Sinapse Unmasked - Nampa / Pickup in Japan finally revealed on camera

[User#8628]

What would be the point of pickup or dating in general, if you did that?

So many Japanese guys have offered me money on the street at some walk up enjou kosai style. I think the point of that is to get sex with the girl you want. To be honest, i find it a better method than ordering a girl on a picture which can be photoshop or bait and switch.
Its a way to get with a girl who is 100% your type for looks, and i dont see how it would be more disrespectful than asking a girl on the street to date you or have sex for free.

As for girls, i know many girls who would tell a guy to pay for their time when they get nampa'ed and if they are kyaba or escort, its logical that they may not want to give their services out for free but may want to give the guy a chance at getting with them this way.

Of course, imo, nothing wrong with sinapse or any guy decining that offer if their are not willing to pay, very understandable.

Also, i wouldn't say sinapse goes for vulnerable women since he likes kyabajo who work with men and are masters at playing them, they are not naive baby birds at all.

 

[RandomTokyoGuy]

As for girls, i know many girls who would tell a guy to pay for their time when they get nampa'ed and if they are kyaba or escort, its logical that they may not want to give their services out for free but may want to give the guy a chance at getting with them this way.

Sorry, but something is utterly wrong with your world. Of course there is nothing wrong with the girl telling him to get lost or that she only does compensated dating. That's her choice, but assuming that I try to consume a service for free, just because I approach a woman who happens to work in the adult industry? What are you, a walking sex toy for rent or a woman with a work and a private life like most others?

I seriously doubt that @Sinapse 's point is to show that or how you can find p4p on the street, but rather how to approach and build a connection to a woman.

I'm not sure where you grew up, but if you think it's normal or acceptable for guys to walk up to some random girl and offer her money for sex, I'm seriously sorry for you.

 

[User#8628]

I'm not sure where you grew up, but if you think it's normal or acceptable for guys to walk up to some random girl and offer her money for sex, I'm seriously sorry for you.

So why the fuck would it be normal to approach a girl and try to take her to a love hotel, but not to do the same but bring money to the table???

Your logic doesn't make sense at all.

If a guy would nampa me with the clear intention of having sex with me on the same day, and i normally get compensated for that, i can let him know i think.
Of course i would not "demand" money, its simply a guy making an offer and a girl making a counteroffer, both free to reject it.
Plus yes, i have a private life but that does not mean i am looking for sexfriends at the moment so why would such an offer make more sense than a money offer?

And sadly where i grew up such things are not normal (boring place) but news flash: in Japan its quite normal. And quite some of the guys i met this way have been cool dudes and gentlemen.
I've also known a girl who got a papa who gave her 100.000 yen each time they met and he met her by approaching her on the street, talking her for a talk somewhere first and then proposed this. Sounds pretty great to me! This is all a few years ago when the economy was better.

I seriously don't get why it would not be wrong to walk up to a girl and try to take her to a love hotel, but why it is wrong for guys to do the exact same thing but offer money.

Again, this has not much to do with sinapse's post and the things that he does so lets not get off topic too much.

 

[Sinapse]

Just as a note, that girl in question wanted money to attend a party, not to meet me / sleep with me one-on-one. She was perfectly happy to hang out and drink with me alone, but not for the party. I've never been asked for money in the way you guys are now discussing even though I've met many women who worked in night life. Actually, overall, the women who work in nightlife were more likely to insist on paying for ME (for dinner and good company or whatever) than other demographics.Anyway, point is, for me, doing street pickup has never turned into p4p or any sort of attempt on the girls' part to make it p4p and I think that is rather rare in Japan. Occasionally you'll get girls try to get you to come to their kyaba / store or whatever, but I've never been propositioned to directly exchange sex for money.

 

[justhavefun]

You dismissed her because she wanted you to pay for her to attend the party, as you refused
to pay her I doubt she was interested in going for drinks after that conversation, especially since
you were rude to her by telling her to disappear.

It does not matter if it was sexual or not, she still wanted you to pay and as you refused she was
no longer interested.

I understand what you were trying to show by putting the video up, but I feel it back fired as it
showed that the girl was in control of the situation and she had more game than you.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

I understand what you were trying to show by putting the video up, but I feel it back fired as
it showed that the girl was in control of the situation and she had more game than you.

I didn't get that at all. As soon as she mentioned money, @Sinapse bailed.

I thought it was a good battle. He tried his lines, she countered. Only issue I had was the way he dismissed her with 「あっち行け」. Even though it was smiling throughout I thought that wasn't cool. I would have used a 残念ね or similar.

 

[Glock]

Following this interesting thread first of all:

1) great job @Sinapse for coming up with this sort of post. Takes alot of balls and confidence to come up with something like this and exposing yourself on such a forum.

