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Standard Practices for Meeting Ladies

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This is a first run draft of something we've been putting together. Please leave your comments in the replies below.

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Tokyo Adult Guide


Standard Practices for Meeting Ladies

2011 Guide

This is a short guide compiled among some of our more experienced members and staff. This is no way meant to replace common sense and common courtesy when participating in services described here. The intention of this practice guide is to give newer folks a general view of how this industry works from the inside out. We are not giving away trade secrets or any super-secret-handshake, just simply some general things that you should consider and be aware of.

One of the most commonly forgotten rules of this industry is common courtesy. When you are meeting a lady, there are several basic principles to keep in mind.

1) If you are inviting a lady to your home, it would be a good idea that that your place is clean and well lit to give the lady a feeling of comfort and safety. A dimly lit, dirty place does not give off a good impression and could impair the rest of your evening.
a. Don’t offer any alcoholic beverage unless it’s something you have pre-arranged.
b. Don’t be drunk or under the influence of any illegal substances.
c. Don’t have anyone else staying in your room during her visit; this is usually against the rules in most cases unless it’s a pre-arranged scenario.
d. If offering water, giving the lady a sealed bottle of water may be much appreciated.
e. Provide her a clean towel and maybe have a fresh box of tissues available.
f. Usually a shower is required before any other events occur; please do not try and negotiate this part of the date. This is a hygiene and safety point for both persons.
g. If there are any gifts involved, it’s appropriate to handle that upon her arrival. (unless other arrangements have been made)

2) If meeting at hotel, either a love hotel or a regular hotel, make sure that there is a extra towel and the room is fairly neat. Some of the business hotels in Japan are good enough for one person, but two people can be a crowd in some of the cheaper ones.
a. Refer to the subset above, apply those same principles here.

3) When arranging to meet a lady at a specific location, please be prompt or be prepared to let her know you are running late or you need to cancel. One of the largest complaints from ladies we have talked to is that clients will rush one of them to show up a spot at a certain time and the client is late by 10 minutes or more and does not apologize for being late. If you cannot notify her that you will be late, then apologize for keep her waiting. We have told the ladies we have talked with to also make sure to apologize if they are late as well.

4) For safety and security purposes, do not leave valuable items lying about that may be easily accessible when you are not with visible range. The lady will likely be thinking the same thing, keeping her personal items close to her or safely tucked away in her bag. There have been some incidents in the past of ladies stealing from their customers and vice versa. There have been several reports from ladies where a customer secretly took back their gift while showering or doing other things. In some cases, the same is reversed where some ladies took advantage of a customer. So, please exercise caution on both sides to prevent any problems.

5) Respect the ladies rules and time limits. Please do not expect a free extension or ‘chat’ time. Her time is valuable as is yours, so it would be highly considerate of you to respect her boundaries and rules.

6) When it comes to her personal information please do not attempt to gain her personal email address or phone number. Additionally, do not offer your personal details or business card. If she is interested in something more, she will initiate it and proceed from there. The ladies in most cases want to protect their personal identity and related information. In the case of the client, you do not want to have your personal information fall into the wrong hands. Certain people working in sensitive jobs probably cannot afford a less than favorable public exposure.

7) In most cases, the type of date is usually pre-set and you should be aware of what you can or cannot do. If the lady refuses to do something that she’s not comfortable with, please do not try and force her to do it. If she is doing something you do not like, please be sure to let her know immediately. Everyone has seen porn movies and it is all acting, therefore the following acts are usually not appreciated by most ladies even though you have seen it in a porn movie:

a. Biting, hard sucking, twisting, and pinching of sensitive body areas. Think about how this would feel to you and be considerate of how she feels. Some ladies don’t feel comfortable to say ‘no,’ but they’ll be less likely wanting to see you again if injure them.
b. Hard finger play: No matter what part of the body this done on, it’s not pleasant and can cause serious damage if done for too long of a time period.
c. Anal: In the case of Japan, a rather large majority of ladies do not offer it. Please do not force the issue if she says ‘no’.
d. Larger: Simply put, a larger size is not always better. Pain is not pleasure.
e. Body odor: Consider how you actually smell to someone else. This goes both ways for people that wear too much cologne and other people that either do not bathe enough or use deodorant. Please stop and smell the roses on this point.

8) Applies to independent ladies: When using email or a telephone to contact them, please do not initiate inappropriate questions or expect a chat service. This is a business for them and time spent on someone who wastes time with long telephone calls or repeated emails, without making an appointment is lost time for them. From a few independent ladies both in Japan and abroad, this is a very common occurrence.

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8) Applies to independent ladies: When using email or a telephone to contact them, please do not initiate inappropriate questions or expect a chat service. This is a business for them and time spent on someone who wastes time with long telephone calls or repeated emails, without making an appointment is lost time for them. From a few independent ladies both in Japan and abroad, this is a very common occurrence..


