmitted Disease (std) Talk

[Jugemu]

Reading a few papers from 2020 onwards, it seems that even in the 1940s, after the introduction of penicillin in the treatment of gonorrhea, resistance became an issue with the global spread of N. gonorrhoeae, which resulted in high-level resistance that could not be overcome by increased penicillin dose.

That said, according to may papers, as for now, elevated ceftriaxone doses of 1–2 g still seem to be sufficient for gonorrhea treatment, since even in China it has remained without treatment failure. Also, some of the high-level ceftriaxone-resistant strains, such as the FC428 clone, appear to be more susceptible to ertapenem.

The literature suggests that a future scenario might play out in which gonorrhea will require individualized treatments based on actual antimicrobial susceptibility levels determined for each case.

 

[Sudsy]

Haven't heard of anyone who actually has permanent gonnorhea.

It's not permanent, but it does require treatment with some antibiotics so strong that they have to be administered during a hospital stay to observe for side effects.

As long as those still work, it's cureable. Fortunately they're unpleasant enough that SWs won't be taking them as a way of preventing STDs.

 

[Alice]

It's not permanent, but it does require treatment with some antibiotics so strong that they have to be administered during a hospital stay to observe for side effects.

As long as those still work, it's cureable. Fortunately they're unpleasant enough that SWs won't be taking them as a way of preventing STDs.

Yes, the actual conclusion of the articles I read was just that we will have to keep developing new antibiotics.

Yet people tend to read into it like there is a high chance of catching a gonnorhea strain that's impossible to cure.
If that's ever the case I'm gonna switch to CBJ so better hope it doesn't happen. 😂

 

[DuttyDan]

As a dude with HSV-2 (Don't worry. I stopped seeing prostitutes / escorts once I found out I had it. Missed out on a kinda decent-looking Japanese woman who was waiting for me before I got over here), the dude claiming to be an HCP is pretty spot on about his statement in regard to it, but he should differentiate between both types.

That seroprevalence percentage for HSV-2 in Japan is most definitely off due to the sheer unpredictability of the virus. According to my own research and that of the doctor who diagnosed me, I most likely contracted it in 2019 after I got back with an Ex-girlfriend, and had some crazy itching in the area that never materialized into bumps or anything until I had protected sex with an escort, got a friction burn from her being dry, then said burn turned into a blister 4 days later back in early-October of this year.

Why I say that the percentage is off is because, unless you request a blood test 12-16 weeks after you ALREADY had an outbreak, or have an outbreak and get the sore swabbed, you just will not know if you have it. In short, you need to have an outbreak in order for the infection to be confirmed, which can take years to actually manifest, THEN most people only have a prodromal phase (where you get burning or itching or a public hair-pulling feeling) and a single bump anywhere in the 'boxer region'.

HSV-2 is incredibly easy to mistake for a razor bump or random ingrown hair because it can manifest as a single small sore that doesn't really hurt, or a cluster of them, and can be on your inner thigh, ass, junk, or general public region.

Before I found out I had it, I had [usually unprotected] sex with about 15 regular women, and [protected PIV sex with] 8 escorts in America. None of them came down with it [ I told them I had it, and to get checked once I found out. Was a bitch to explain...].

To end this long ass post, PLEASE use condoms. I don't want to scare anyone, but the ex that gave it to me had no visible sores and didn't even know she had it.

And that's the thing with women. They can have non-painful sores in their coochie, so unless you have a microscope with a light beaming inside of her, you're fucked.

Edit: Even if you use a condom with a girl that has sores, it's still a pretty good chance you can get it. That's why I personally think that Genital Herpes shouldn't be stigmatized like it currently is.

If the girl doesn't know she has it, and she had painless sores inside of her, AND you play it safe, you can still get cooked. It's really just [un]luck of the draw.

 

[Alice]

As a dude with HSV-2 (Don't worry. I stopped seeing prostitutes / escorts once I found out I had it. Missed out on a kinda decent-looking Japanese woman who was waiting for me before I got over here), the dude claiming to be an HCP is pretty spot on about his statement in regard to it, but he should differentiate between both types.

That seroprevalence percentage for HSV-2 in Japan is most definitely off due to the sheer unpredictability of the virus. According to my own research and that of the doctor who diagnosed me, I most likely contracted it in 2019 after I got back with an Ex-girlfriend, and had some crazy itching in the area that never materialized into bumps or anything until I had protected sex with an escort, got a friction burn from her being dry, then said burn turned into a blister 4 days later back in early-October of this year.

Why I say that the percentage is off is because, unless you request a blood test 12-16 weeks after you ALREADY had an outbreak, or have an outbreak and get the sore swabbed, you just will not know if you have it. In short, you need to have an outbreak in order for the infection to be confirmed, which can take years to actually manifest, THEN most people only have a prodromal phase (where you get burning or itching or a public hair-pulling feeling) and a single bump anywhere in the 'boxer region'.