2) As for the fact that hes preying only on younger girls, my personal view is that for casual hookups i would definitely prefer women in their late twenties or early thirties. But that is my personal preference and by no means does it imply that girls under 25 are easier prey. Infact girls under 25 are harder to pull since they know that they are in demand and usually require more work and so the fact that he is so successful is in itself a great achievement. If it was so easy to exploit vulnerability, most (not all) guys here would don a gold chain and do the same rather than go the p4p route. It takes alot of practice and confidence to do what he does. I don't consider girls of that age group worth the hassle since the sex is usualy not that great and talking to them is usually very limited to superficial aspects, but then thats my experience and not taking amything away from the quality of girls that @Sinapse is pulling

3) Those hating on him or criticising his selection need to understand that his post is not about finding your future wife but infact about how to get hot japanese girls on a regular basis. You could apply his principals on older mature women as well with your own modifications.

Finally @justhavefun im sure your game is also solid and i am sure your wife to be is a real stunner, however it is unfair to detract or label @Sinapse as someone who is exclusively preying on the vulnerable when infact the purpose of this post is something else entirely. Every guy has an approach that works for them.

Lastly, videos like these are a great educational tool not just for nampa but also for developing self confidence in dealing with social situations and should be seen with an open mind. Criticism is always healthy. For me the video would have a problem if he was being too creepy or too pushy or insulting which he is not. Just my two yen on the subject. Ymmv.....

 

[justhavefun]

Finally @justhavefun im sure your game is also solid and i am sure your wife to be is a real stunner,

Sorry!! I am married.

My concern is that as sinapse is focusing on just pulling girls and not following through with a genuine relationship, his game could tarnish the reputation of foreigners as a whole, so making it harder for other foreigners, even more so when he is rude to those who reject him.

 

[meiji]

Sorry!! I am married.

My concern is that as sinapse is focusing on just pulling girls and not following through with a genuine relationship, his game could tarnish the reputation of foreigners as a whole, so making it harder for other foreigners, even more so when he is rude to those who reject him.

You've made your point. Move along.

 

[just4fun]

Its not like he is some old man who preys on young girls,

Hey........what are you saying

 

[Frenchy]

Sorry!! I am married.

My concern is that as sinapse is focusing on just pulling girls and not following through with a genuine relationship, his game could tarnish the reputation of foreigners as a whole, so making it harder for other foreigners, even more so when he is rude to those who reject him.

Well many Japanese dudes do the same and as far as I could see on the streets they can be more pushy

 

[IronGiant]

Generally I like to get a sense of if they understand English since it significantly changes how you communicate / talk to them.

That's fascinating. Could you elaborate on how a girl's knowledge of English affects the way you relate to her even though you don't speak to her in English?

 

[Frenchy]

You dismissed her because she wanted you to pay for her to attend the party, as you refused
to pay her I doubt she was interested in going for drinks after that conversation, especially since
you were rude to her by telling her to disappear.

It does not matter if it was sexual or not, she still wanted you to pay and as you refused she was
no longer interested.

I understand what you were trying to show by putting the video up, but I feel it back fired as it
showed that the girl was in control of the situation and she had more game than you.

Sorry, but something is utterly wrong with your world. Of course there is nothing wrong with the girl telling him to get lost or that she only does compensated dating. That's her choice, but assuming that I try to consume a service for free, just because I approach a woman who happens to work in the adult industry? What are you, a walking sex toy for rent or a woman with a work and a private life like most others?

I seriously doubt that @Sinapse 's point is to show that or how you can find p4p on the street, but rather how to approach and build a connection to a woman.

I'm not sure where you grew up, but if you think it's normal or acceptable for guys to walk up to some random girl and offer her money for sex, I'm seriously sorry for you.

its obviously not normal to meet random girls and propose them money for sex immediately . Unless they are clearly in the trade (and in some cases they may dress the part but are not, so better be careful!)

 

[Jbagz]

Lastly, videos like these are a great educational tool not just for nampa but also for developing self confidence in dealing with social situations and should be seen with an open mind. Criticism is always healthy. For me the video would have a problem if he was being too creepy or too pushy or insulting which he is not. Just my two yen on the subject. Ymmv.....

Yes, and I wouldn't be surprised that @Sinapse will one day find that he can repackage his skills to apply to a more general audience.

He is basically teaching the art of persuasion and it applies to so many aspects of life. Yes, it is great for picking up girls, but these skills can be modified to business world very easily.

 

[justhavefun]

Well many Japanese dudes do the same and as far as I could see on the streets they can be more pushy

I know!! Japanese men can do what they like its their country.

 

[just4fun]

I know!! Japanese men can do what they like its their country.

Not a good excuse.

