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Sugardaddy.jp : my experience

Doing a bit of investigation on japanese sites seems to indicate that sugardaddy.jp has a more favorable female:male ratio than most deai sites. 7:3 reportedly.
 
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Doing a bit of investigation on japanese sites seems to indicate that sugardaddy.jp has a more favorable female:male ratio than most deai sites. 7:3 reportedly.

I’ve heard that figure too. I guess there’s no way to prove it, but I never felt like there was a dearth of options (which maybe I did think about SA in Tokyo). A few girls I met actually complained that there weren’t enough men, but I don’t know if that’s just because they read the statistic or because they really felt that way.

I’d like to know what percentage of men and women are active users, and what percentage of men are paying members...
 
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I recently used this site to score some sugar dates during a business trip to Tokyo, and wanted to share my experience.

First of all, the original review by Browcoco remains pretty much valid in all respects. There are a TON of Japanese girls on this site, and most of them appear to be real as opposed to the obvious "sakura" that populate some other sites. Not all of them are willing to have sex with punters: some are explicit about this in their profiles, while some say that they ignore men who demand sex on the first date. There are quite a few girls who are apparently using the site to try to find a husband... whatever.

As per the original review, the site's search function totally sucks. Probably the only good thing about it is that it ranks results by how recently the person signed in, which weeds out people who haven't been actively using the site in a while. However, you can't filter by any attributes other than location (prefecture/"kaigai"), age and a few very cryptic "dating styles." The former breakdown is, of course, absolutely stupid, because if you're in Tokyo it makes perfect sense to also look for girls in Chiba, Saitama and Kanagawa, and if you're overseas you'd only want to see girls in the same country (or preferably city) as you. On that latter point, there are quite a few Japanese girls using the site from outside Japan; before I came to Tokyo, I exchanged messages with Japanese girls living in places like NY, LA and SF.

The message board seems to be useful if you are looking for a last-minute date, particularly in central Tokyo. There are always a bunch of posts along the lines of "I'm in Shinjuku now and my date just cancelled! Who's free?" It's like a virtual Kirari Cafe. There are also periodic posts from girls in other cities/areas.

Personal experience

I went online a few times, picked a bunch of girls that looked good from their photos/profile, and sent a "canned" message in Japanese introducing myself. I began by saying that I was a white American guy visiting Tokyo on business and looking for someone to spend time with after hours. I also provided my LINE account name.

Many girls simply ignored the message. A few wrote back asking what I had in mind for compensation/allowance. One went as far as forwarding a link to a Japanese blog post explaining the sugar "market" and the appropriate price levels for girls, and asked where I thought she would fall in that matrix. Note that the site won't allow you to send messages containing certain sexually explicit or prostitution-related language, so you sometimes have to be euphemistic, and some girls apparently get banned from the site for being too direct in their private messages, so best practice (IMO) is to move conversations over to LINE or another messaging platform as soon as possible.

I ended up having "advanced negotiations" with three girls and boning two of them. Here's the quick post-game report.

Girl No. 1: "Y"

22-year-old fashion design student. Her profile featured a bikini body shot (no face) showing off a slim waist and D-cups, as well as a few private face photos. She connected with me on LINE and asked what I had in mind for compensation. Since she appeared to have a killer body, and I didn't want to offend her, I offered 10k for the first date plus 40k if we went all the way afterwards (which is on the high end for Tokyo sugar dates if you believe the blog posts on the subject). She said that was cool, and let me see her face photos, which were cute but somehow didn't quite match her body: her face was very round, with big lips and curly hair.

We met up for a drink at my hotel after I got back from a business dinner. She was wearing a very "girl next door" outfit consisting of a denim jacket and long cotton skirt. Based on our conversation, she didn't have much experience traveling overseas, didn't speak English and didn't seem to have much experience interacting with foreigners, so there was a bit of a curve in finding common points of experience among us. Nonetheless, after a cocktail and some chit-chat, she agreed to go up to my room.

