Success with Happymail or wakuwaku mail services?

[Haddict]

Just recently registered for both wakuwaku mail and happymail. Seems to be mostly WGs asking for 2man on avg. Not sure if they are scammers of if for real.

Has anyone had any success with any of the jp mail services? Any tips for either snaring a civilian or legit WG?

 

[meiji]

I've signed up for happymail because I was curious. My Japanese isn't good enough yet to try to hook up, I don't think.

Don't sign up for other pages like this that aren't well known. I google searched for them and signed up for one, and now I get TONS of spam from them. They want people to pay for points and have a bunch of sakura to draw you in. Stick with Happymail and the like.

 

[Haddict]

Thx for the tip. I've stuck with happymail and had a few replies but all appear to be WGs asking 2man. Still, tough to tell if they are real or if its a scam of some kind...

 

[nibor]

I have met one girl off Happy Mail in Shibuya about one year ago. Although I think that most of these girls offering there (especially in the "Ima Sugu" section) are freelancers that do this often on a daily basis. If you look through the posts for a few days you will notice, that a large amount of posts appear very frequently. Occasionally there might be some "students" that want some cash on the side. But as with all things "adult" related in Japan, being a foreigner doesn't make things easier. I would say that only using English to write to girls on Happy Mail wouldn't give you much of a success rate.

The best strategy is to say hello in Japanese, ask if she's available and what her conditions are (条件は何でしょうか, or something similar). If you figured out a place to meet, you could tell her that she can recognize you by your "blond hair", or something indicating that you're probably not Japanese (if she hadn't noticed until then). At that point it's mostly too late for her to dare to say no. Still, you'll experience alot of "dame" in your attempts I suppose.

The only girl I met off Happy Mail was "acquired" using above described strategy. Her profile said she is 19. She could have been 19 from her looks - but I wasn't too sure.
Anyhow, went to a hotel and had somewhat of a not so pleasing session - she seemed to be in a rush and didn't quite live up to what I was expecting.
Ever since that experience I told myself that I'd only use it again to find some two-girl action, which sometimes is offered.

Still, a few months later, on a business trip in Hokkaido I thought of trying it there again and arranged for a girl to come to my hotel. When she arrived she phoned me (I was firstly hesitating to give my number, but I understood that she might need it in case she couldn't find me), and must have discovered after a few sentences that I'm not Japanese and hung up. Just like that. A bit of a disappointment. But then, on Hokkaido there are not that many offers on Happy Mail, so she probably thought "it's not worth it, I'll find a Japanese around the corner".

I think I would use it again someday if I wanted to have some action with a complete amateurish stranger.

Concerning scams - I think the only scams are the people working on keeping you message them (so you spend points you paid for). So try to keep the message exchange as short as possible - which is usually done by the "working" real girls anyways.

Cheers

PS: I believe Wakuwaku mail is genuine as well, but Happy Mail seems to suffice for me.
As mentioned earlier, please don't register with any other similar service you find on the Japanese internet. It was a smart move of mine to use a "one-time" email address for the other sites due to spam-mails.

 

[Zaphod222]

The best strategy is to say hello in Japanese, ask if she's available and what her conditions are (条件は何でしょうか, or something similar). If you figured out a place to meet, you could tell her that she can recognize you by your "blond hair", or something indicating that you're probably not Japanese (if she hadn't noticed until then). At that point it's mostly too late for her to dare to say no. Still, you'll experience alot of "dame" in your attempts I suppose.

You suppose wrong, and your advice is bad, I think. You are a gaijin, and there is nothing you can do about it. And you are not going to trap a girl who doesn´t like gaijin into fekking you out of giri at the last moment.

When I write to keijinban boards, I say right up front that I am xxx-jin (stating my nationality), and add that I do speak Japanese. With that out of the way, you only get responses from girls who are OK with that.

I really really do not agree with this idea of concealing who you are and then trying to slip that in at the last moment. I think the concept is pathetic.

 

[Roshar]

Yup, 100% are WGs with the occasional housewife or student who wants to make some quick cash. Went the spray and pray route, with decent enough Japanese that they didn't realize I was a foreigner (although I'm Asian so even if we meet it doesnt really change much besides the language barrier), and out of whatever the number of people I've messaged and gotten responses from, 100% ask for 20K, with the rare 25K or 40K. The 40Ks will either be because they promise you a month (don't believe them) or they promise some other priviledge like a 3P on a "future date." This is every single response, to someone they think is Japanese and in Japanese, so its definitely universal. Even the ones with titles that claim theres no conditions or money required, they still ask for it after you've already invested a few messages in.