HSV-2 is incredibly easy to mistake for a razor bump or random ingrown hair because it can manifest as a single small sore that doesn't really hurt, or a cluster of them, and can be on your inner thigh, ass, junk, or general public region.

Before I found out I had it, I had [usually unprotected] sex with about 15 regular women, and [protected PIV sex with] 8 escorts in America. None of them came down with it [ I told them I had it, and to get checked once I found out. Was a bitch to explain...].

To end this long ass post, PLEASE use condoms. I don't want to scare anyone, but the ex that gave it to me had no visible sores and didn't even know she had it.

And that's the thing with women. They can have non-painful sores in their coochie, so unless you have a microscope with a light beaming inside of her, you're fucked.

Edit: Even if you use a condom with a girl that has sores, it's still a pretty good chance you can get it. That's why I personally think that Genital Herpes shouldn't be stigmatized like it currently is.

If the girl doesn't know she has it, and she had painless sores inside of her, AND you play it safe, you can still get cooked. It's really just [un]luck of the draw.

How did you know you have type 2 then?
A singular sore sounds like it could as well be type 1.

 

[DuttyDan]

How did you know you have type 2 then?
A singular sore sounds like it could as well be type 1.

I had a swab test done, then a culture at the hospital's lab came back as positive for HSV-2.

The singular sore was beyond the belief of my doctor as well. She said that it's VERY likely that I'd have been infected some years ago, and that it likely wasn't my first outbreak due to a person's first outbreak usually being the absolute worst one.

Like I said, herpes can quite literally be the EXACT SAME as an ingrown hair or razor bump. It can hurt, or can be painless. It wasn't until I got a blister on my shaft that I knew for damn near a fact that I was fucked. It just took a talk with my doctor, and me connecting the dots (pun kind of intended) that I boiled it down to my ex back in 2019.

 

[John Freedom]

I've read a few reviews saying that bringing an STD test with you to a provider "is the best gift you can get them", and it's a bit silly of me not to have considered that before. I found this clinic, but admittedly I'm a bit unsure of what package would be normal to do. Just the 8k yen set?

Or can you guys recommend any other clinics? This was just the first hit on google.

 

[kirayamato]

I've read a few reviews saying that bringing an STD test with you to a provider "is the best gift you can get them", and it's a bit silly of me not to have considered that before. I found this clinic, but admittedly I'm a bit unsure of what package would be normal to do. Just the 8k yen set?

Or can you guys recommend any other clinics? This was just the first hit on google.

get the 55k one

 

[Danbo]

I've read a few reviews saying that bringing an STD test with you to a provider "is the best gift you can get them", and it's a bit silly of me not to have considered that before. I found this clinic, but admittedly I'm a bit unsure of what package would be normal to do. Just the 8k yen set?

Or can you guys recommend any other clinics? This was just the first hit on google.

https://www.yoboukai-shinjukusatellite.jp/sp/fee/

This clinic is also very easy to use, anonymous and fast (same/next day results) without any appointment. Blood/Urin test with the most common STDs is 13k, throat swaps are additional 3.5k

 

[MisoHorny69]

How often do shops test their workers? I saw a few providers from one service and now 10 days after my last encounter I've developed what I'm pretty sure is gonorrhea (going to get tested tomorrow). However, all of the girls I saw have remained on the schedule.

 

[TAG Manager]

How often do shops test their workers? I saw a few providers from one service and now 10 days after my last encounter I've developed what I'm pretty sure is gonorrhea (going to get tested tomorrow). However, all of the girls I saw have remained on the schedule.

Providers typically usually test themselves monthly. Get yourself tested and then once you have confirmed what you have, report the findings to the shops you've used.

 

[MisoHorny69]

Providers typically usually test themselves monthly. Get yourself tested and then once you have confirmed what you have, report the findings to the shops you've used.

I got tested and luckily I don't have anything, just a traveler's UTI

 

[Maxblack]

Not only do ladies test regularly, they seem to have a personal endless supply of antibiotics. At the slightest hint of anything they'll load up.
Not great for long term but it works pretty effectively.
After killing off whatever virus it is, tests can show positive for a week or so even though you're no longer a carrier since they all dead and just floating around in your blood…keep that in mind.
Also remember that most STDs are easily cured and readily blocked depending on what services she offers (CFS etc), therefore she may indeed decide to keep working even if she tested positive…it's all about risk / reward.

 

[bdole]

I got tested and luckily I don't have anything, just a traveler's UTI

Don't forget to pee after sex. Studies show that that can actually help prevent STDs from taking hold if there was some minor transfer of bacteria. And it keeps you from getting UTIs.

 

[JoudanJaNee]

Don't forget to pee after sex. Studies show that that can actually help prevent STDs from taking hold if there was some minor transfer of bacteria. And it keeps you from getting UTIs.

Helps protect against yeast infections too. I've never gotten an STD, but I got yeast infections after each of my first two experiences with BBBJ. Freaked me out because I thought it was something worse. After the second instance the doctor told me to urinate after and it's been fine since.

 

[Alice]

Not only do ladies test regularly, they seem to have a personal endless supply of antibiotics. At the slightest hint of anything they'll load up.