Clothes came off quite quickly, and this girl's body was pristine - exactly as advertised on the site. Her pussy was shaved and she was down for DFK, BBBJ, etc. Unfortunately, her pussy was very tight, and it took a lot of foreplay (plus some massaging of the area with lotion) just to open it up enough to enter. Even then, she seemed to be fairly uncomfortable, although she tried her best to put on a porn star show nonetheless. After I popped, we took a quick shower together and she went home.

Overall evaluation: 6/10. She was definitely very hot, but there wasn't a lot of chemistry and that money would have been better spent on a "pro."

Girl No. 2: "H"

21-year-old college student. She replied to my Japanese message by sending me a LINE message in English explaining that she had just come back from study abroad in Australia. Her messages had a bubbly air-headed quality to them, and her LINE history featured a bunch of photos from high school 3-4 years ago, in which she looked like a very innocent Japanese schoolgirl, flashing peace signs on field trips and the like. This all piqued my interest as she reminded me of so many girls I wanted to bang when I was 16-17. We chatted back and forth for a few days before she raised the topic of money; I suggested 10k+30k and she was fine with it.

Unfortunately, as I was arriving in Tokyo, she told me that she had come down with a yeast infection and couldn't meet. I thought about taking her out on a platonic date anyway, but because my time in Tokyo was limited and YOLO, decided to fill her time slot with a girl from [Redacted]. (This turned out to be a pretty awesome experience that I'll post about elsewhere.)

Girl No. 3: "R"

25-year-old singer. She posted a fairly hot-looking body pic to the site (in a form-fitting white dress that revealed ample cleavage and a curvy-but-not-fat body) but didn't post any face pics. Like H, she replied to my message with a LINE message in English and explained that she had lived in the US for a while. We set a date to meet up, without discussing money at all (and I was waiting for that shoe to drop).

I met her at my hotel and we had a drink at a jazz bar. She was wearing a rather classy-looking embroidered black dress, and her face was quite attractive (vaguely reminding me of Koyuki). The venue got her talking about her singing career, and how she had lived in a few cities around the world trying to make it in music. Her English was very good, and she told me that she spoke a couple of European languages as well.

As we finished our drinks she agreed to come up to my room -- still having not broached the topic of payment. When we arrived and settled in, she nervously explained that it was her first time sugaring and that she didn't know what to ask for. I counted out 40k from my wallet, and she smiled and thanked me. I complimented her for being classy about the money, and she said she was grateful that I didn't demand to see her face, because most men on the site wanted to see it up-front and she was reluctant to share it online.

Then she asked me if I wanted to take a shower; I said "Do you?" She thought about it and said "not really," then we disrobed each other and went into it on the bed. From this point forward, she was AMAZING, with very few limits. She had nice D-cups and a shaved pussy, and was open to DFK and BBBJ. I popped once fucking her missionary. After we cleaned up a bit in the shower, we went back to the bed and ended up in an extended 69 session where I was essentially fucking her throat while licking her pussy and ass. I really wanted to blow another load in her mouth but couldn't quite get there, and had just used up the last American condom I had brought with me, so ended up putting her back in missionary and finishing with sumata, cumming all over her tits and her flat stomach.

Overall evaluation: 10/10, will be calling her again next time I'm in town, and might make her a regular if the frequency of my Tokyo trips picks up.

Girl No. 0.5

This is on a different note, but some time before this trip, I talked a really perverted-looking girl on this site into making "private" porn videos for me (undressing, masturbating, etc.) on the condition that I'd pay her for each one and wouldn't share them with others. She actually made a few for me, and was willing to make a lot more as she was very strapped for cash, but I cut myself off from spending too much on this. It was a fun experiment while it lasted.

Final verdict:

Despite this site's flaws, it seems to be a pretty good place to meet Japanese SBs assuming you can read/write Japanese well enough to introduce yourself by message and skim the online profiles.
 
