Sugar Daddy Questions

[Frenchy]

Good for you on your success, but the bit I made bold concerns me slightly. If you only mean that you plan to post the tale of your "pleasant evening" in more detail, no problem. But if you mean a review in the sense of escort reviews where you identify the SB, give the information needed to contact her, evaluate her is some way etc, I strongly suggest that you first get her permission to do so. It is definitely very uncommon and widely regarded as a terrible betrayal for SDs to review an SB in the manner that mongers review escorts without the SB's prior permission.

-Ww

What if she's both?

 

[Wwanderer]

What if she's both?

My advice, ask her before proceeding. For one reason, many escorts who sugar prefer not to make that information known to potential escorting customers. But some don't mind or even encourage it.

-Ww

 

[Frenchy]

My advice, ask her before proceeding. For one reason, many escorts who sugar prefer not to make that information to potential escorting customers. But some don't mind or even encourage it.

-Ww

Well she contacted me first and her profile is available both on SA and publicly so it would be hypocritical to separate the two.

If conditions vary from one distribution channel to the next so be it (same with TAG listed conditions and deai cafe conditions I guess ) what you are just trying to say here is that it's OK to post a review of a provider without asking her permission only if she is not a SB too? Sorry but it doesnt make much sense... in both cases its still P4P.
What I would certainly not do however is to review someone who is not a provider at all (although come to think of it when NotEvenDave reviewed a date with his wife it was by far the funniest review here)

 

[Wwanderer]

Well she contacted me first and her profile is available both on SA and publicly so it would be hypocritical to separate the two.

If conditions vary from one distribution channel to the next so be it (same with TAG listed conditions and deai cafe conditions I guess ) what you are just trying to say here is that it's OK to post a review of a provider without asking her permission only if she is not a SB too? Sorry but it doesnt make much sense... in both cases its still P4P.
What I would certainly not do however is to review someone who is not a provider at all (although come to think of it when NotEvenDave reviewed a date with his wife it was by far the funniest review here)

Well, it is your call obviously, but ime she (like many/most SBs) may not regard it as p4p or at least think of it as very different from escort-style p4p, and thus *may* well be quite upset with you if you post an escort style review. In principle it could even get her banned from SA which denies that the arrangements it facilitates are "still p4p".

However, you don't seem to mind making people unhappy with you and have even hinted that you enjoy it sometimes. So maybe her possible displeasure isn't a concern for you. I dunno. Your call, your karma. I'm just sayin'...

-Ww

 

[Frenchy]

Well, it is your call obviously, but ime she (like many/most SBs) may not regard it as p4p or at least think of it as very different from escort-style p4p, and thus *may* well be quite upset with you if you post an escort style review. In principle it could even get her banned from SA which denies that the arrangements it facilitates are "still p4p".

However, you don't seem to mind making people unhappy with you and have even hinted that you enjoy it sometimes. So maybe her possible displeasure isn't a concern for you. I dunno. Your call, your karma. I'm just sayin'...

-Ww

I will make a very nice recommendation, but as usual here you seem to want to set the rules of what's acceptable or not (although you're neither a mod nor the owner) and others may have different opinions (like Namae above, and yes my answer to him was referring to your own behavior which I find equally displeasant, and borderline dishonest)

 

[Wwanderer]

I will make a very nice recommendation, but as usual here you seem to wànt to set the rules of what's acceptable or not (although you're neither a mod nor the owner) and others may have different opinions (like Namae above, and yes my answer to him was referring to your own behavior which I find equally displeasant, and borderline dishonest)

Hopefully she will be pleased.

If my posts bother you, I suggest the ignore function, btw.

-Ww

 

[User#8628]

Hopefully she will be pleased.

If my posts bother you, I suggest the ignore function, btw.

-Ww

The ignore function is truely a great thing!

 

[Frenchy]

Hopefully she will be pleased.

If my posts bother you, I suggest the ignore function, btw.

-Ww

No, you need someone to counter-balance your opinions, which are just that (opinions)

 

[Wwanderer]

No, you need someone to counter-balance your opinions, which are just that (opinions)

I guess we all need a calling.

-Ww

 

[Frenchy]

I guess we all need a calling.

-Ww

Yep, yin and yang
(Having said that you are also free of course to ignore mine, or at least to not bother with giving me unsolicited advice)

 

[MikeH]

(although come to think of it when NotEvenDave reviewed a date with his wife it was by far the funniest review here)

Well, it bloody well should have been as it is quite probably, when all is counted and paid, the most expensive date ever revealed in TAG.

 

[Frenchy]

Well, it bloody well should have been as it is quite probably, when all is counted and paid, the most expensive date ever revealed in TAG.

No, i beat him on that, 100% sure !(but I didnt post a review... maybe I will, it could be cathartic)

 

[Frenchy]

Damn, seriously SA is wonderful. Should have tried it much earlier. I dont have any stock in them (but wish I had), no friend working there, no discount or anything for writing this, no conflict of interest whatsoever. It's a great app and really worth the subscription. Japan is now an increasingly popular touristic destination which also means growing number of ladies coming to our shores, who are willing to work a bit to pay for the travel costs. I'm amazed , and it takes a lot to amaze me...

 

[Snuggles]

Update:
One SB asked me if she could meet me for the first time with her friend. That sounded dicey, so I said no.

Another advertised that she had trained in martial arts and knew the weak points of men. She is pretty, but scares me at the same time.

Next!

Many are ok with my price point level:
30-40,000¥/ month. Meet once or twice a month.
Free first time meet up.