Don't waste your time unless you want to have expensive freelancer that has neither the work ethics of a real WG nor her skills. I consider it my lost investment as money spent on teaching a me a life lesson on greed.

 

[Zaphod222]

My long experience with girls from Japanese message boards has been consistently good; sometimes phantastically good.
But I guess it depends on your skill of getting a feeling for the person on the other end of the exchange, as well as on your personal taste, and on pure luck.

 

[Roshar]

Hm, it really depends. At the end of the day, if you want to, you WILL be able to meet up and give it to whomever you're conversing with. The issue that differs is really just the quality and what you're really looking for. If you're not Asian or cannot speak some basic japanese, then you're going to be pretty hard pressed to find people, even if you're willing to accept whatever they charge. In addition to that, youll see a lot of the posts with the girl's 3 sizes or even a picture of a seemingly beautiful and slim lady... don't believe in it. Photos, if you are good with them, you can tell whether or not they are doctored. The 3 sizes however, is an issue that I've found to be consistently lied about. So is the description of body size that they give. Just assume that "yaya slender" and "futsu" mean plump and up, because that's apparently what they've taken it to mean.

If you're looking for a one time thing where an amateur or freelancer who won't call you back unless you pay each time, more or less like a private escort, then you're in the right place. But if you're looking for a long-term mutual thing with a civilian girl, then I'm afraid you're with me and in the wrong boat. Zaphod of course is right in his answer, because he's found what he's looking for. A girl whom he is willing to pay for every visit. Just assume that system for every girl that posts because the whole thing about "long term" and "regular sehure" is a giant money grubbing lie. And sadly, that's what every post is advertising.

 

[Zaphod222]

Hm, it really depends. At the end of the day, if you want to, you WILL be able to meet up and give it to whomever you're conversing with. The issue that differs is really just the quality and what you're really looking for. If you're not Asian or cannot speak some basic japanese, then you're going to be pretty hard pressed to find people, even if you're willing to accept whatever they charge.

I am not Asian (and unlike you I am up front about that), and I have only had great experiences. I do speak Japanese though, you are correct that that makes a difference.

In addition to that, youll see a lot of the posts with the girl's 3 sizes or even a picture of a seemingly beautiful and slim lady... don't believe in it.

Of course not. If you go to sites with photos, you are already deep in scam territory. Legit candidates don´t post photos. I guess we are talking about completely different things.

The 3 sizes however, is an issue that I've found to be consistently lied about.

Me, never! My current sefure was actually concerned that her breast are too small to satisfy a gaijin. So cute!

So is the description of body size that they give. Just assume that "yaya slender" and "futsu" mean plump and up, because that's apparently what they've taken it to mean.

Clearly, you have been talking to scammers. Maybe par for the course if you browse around fake photo sites. But probably fair enough, since you are misrepresenting yourself too.

If you're looking for a one time thing where an amateur or freelancer who won't call you back unless you pay each time, more or less like a private escort, then you're in the right place. But if you're looking for a long-term mutual thing with a civilian girl, then I'm afraid you're with me and in the wrong boat. Zaphod of course is right in his answer, because he's found what he's looking for. A girl whom he is willing to pay for every visit.

Nope. As I mentioned before, with previous keijiban friends the price has always come down and the relationship expanded a bit.
Clearly, you have different experiences, and clearly that is largely of your own doing.

Just assume that system for every girl that posts because the whole thing about "long term" and "regular sehure" is a giant money grubbing lie. And sadly, that's what every post is advertising.

Completely the opposite of my experiences. But well, probably correct for your photo sites.

 

[Roshar]

I am not Asian (and unlike you I am up front about that), and I have only had great experiences. I do speak Japanese though, you are correct that that makes a difference.

Of course not. If you go to sites with photos, you are already deep in scam territory. Legit candidates don´t post photos. I guess we are talking about completely different things.

Me, never! My current sefure was actually concerned that her breast are too small to satisfy a gaijin. So cute!

Clearly, you have been talking to scammers. Maybe par for the course if you browse around fake photo sites. But probably fair enough, since you are misrepresenting yourself too.