Yes, continuous email conversations and such are a very common occurrence, which can be difficult. Especially combined with inappropriate questions. However, it does depend on the independent's service to some degree as some include email/phone conversation as part of their service. ;)

Anyway, a few additional things that are red flags for some independents: :D

1) Most independents post a profile/ad on at least one escort site. These ads (usually) include rates, pictures, and some degree of personality/service information, as well as reviews, if she has any. It is never a bad idea to read the ad because she may not answer email that asks about something that is specifically listed on her ad....like 'what are your rates?'. She will immediately know that her ad was not read and might think that a booking is less likely.

2) Negotiating prices, particularly as a first time client, might not work out well (and even tried and true clients are better served by asking indirectly, or waiting for an offer). It's more than a bit impolite and while many businesses offer discounts, they are also slightly less personal. Independents, especially from affluent countries, escort because they 'want' to and probably list their prices based on how they see themselves; hence rates are directly intertwined with their self-image. To some asking for a discount will seem pushy and indicate the likelihood of other undesirable traits. It also may be a hint that a meeting will not be fun. If compelled to write an independent that is out of one's ability to afford, then saying so is not a bad thing, along with an honest compliment like "I just wanted to say you are very attractive". It will be appreciated on several levels (and may result in a discount).

3) Almost invariably there are pictures in escort galleries. These are the pictures that can be shared. Asking for more is not always welcomed since it is another thing that many find does not lead to a booking. If there are no face pics in the gallery, then clearly there is no interest in sharing such information. Also, asking an escort to take a picture with the date on it (or some such) to prove the escort is real may work with some, but others, with a number of reviews, will let these reviews do the speaking (unless all her reviews have perfect marks...which is a red flag for hobbyist!). :rolleyes:

4) Inappropriate topics in email could be placed in an infinite loop and it wouldn't be stressed enough :confused: Asking if a girl does fs in a country where fs 'is' illegal is not the best idea and while officialdom may 'seem' to turn a blind eye, making an example of a foreigner is almost always appealing. It may not be well known but: asking 'can' carry a higher penalty though usually just carries an equal one. And rare != never :eek:

It's easy to become complacent but there is no such thing as an erased email message. Unless you run your own email server and all the people you send messages to also run their own email servers and even then if there are no intermediary entities.

In any case, everybody is different and so naturally each independent has different policies but avoiding these common flags will probably result in a smoother booking process. Though there is a business side, in the end it should all be about fun! Hope it helps!! (^0^)/
 
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but can I add something to the list?

When in missionary position, please try to support your body weight with your hands, legs and knees. It’s extremely unpleasant and painful for a woman when you crush her ribs, pelvis and spine with your body weight. It’s physical abuse when you repeat the same behavior despite being told how much it hurts.

Different ladies may have different preferences or pain limit, but unless pain play is previously arranged please refrain from hurting providers.

Please have a look at the different variations of this position below. None of the graphics include the male or top crushing the woman with their body weight.


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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but can I add something to the list?

When in missionary position, please try to support your body weight with your hands, legs and knees. It’s extremely unpleasant and painful for a woman when you crush her ribs, pelvis and spine with your body weight. It’s physical abuse when you repeat the same behavior despite being told how much it hurts.

Different ladies may have different preferences, but unless pain play is previously arranged please refrain from hurting providers.

Please have a look at the different variations of this position below. None of the graphics include the male or top crushing the woman with their body weight.


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I love how even though this is a cartoon they are still wearing underwear for modesty
 
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but can I add something to the list?

When in missionary position, please try to support your body weight with your hands, legs and knees. It’s extremely unpleasant and painful for a woman when you crush her ribs, pelvis and spine with your body weight. It’s physical abuse when you repeat the same behavior despite being told how much it hurts.

Different ladies may have different preferences, but unless pain play is previously arranged please refrain from hurting providers.

Please have a look at the different variations of this position below. None of the graphics include the male or top crushing the woman with their body weight.


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Not sure how any of these can be true with clothes on :ROFLMAO:

Anyway, good points!
 
Not sure how any of these can be true with clothes on :ROFLMAO:

Anyway, good points!

Well, there a pants that you can open in front where it matters and for the slip ... I'm sure you can figure out the solution :cool:
 
I am desperately looking for some escort who can do Oystered Missionary :)
 
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I thought that was against your religion?

See everyone, that's called being vigilant. Though it actually worries me to notice someone actually reads my ramblings.

Anyway, that was on my time as a missionary. I stopped the practise when I became a priest. Which is kind of sad, I was really good at it.
 