I'd personally never do that. I'm focusing on a long term career here instead of quick money, which is why I prefer using protection and using antibiotics very sparingly.
If I'm using antibiotics more than once in 3 months I'd seriously see how this can be avoided for a while. (Of course I will take them as necessary for things that don't go away on their own.)
I really don't understand people who take antibiotics when they catch a cold or something like that.

I would only use antibiotics against an std after getting a positive test back. After all if you have symptoms down there as a girl like pain or itch it would be more likely to be an UTI or a yeast infection anyway.
And you can get test results back the same day or the next day.

 

[maikeru]

I'd personally never do that. I'm focusing on a long term career here instead of quick money, which is why I prefer using protection and using antibiotics very sparingly.
If I'm using antibiotics more than once in 3 months I'd seriously see how this can be avoided for a while. (Of course I will take them as necessary for things that don't go away on their own.)
I really don't understand people who take antibiotics when they catch a cold or something like that.

I would only use antibiotics against an std after getting a positive test back. After all if you have symptoms down there as a girl like pain or itch it would be more likely to be an UTI or a yeast infection anyway.
And you can get test results back the same day or the next day.

Totally agree

If you take antibiotics for too long (without actually killing the bug you want to kill), the body's defenses will lower and other opportunistic bugs will flare up.
Off the top of my head candida...

 

[Danbo]

Totally agree

If you take antibiotics for too long (without actually killing the bug you want to kill), the body's defenses will lower and other opportunistic bugs will flare up.
Off the top of my head candida...

Yeah, antibiotics are no smarties. Like you said taking them regularly can make yeast infections more likely, they also kill/alter your gut microbes which can lead to other issues. No kind of medication should be taken without a real reason for it.

 

[chinpogadaisuk]

Would most soaplands/providers accept an STD check from a foreign country? (Canada) or better to get it in Japan?

 

[Alice]

Would most soaplands/providers accept an STD check from a foreign country? (Canada) or better to get it in Japan?

I mean, it's not mandatory to show one in general.
They may not understand an English one, but you could show it to them by scanning with google translate.
A Japanese clinic is more recognizable for them of course and would be the slightly better choice overall but it's it's not mandatory there is no reason for them to feel like you are bullshitting them with a fake test or something.

 

[chinpogadaisuk]

I mean, it's not mandatory to show one in general.
They may not understand an English one, but you could show it to them by scanning with google translate.
A Japanese clinic is more recognizable for them of course and would be the slightly better choice overall but it's it's not mandatory there is no reason for them to feel like you are bullshitting them with a fake test or something.

Thanks! Worse case I get both...can ask the shop anyways...

 

[Azrael88]

Would most soaplands/providers accept an STD check from a foreign country? (Canada) or better to get it in Japan?

I'm not sure how it is in Canada, but I have done STD checks in both Singapore and Japan and for me I prefer getting it done in Japan since it's cheaper. During my previous trip I did a test right before seeing a girl and she was pretty happy to see the band-aid on my arm 🤣

Just nitpicking here but I also find the (+) (-) notation used in Japan much more easier to read and understand as compared to the full lab reports we'd get in Singapore:

 

[CockFighter]

Yobokai is affordable and quick, and whoever is asking for those is probably used to the format their exam results are presented.

I don't know how much this holds up in reality but I think a Japanese provider won't be totally at ease with an exam from an unknown foreign clinic presented in a format she isn't used to. When in Rome...

 

[kirayamato]

recently I read a post on reddit about someone who got drunk and doing risky sex and panicking to get PEP in sapporo. unlike tokyo, it is almost no clinic found on google search provide PEP.

with such scenario, would you take PrEP on daily basis?

or do you take PrEP even with covered service (in case of condom break)?

saw many people panicking over condom breaking or if provider suddenly put it in after sumata, was thinking to take on demand PrEP for peace of mind sake on top of condom.

 

[Sudsy]

recently I read a post on reddit about someone who got drunk and doing risky sex and panicking to get PEP in sapporo. unlike tokyo, it is almost no clinic found on google search provide PEP.

with such scenario, would you take PrEP on daily basis?

PrEP only works if it's taken before exposure. Think of it like hiring armed guards to keep thieves out of a jewelry store.

PEP is a much stronger and more aggressive treatment. Think of it like a police manhunt for thieves who just robbed a jewelry store.

Posting the guards (PrEP) after there's been a robbery isn't going to solve the problem. You need a manhunt (PEP) to chase down the bad guys (HIV containing cells) and capture them.

or do you take PrEP even with covered service (in case of condom break)?

saw many people panicking over condom breaking or if provider suddenly put it in after sumata, was thinking to take on demand PrEP for peace of mind sake on top of condom.

With modern PrEP not having liver issues, there's no reason not to take it, it's definitely an extra layer of protection. If you're engaging in anal in particular, it's a good idea. You're less likely to have side effects (diarrhea, nausea) if you're just taking it regularly though - it takes time to become accustomed to the drug.