Nope. As I mentioned before, with previous keijiban friends the price has always come down and the relationship expanded a bit.
Clearly, you have different experiences, and clearly that is largely of your own doing.

Completely the opposite of my experiences. But well, probably correct for your photo sites.

Was gonna cut up the quotes to make responding easier and more concise but figure its not worth the effort. So I'll just make this a block of text:

1. I am Asian. I was referring to the OP.
2. Happymail has photos, how do you not know that if you've been using it?
3. I don't misrepresent myself. Once again, was referring the OP in that issue. I accurately depict who I am and what exactly it is I'm looking for.
4. Who knows, maybe it is of my own doing. But more so probably due to a lack of intuition or luck in sorting through the myraid of posts rather than the slander you're hurling
5. Can you be any more condescending? "But well, probably correct for your photo sites." Really? Not only is that statement incorrect as I am using the same exact site, but the tone in it is just galling. Perhaps I've insulted you in some way so far? I've been nothing but keen to repeatedly express that you've obviously found results within your efforts and that the system thus evidently varies from person to person. But I guess you find any disagreement with you, even disagreement with acknowledgement and respect (now gone) to be too much disagreement.

 

[Zaphod222]

1. I am Asian. I was referring to the OP.
2. Happymail has photos, how do you not know that if you've been using it?
3. I don't misrepresent myself. Once again, was referring the OP in that issue. I accurately depict who I am and what exactly it is I'm looking for.
4. Who knows, maybe it is of my own doing. But more so probably due to a lack of intuition or luck in sorting through the myraid of posts rather than the slander you're hurling
5. Can you be any more condescending?

1. Yes, so what.
2. I am not using "Happymail".
3. You said (quote): "Went the spray and pray route, with decent enough Japanese that they didn't realize I was a foreigner"
4. Yes, your doing. And no slander.
5. I not condescending. You chose your actions, you get the results.

 

[Roshar]

1. Yes, so what.
2. I am not using "Happymail".
3. You said (quote): "Went the spray and pray route, with decent enough Japanese that they didn't realize I was a foreigner"
4. Yes, your doing. And no slander.
5. I not condescending. You chose your actions, you get the results.

Last response even though the brain obviously knows, theres no point to this, seeing the conversation between you and solong.

1. Directed towards your inferring insult to deception(quote): (and unlike you I am upfront about that)
2. Then you're in the wrong thread. And if you're not here to discuss the OP's direct concerns, or offer alternative solutions or methods of success, then I don't see why you're posting here. If you want to just brag about what you have but not give him the same method or ability to find something similar, well then, we obviously know why that's an asinine thing to do.
3. I say foreigner, but I assure you that they all are 100% aware of the occupation and status of who i am, but will not reveal here. In this case, the word foreigner was used more to elaborate a difference in culture, rather than ethnicity or identity. I introduced myself with accurate information and purpose of residence.
4+5. You either obviously don't know you're being condescending because you think that way so often that its natural, or you have no clue what it means. When you offer responses in a similar vein as "you deserved that" or "of course you'd get that," whilst also stating that you use some kind of grand proper method is condescension. You look down on what, of course may or may not be other substandard courses of action committed by unknowing people, and spout your successes from some sort of enlightened high ground. That, is condescension.

Now, I'd rather not waste more time on this with you, because I have better things to do than repeat a dialogue similar to you and Solong. I will however add that, perhaps you'd want to change your tone. Relax a little, not everything is an attack. And if I'm wrong in thinking that that's how you're perceiving things, I'm sure people have told you that same line enough that you should start to reflect on your responses. Perhaps they sound calm and unbiased in your own mind, but you can see from others its evidently not. Whether or not you take that to heed, I don't care. I'm not you. I don't have to live with you. And if I really am annoyed by you that much, if you don't leave, I can always find another site. However the rest of the people in the forum seem genuinely kind, curious, and just want to find a place to discuss something they have in common. So that's who I feel bad for. Peace.

 

[Zaphod222]

1. Directed towards your inferring insult to deception(quote): (and unlike you I am upfront about that)

You said (quote): "Went the spray and pray route, with decent enough Japanese that they didn't realize I was a foreigner". Nuff said.

2. Then you're in the wrong thread.

Point taken. I´ll leave you to your Happy Mail scams.