Anyone can whatever they like up to certain limitations but picking up girls (and girls picking up guys) has been around since before languages and so has trading so.......don't give me this Japanese guys can do whatever they. We can all do whatever we want (unless it says Japanese only but those doors are coming down as we speak)

 

[olympuss]

Wow, interesting video. Not in the game myself, but I've read some of @Sinapse 's posts here. Before watching this, I always imaged that you are a super attractive guy (like Zac Efron) or at least, let's say, muscular type. But now, I believe that it's all about your skill and confidence. Great job.

 

[Sinapse]

1) great job @Sinapse for coming up with this sort of post. Takes alot of balls and confidence to come up with something like this and exposing yourself on such a forum.

Thanks!

3) Those hating on him or criticising his selection need to understand that his post is not about finding your future wife but infact about how to get hot japanese girls on a regular basis. You could apply his principals on older mature women as well with your own modifications.

That's absolutely right - it's up to everybody to decide for themselves which type of girls they like and go after. If you happen to be interested in more mature women it's likely to be a bit easier since they're less in demand and also have less "games" and random flakiness. It certainly can be simpler with older women.

That's fascinating. Could you elaborate on how a girl's knowledge of English affects the way you relate to her even though you don't speak to her in English?

I go over this a little bit in the "Are Japanese Girls Easy?" Video, but the long short of it is that essentially the less English a girl speaks, the more you're going to have to relate to her in a culturally specific (Japanese) way, language included but also content. The more English she speaks, the more internationally minded she is and the more you can talk about various things as you would with anyone else - like travel, global culture, etc. Often the hottest girls in Japan have little to no interest in foreign things, so that cuts off a lot of conversational threads before they even begin.

Yes, and I wouldn't be surprised that @Sinapse will one day find that he can repackage his skills to apply to a more general audience.

He is basically teaching the art of persuasion and it applies to so many aspects of life. Yes, it is great for picking up girls, but these skills can be modified to business world very easily.

Lastly, videos like these are a great educational tool not just for nampa but also for developing self confidence in dealing with social situations and should be seen with an open mind.

^ Youre absolutely right, there's a huge amount of overlap. If it wasn't for cold approach and the skills gained from that I never would have been able to build a business (unrelated to pickup / Japan).

 

[IronGiant]

Often the hottest girls in Japan have little to no interest in foreign things, so that cuts off a lot of conversational threads before they even begin.

So what would you say are the three or four most general-purpose non-foreign topics with which a foreigner (perhaps with some study) could become conversant in order to have at least a modicum of common conversational ground with the majority of girls approached? Assume that the foreigner is fluent in Japanese.

 

[daneyboy]

This thread is the perfect example of what's both good and bad about TAG. Some amazingly helpful content. And some amazingly unhelpful distractions.

 

[Sinapse]

So what would you say are the three or four most general-purpose non-foreign topics with which a foreigner (perhaps with some study) could become conversant in order to have at least a modicum of common conversational ground with the majority of girls approached? Assume that the foreigner is fluent in Japanese.

It depends largely on what type of girls you're going after, but in general, understanding their world helps quite a bit. So things like paying attention to nails (and learning the different types and what they mean / what jobs and types of girls have vs don't have nails), eyelashes (again, types and what they mean), popular fashion brands the types of girls you like are into (if any), etc. These kinds of things help you make hyper-accurate cold reads / assumptions and open up girls who otherwise would be icy cold to foreigners

 

[Jbagz]

This thread is the perfect example of what's both good and bad about TAG. Some amazingly helpful content. And some amazingly unhelpful distractions.

Even the "unhelpful distractions" can be made useful if you ever want to become a troll or a cry bully.

Try to think of the "unhelpful distractions" as lessons in the art of cry bullying. You can learn valuable troll tactics such as defending a weak-assed position with non sequiturs and faulty logic.

Everything is a lesson if you get your mind right.

 

[daneyboy]

Even the "unhelpful distractions" can be made useful if you ever want to become a troll or a cry bully.

Try to think of the "unhelpful distractions" as lessons in the art of cry bullying. You can learn valuable troll tactics such as defending a weak-assed position with non sequiturs and faulty logic.

Everything is a lesson if you get your mind right.

Kind of like licking vomit off a sidewalk I guess.

 

[Jbagz]

Kind of like licking vomit off a sidewalk I guess.

I don't really understand that, but it is a good line add to your troll toolkit.

It is a visceral string of words that can be tossed in hand grenade fashion at almost any post.

Just pull the pin and let mayhem ensue.

 

[meiji]

I don't really understand that, but it is a good line add to your troll toolkit.

It is a visceral string of words that can be tossed in hand grenade fashion at almost any post.

Just pull the pin and let mayhem ensue.

Commenting on the distractions is just as distracting. Lets get back on topic. Thanks.