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Other things to add:
1. Have the money ready preferably in easy to quickly count denominations. If the date is going to cost $1000. I try and get $100 bills, not 20s.
2. Avoid cologne, wash yourself throughly instead. Make sure the dead skin, grease, sweat is scrubbed clean from your body. The girl will be disgusted if you stink.
2a. Make sure your finger nails are cut and filed down. I once accidentally scratched a girl on her arm because my finger nail edge was a bit sharp; could have been worse.
2b Dental hygiene is a must. If your mouth stinks, its not good for kissing. Floss, brush, gargle, and see a good dentist regularly.
3. Dress decently. I find that if I dress and groom myself well, my "date" appreciates it. More than a few are delighted and quickly pull down my pants to give me a BBBJ.
4. A bit of foreplay would be good. It will help you to assess the level of eagerness and competence and range of the sex worker. And, well, they are still women. It helps.
5. Be courteous and professional. Sending them dick photos and explicit texts at the start before you even meet her is just silly. Treat the girl decently and with respect.
6. Bring your own condoms. Find a condom that you like. I prefer the Okamoto Crown because it is thin, and soft and fits right. Other condoms are not so good.
7. Make you have an account with good apps like Line, Wechat.
8. If the girl likes you, don't screw it. Don't compare her to other girls. Don't make fun of her body shape or size. Don't take advantage if she becomes your friend. Respect her boundaries.
9. Bottom line is - try and be prepared as much as possible so you can enjoy the moment with your paid date. Things like getting the money ready, getting yourself clean, wearing decent attire, basic grooming should be done a few hours prior to the meetup.
 
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I am desperately looking for some escort who can do Oystered Missionary :)
I am sure there must a ballerina or (gymnastic) dancer working in one of the clubs (There is at least one I am aware of). But even though she might be physically able to perform the oystered missionary doesn’t mean that she is into it.
 
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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but when booking a love hotel do you book for 1 adult or both? Some sites just make you put down your hotel room no. and the girl comes to it, and it's more discreet that way. That's why I'm asking.
 
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but when booking a love hotel do you book for 1 adult or both? Some sites just make you put down your hotel room no. and the girl comes to it, and it's more discreet that way. That's why I'm asking.
It’s not a stupid question.

The assumption is that there will be two people, and that one more will be joining later. If it’s any other scenario (3p, single occupancy) you should explain. Otherwise, they know what’s what.

(And yes, people book love hotel rooms for solo use more often than you think.)
 
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Ah, so book for just 1? What if it's a really popular spot like Hotel Atlas (Shinjuku), still good to book 1 right?
Atlas? Popular? Color me shocked, but I don't think so. 😄

Yes, 1, it's fine.
 
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Atlas? Popular? Color me shocked, but I don't think so. 😄

Yes, 1, it's fine.
Yeah that place is old and overpriced, they usually have rooms available when nearby hotels fill up..
 
Comments to add to the excellent original post:

-rather don’t invite girls to your personal place at all if you can help it. Only do so if hotels just don’t work out for you at all.
For the girl it’s an uncomfortable environment (hygiene issues, hidden camera dangers) and for you it’s a vulnerable decision (theft, giving your location to strangers).

-rather than not offering alcohol, I’d say offer a girl a drink from a wide selection with both alcohol and non alcohol products. If you stay in a luxury hotel, crack that overpriced mini bar open. If you are in a love hotel, let her pick from the vending machine fridge or the room service. If you meet in public, head to the convenience store together and offer to buy any drink she wants. If in a room with no drink options, buy some things at the conbini and let her pick, or inquire what you can buy for her beforehand. This all is by no means required, but it will make you score gentleman points, so it’s just an advice if you want to make a good impression if you are new to this.

- give her the financial gift as soon as you get into the private room together. Do not try to hand money over on the street, or in a (love) hotel lobby or elevator. But do so before starting the play.
This is a bit tricky with social time dates. If it’s only social time it is necessary, just be as discreet as possible. If it’s a dinner + private or something like that, it might put girls at ease to give it discreetly sooner, but I can understand waiting until you are in private. This is a bit difficult.
If it’s a girls who is not well known, she could also run away if you hand it over in public.

-Lots of questions and “chat sessions” can be a problem, but so can too short messages be. Please no one sentence “hi, can we meet?” But a clear cut explanation of what you are looking for (location, availability and Amount of time) and who you are. That’s what the contact Forms on websites are for, even if there are other messaging options, it would be wise to follow the template guidelines. If you are worried a woman will reject you based on age or ethnicity, just think about it like this: better to get rejected early than to meet with someone who does not want to serve you and both be met with unpleasantness later on.

Hope this is helpful.
 
-she could also run away
I want to be as nice as possible but yeah this is a real fear of mine. Moreso the feeling of being promised something so great and then having that taken from me, especially since I've been patiently working, saving for this one trip. I am very curious about how I'll be treated though. I've been reading TAG for many months and the way foreigners are treated are still really a mixed bag. Also in some reviews she doesn't seem to initiate a 2nd round even when there's plenty of time left. My Japanese is almost nonexistent so I have to think of a polite but fun way to go about that.
 
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