 

[User#8628]

One SB asked me if she could meet me for the first time with her friend. That sounded dicey, so I said no

No harm in saying "no" of course but please note that women have a lot more to lose than men.
Indeed, we don't all have black belts in matrial arts and we could easily be killed.

As long as the initial meeting place is in a cafe or restaurant though, i don't see any danger in either bringing or not bringing a friend.

 

[wraithfive]

One SB asked me if she could meet me for the first time with her friend. That sounded dicey, so I said no.

I think you missed an opportunity here. As @User#8628 said it could simply be so she felt safe meeting a stranger for the first time but there are also some girls that prefer to sugar date in pairs. Could have been a long term 3p situation there

 

[Wwanderer]

I think you missed an opportunity here. As @User#8628 said it could simply be so she felt safe meeting a stranger for the first time but there are also some girls that prefer to sugar date in pairs. Could have been a long term 3p situation there

I very occasionally sugar date a pair of coeds (actually they just graduated, so maybe I won't be seeing them in the future) who advertised together on SA and would only go on sugar dates together. (Between their classes and their part time jobs, scheduling was a serious challenge and part of the reason for the "very occasionally" part.) Unfortunately they do not play with each other, at least not around me, but just didn't feel comfortable or safe or something going out with a "stranger from the internet" by themselves.

Fwiiw, I have had SBs bring along a friend to a first meeting a handful of times, and it was never any problem. In all cases but one, the friend disappeared as soon as they had a look at and quick conversation with harmless me. So, I agree with @wraithfive (yet again) that you probably missed an opportunity on that one, @Snuggles.

-Ww

 

[meiji]

Reviewing SBs and giving personally identifiable info of the girls is not a good idea, and would probably be considered doxxing here. That's not just rude, but could result in possible board sanctions. Outing a provider here as a particular SB if her SB handle/pictures don't make it obvious that it's her would probably also be considered doxxing.

Just because someone, provider or hobbyist, posts here doesn't make their life an open book and fair game for posting here. Conversely, I would urge ANYONE posting online for any reason to be extremely cautious with what information about yourself you tell people or post online. Due to all the fake profiles I run into on Seeking Arrangment, I did an image search on an SA girl's pictures and found her personal Twitter feed -- she used the same profile pic in both places. Be safe with your personal data.

 

[Wwanderer]

Outing a provider here as a particular SB if her SB handle/pictures don't make it obvious that it's her would probably also be considered doxxing.

The term "doxxing" isn't familiar to me, but I definitely agree that an escort should be able to sugar without having it connected to her escorting persona if she wishes.

I know more than one escort who sugars but sees it as a *very* different and more personal activity than her work as an escort. Others don't see it as a major distinction and have no problem with the connections being made. That's why I suggested to @Frenchy that he first check with the SB/escort in question before posting a review.

-Ww

 

[Frenchy]

The term "doxxing" isn't familiar to me, but I definitely agree that an escort should be able to sugar without having it connected to her escorting persona if she wishes.

I know more than one escort who sugars but sees it as a *very* different and more personal activity than her work as an escort. Others don't see it as a major distinction and have no problem with the connections being made. That's why I suggested to @Frenchy that he first check with the SB/escort in question before posting a review.

-Ww

... which I did by the way
But on your side are all the TAG escorts you mentioned as your SBs (at much better conditions and good for you) ok with that?

 

[meiji]

Doxxing means to put someone's personal information into public domain without their permission. Several examples:

- Posting a Twitter handle's home address or phone number
- Posting a face picture of someone that's never posted their face before.
- Posting where someone works.
etc.

 

[Wwanderer]

But on your side are all the TAG escorts you mentioned as your SBs (at much better conditions and good for you) ok with that?

Yes, I checked and double checked with all of them in advance of those postings and made sure that they knew that I was saying that I saw them on a sugar basis. Tbh, it would never have occurred to me to do anything else.

More generally, I think one's perspective on this issue depends a bit as whether one sees sugaring as "just another" way of doing p4p or whether one sees it as something more personal and private than conventional p4p modes. That said, it should depend on the feelings of the person whose sugaring is being revealed (and whose privacy is thus being potentially violated) and not those of the person doing the revealing.

-Ww

 

[Wwanderer]

Doxxing means to put someone's personal information into public domain without their permission. Several examples:

- Posting a Twitter handle's home address or phone number
- Posting a face picture of someone that's never posted their face before.
- Posting where someone works.
etc.

Thanks. I am SHOCKED that I did not know such an obviously useful internet word. Maybe I once knew it and forgot it!

-Ww

 

[Frenchy]

Yes, I checked and double checked with all of them in advance of those postings and made sure that they knew that I was saying that I saw them on a sugar basis. Tbh, it would never have occurred to me to do anything else.

More generally, I think one's perspective on this issue depends a bit as whether one sees sugaring as "just another" way of doing p4p or whether one sees it as something more personal and private than conventional p4p modes. That said, it should depend on the feelings of the person whose sugaring is being revealed (and whose privacy is thus being potentially violated) and not those of the person doing the revealing.

-Ww

Hmmm yes, it's a fine line though.
I see sugaring as another form of P4P, as I see marriage as a form of P4notP.
I would think the opposite action is more reprehensible though ("doxxing" a SA member as escort on SA)

 

[MikeH]

Thanks. I am SHOCKED that I did not know such an obviously useful internet word. Maybe I once knew it and forgot it!

Didn't know it either and it seems to be a word for the younger folk; first appeared around 2010. Guessing we were both senile enough not to learn it but still able to forgot it by that time!