Stateside service?

User#8628 said:
What is the women's reasoning behind it? Less competition?

I know that guys who actually have bad intentions like girls to go back on the street with no ways to vertify if a guy is reliable or to get helps
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When I said "a vocal group on USASG who were crowing about SESTA passing and proposing using it as an opportunity to "starve" providers out and re-set the market" I was talking about punters thinking they could reset the market.

Not providers.
 
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Sudsy said:
When I said "a vocal group on USASG who were crowing about SESTA passing and proposing using it as an opportunity to "starve" providers out and re-set the market" I was talking about punters thinking they could reset the market.

Not providers.
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Sorry, i misread it.
Doesn't surprise me, this law was made by punters with those intentions.
Why do they even bother offering girls money initially though, they could probably get away with rape.
 
User#8628 said:
Is backpage comming back?
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Unlikely. It looks like the CEO just pled guilty to a number of charges. But honestly (for US hobbying anyway) I didn't really see Backpage or CL to be a very trustworthy place to find a provider anyway.
 
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meiji said:
Unlikely. It looks like the CEO just pled guilty to a number of charges. But honestly (for US hobbying anyway) I didn't really see Backpage or CL to be a very trustworthy place to find a provider anyway.
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None of those charges was trafficing right?
 
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meiji said:
Except they are just moving offshore by and large.



What's your source for that? Most VoIP services that aren't encrypted point to point surely listen in on your calls somehow and I'm sure they have terms of service that can suspend your account for doing something illegal, but I'd like to know where you see that MS is saying they might shut you off for consensual conversation.
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Actually, it is much worse than that. I understand that living in the U.S., a little Stockholm Syndrome can kick in that tells you that things are not so bad after all, and that it can't get much worse. It's part of coping. However, things have just started to get worse. It already spreading to benign personals, and to porn. As a comprehensive source, I offer you this.
 
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User#8628 said:
None of those charges was trafficing right?
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They were, actually.

Babaram said:
I understand that living in the U.S., a little Stockholm Syndrome can kick in that tells you that things are not so bad after all,
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I'm just not going to bother discussing this with you if you refuse to actually read what I write. Thanks.
 
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meiji said:
Except they are just moving offshore by and large .
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Moving the server won't do you any good if you are a U.S. citizen or resident alien. You are a U.S. citizen, I take it. You should read this:

a) In general.—Whoever, using a facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, owns, manages, or operates an interactive computer service (as such term is defined in defined in section 230(f) the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 230(f))), or conspires or attempts to do so, with the intent to promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both.

“(b) Aggravated violation.—Whoever, using a facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, owns, manages, or operates an interactive computer service (as such term is defined in defined in section 230(f) the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 230(f))), or conspires or attempts to do so, with the intent to promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person and— (1) promotes or facilitates the prostitution of 5 or more persons; or (2) acts in reckless disregard of the fact that such conduct contributed to sex trafficking, in violation of 1591(a)

Let this sink in. The way I read it, we could already "promote or facilitate the prostitution" and "operate an interactive computer service" simply by posting an escort review. 10 years. A few more reviews, 25 years.

Thankfully, there is a clause that should protect TAG:

"(e) Affirmative Defense.—It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (a), or subsection (b)(1) where the defendant proves, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the promotion or facilitation of prostitution is legal in the jurisdiction where the promotion or facilitation was targeted.”

But wait a minute --- is the promotion or facilitation of prostitution legal in Japan? Not really. Prostitution is just much narrower (in the true sense of the word) defined
 
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meiji said:
I'm just not going to bother discussing this with you if you refuse to actually read what I write. Thanks.
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I carefully read every word you write, but apparently, you did not follow the link to the source you requested. In pertinent part:

"Similarly, in late March, Microsoft abruptly announced a drastic change to its policies and enforcement of those policies that effectively scoured its many services, including Skype and its cloud storage products, of any adult content. This drew complaints from Skype users, who feared that Microsoft’s auto-detection filters would ban any Skype user who happened to be involved in consensual sexual activity using the platform."

I strongly recommend reading the VOX article.
 
User#8628 said:
Is backpage comming back?
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Well, there already is a backpage.ly advertising female companions. .ly stands for domains from Libya, I kid you not. The registrant's address looks a bit sketchy:

OneBackpage, LLC
Mike Stevens
901 Earls Ave
Quangpong
N/A
TJ
Zip/Postal code: 0199
Phone: 17604448674

There also is a Onebackpage.com It its privacy protected and does not seem to be related at first glance, but could be. Probably is.

Both are behind Cloudflare, which cloaks the location of the actual server to the cursory investigator. Backpage.ly and onebackpage.com have been seen on a server in Denver before they went behind Cloudflare. Before Onebackpage.com was privacy protected, it was seen registered to a likewise sketchy address at Aldridge Road, Birmingham, Dubai . Sure.

All of the above available on-line, nothing secret. IMHO, whoever operates these sites is playing with fire.
 
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Yes, it’s up. Just checked the site for Hong Kong-based independent providers.
 
List of backpage-related domains, seized by the U.S. government

backpage.com
backpage.ca
cracker.com
backpage.mx
backpage.net
backpage.pt
backpage.us
backpage.lt
backpage.pl
backpage.cz
backpage.co.uk
backpage.net
backpage.pt
backpage.us
backpage.lt
backpage.pl
backpage.cz
backpage.co.uk
backpage.com.au
backpage.it
backpage.gr
backpage.si
backpage-insider.com
bestofbackpage.com
bigcity.com
 
What I don't understand is, in America, even mass shootings aren't seen as a reason to ban the most violent assault weapons -- millions of people will quietly accept tragic deaths in the name of "liberty," and gun control never gets anywhere even when you point out its direct impact on needless death and suffering. Yet when it comes to sex, a 0.0001% incidence of child trafficking in prostitution (already prosecuted with existing laws) is reason enough for Americans to pass a sweeping bill that tramples on individual liberty -- and no one will object.
 
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proconsul said:
What I don't understand is, in America, even mass shootings aren't seen as a reason to ban the most violent assault weapons -- millions of people will quietly accept tragic deaths in the name of "liberty," and gun control never gets anywhere even when you point out its direct impact on needless death and suffering. Yet when it comes to sex, a 0.0001% incidence of child trafficking in prostitution (already prosecuted with existing laws) is reason enough for Americans to pass a sweeping bill that tramples on individual liberty -- and no one will object.
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American men get touchy about their phallic symbols, I mean, their guns, and they get touchy about women having any source of power and protection, too.
 
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proconsul said:
What I don't understand is, in America, even mass shootings aren't seen as a reason to ban the most violent assault weapons -- millions of people will quietly accept tragic deaths in the name of "liberty," and gun control never gets anywhere even when you point out its direct impact on needless death and suffering. Yet when it comes to sex, a 0.0001% incidence of child trafficking in prostitution (already prosecuted with existing laws) is reason enough for Americans to pass a sweeping bill that tramples on individual liberty -- and no one will object.
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Well, guns have very aggressive and efficient lobbyists. The freedom of the Internet OTOH was sold out by Facebook and Google, who supported the law
 
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Supposedly the owner of ECCIE took FOSTA/SESTA as a sign that it was time to retire with no replacement, at least according to this tweet:

 
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