I recently used this site to score some sugar dates during a business trip to Tokyo, and wanted to share my experience.

First of all, the original review by Browcoco remains pretty much valid in all respects. There are a TON of Japanese girls on this site, and most of them appear to be real as opposed to the obvious "sakura" that populate some other sites. Not all of them are willing to have sex with punters: some are explicit about this in their profiles, while some say that they ignore men who demand sex on the first date. There are quite a few girls who are apparently using the site to try to find a husband... whatever.

As per the original review, the site's search function totally sucks. Probably the only good thing about it is that it ranks results by how recently the person signed in, which weeds out people who haven't been actively using the site in a while. However, you can't filter by any attributes other than location (prefecture/"kaigai"), age and a few very cryptic "dating styles." The former breakdown is, of course, absolutely stupid, because if you're in Tokyo it makes perfect sense to also look for girls in Chiba, Saitama and Kanagawa, and if you're overseas you'd only want to see girls in the same country (or preferably city) as you. On that latter point, there are quite a few Japanese girls using the site from outside Japan; before I came to Tokyo, I exchanged messages with Japanese girls living in places like NY, LA and SF.

The message board seems to be useful if you are looking for a last-minute date, particularly in central Tokyo. There are always a bunch of posts along the lines of "I'm in Shinjuku now and my date just cancelled! Who's free?" It's like a virtual Kirari Cafe. There are also periodic posts from girls in other cities/areas.

Personal experience

I went online a few times, picked a bunch of girls that looked good from their photos/profile, and sent a "canned" message in Japanese introducing myself. I began by saying that I was a white American guy visiting Tokyo on business and looking for someone to spend time with after hours. I also provided my LINE account name.

Many girls simply ignored the message. A few wrote back asking what I had in mind for compensation/allowance. One went as far as forwarding a link to a Japanese blog post explaining the sugar "market" and the appropriate price levels for girls, and asked where I thought she would fall in that matrix. Note that the site won't allow you to send messages containing certain sexually explicit or prostitution-related language, so you sometimes have to be euphemistic, and some girls apparently get banned from the site for being too direct in their private messages, so best practice (IMO) is to move conversations over to LINE or another messaging platform as soon as possible.

I ended up having "advanced negotiations" with three girls and boning two of them. Here's the quick post-game report.

Girl No. 1: "Y"

22-year-old fashion design student. Her profile featured a bikini body shot (no face) showing off a slim waist and D-cups, as well as a few private face photos. She connected with me on LINE and asked what I had in mind for compensation. Since she appeared to have a killer body, and I didn't want to offend her, I offered 10k for the first date plus 40k if we went all the way afterwards (which is on the high end for Tokyo sugar dates if you believe the blog posts on the subject). She said that was cool, and let me see her face photos, which were cute but somehow didn't quite match her body: her face was very round, with big lips and curly hair.

We met up for a drink at my hotel after I got back from a business dinner. She was wearing a very "girl next door" outfit consisting of a denim jacket and long cotton skirt. Based on our conversation, she didn't have much experience traveling overseas, didn't speak English and didn't seem to have much experience interacting with foreigners, so there was a bit of a curve in finding common points of experience among us. Nonetheless, after a cocktail and some chit-chat, she agreed to go up to my room.

Clothes came off quite quickly, and this girl's body was pristine - exactly as advertised on the site. Her pussy was shaved and she was down for DFK, BBBJ, etc. Unfortunately, her pussy was very tight, and it took a lot of foreplay (plus some massaging of the area with lotion) just to open it up enough to enter. Even then, she seemed to be fairly uncomfortable, although she tried her best to put on a porn star show nonetheless. After I popped, we took a quick shower together and she went home.

Overall evaluation: 6/10. She was definitely very hot, but there wasn't a lot of chemistry and that money would have been better spent on a "pro."

Girl No. 2: "H"

21-year-old college student. She replied to my Japanese message by sending me a LINE message in English explaining that she had just come back from study abroad in Australia. Her messages had a bubbly air-headed quality to them, and her LINE history featured a bunch of photos from high school 3-4 years ago, in which she looked like a very innocent Japanese schoolgirl, flashing peace signs on field trips and the like. This all piqued my interest as she reminded me of so many girls I wanted to bang when I was 16-17. We chatted back and forth for a few days before she raised the topic of money; I suggested 10k+30k and she was fine with it.

Unfortunately, as I was arriving in Tokyo, she told me that she had come down with a yeast infection and couldn't meet. I thought about taking her out on a platonic date anyway, but because my time in Tokyo was limited and YOLO, decided to fill her time slot with a girl from [Redacted]. (This turned out to be a pretty awesome experience that I'll post about elsewhere.)

Girl No. 3: "R"

25-year-old singer. She posted a fairly hot-looking body pic to the site (in a form-fitting white dress that revealed ample cleavage and a curvy-but-not-fat body) but didn't post any face pics. Like H, she replied to my message with a LINE message in English and explained that she had lived in the US for a while. We set a date to meet up, without discussing money at all (and I was waiting for that shoe to drop).

I met her at my hotel and we had a drink at a jazz bar. She was wearing a rather classy-looking embroidered black dress, and her face was quite attractive (vaguely reminding me of Koyuki). The venue got her talking about her singing career, and how she had lived in a few cities around the world trying to make it in music. Her English was very good, and she told me that she spoke a couple of European languages as well.

As we finished our drinks she agreed to come up to my room -- still having not broached the topic of payment. When we arrived and settled in, she nervously explained that it was her first time sugaring and that she didn't know what to ask for. I counted out 40k from my wallet, and she smiled and thanked me. I complimented her for being classy about the money, and she said she was grateful that I didn't demand to see her face, because most men on the site wanted to see it up-front and she was reluctant to share it online.

Then she asked me if I wanted to take a shower; I said "Do you?" She thought about it and said "not really," then we disrobed each other and went into it on the bed. From this point forward, she was AMAZING, with very few limits. She had nice D-cups and a shaved pussy, and was open to DFK and BBBJ. I popped once fucking her missionary. After we cleaned up a bit in the shower, we went back to the bed and ended up in an extended 69 session where I was essentially fucking her throat while licking her pussy and ass. I really wanted to blow another load in her mouth but couldn't quite get there, and had just used up the last American condom I had brought with me, so ended up putting her back in missionary and finishing with sumata, cumming all over her tits and her flat stomach.

Overall evaluation: 10/10, will be calling her again next time I'm in town, and might make her a regular if the frequency of my Tokyo trips picks up.

Girl No. 0.5

This is on a different note, but some time before this trip, I talked a really perverted-looking girl on this site into making "private" porn videos for me (undressing, masturbating, etc.) on the condition that I'd pay her for each one and wouldn't share them with others. She actually made a few for me, and was willing to make a lot more as she was very strapped for cash, but I cut myself off from spending too much on this. It was a fun experiment while it lasted.

Final verdict:

Despite this site's flaws, it seems to be a pretty good place to meet Japanese SBs assuming you can read/write Japanese well enough to introduce yourself by message and skim the online profiles.

Thanks for this very detailed review. Tired of sugaring in general and SA in particular, but will keep it in mind if the itch comes back. As always, it also seems that Japanese ladies have more reasonable expectations re. compensation vs western ones
 
As always, it also seems that Japanese ladies have more reasonable expectations re. compensation vs western ones

There has been some deflation in general as far as I am aware (5 man is still a relatively common ask but more people are open to 4 or sometimes less), but there are still some whoppers asking for 3 plus for a dinner date (only) or 10 plus for more.

That may change once March ends and the university students go back to school. But I’m hoping not.