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TokyoExpat said:
I think that’s the key. The college aged girls are the one’s looking to rope in 10,000 man to say hello. I tell everyone due to spoofing, I don’t offer 1-man. They usually come back with suggestions of a tea and ask for transportation. My experience, the 24y-28y are the one’s that are more realistic and want some adventure and open to the true SB relationship. 29y-34y are treating it as one-off for sex with some compensation their way.
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I just want to get straight to business, maybe something to drink beforehand / eat is ok. Will have to try and see what happens.
 
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TokyoExpat said:
Thank you for that. I suppose it’s a reset. I’ve been doing coffee meetings then direct to hotel if there is no cat fishing. However,

I agree with that, but have also found it useful that they can see your posts. Many of my conversations die out after 2-3 responses. Once I posts to the BB, all the one’s that left my offer on ‘read’ jump back on it and close the agreement that day.
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This is what I’m after just closing the agreement quickly to get my kinky stuff.
 
Rusty Trombone said:
Bugger that. 10,000yen to sit and drink coffee. Taking the piss.
Generally I'll do 10,000yen for a meal + drinks and only pay at the end.
Generally it winds up back in the bedroom, and if not by the 2nd time, then I'll cut them loose.
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Same here. Coffee for free, just to get to know each other (but I give her some chocolates). Meal for 10K. Meal and more 30K. Always pay at the end.
 
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I find reading profiles fun ... especially google translated. Like this gem:

The style is a little thick and the flesh is good.
It is said that the eyes and nose are clear and fair.
It's said to be quite natural, so
I don't think it suits people who like intelligent people.
 
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Rusty Trombone said:
Signed up to Paters a few weeks ago. Got 3 dates coming up in the next 3 weeks.
Only done the free bit of sd.jp but it seems pretty good. But there are so many women without photos.
Gonna let my paters membership expire before paying for sd.

I presume there is a stealth feature on the SD site (once you've paid) where they don't see your footprints unless they want you to.
The 足跡is a pain as I have the bare minimum profile, yet I've got about 10 emails in my inbox (which i can't read)

I saw a girl I know on paters/sd and she saw me. She is an absolute bitch of a thing. So the stealth feature is great.
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Just curious how much do they charge and I suppose you cant send message without subscription.
 
Joe2017 said:
Same here. Coffee for free, just to get to know each other (but I give her some chocolates). Meal for 10K. Meal and more 30K. Always pay at the end.
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When playing in the sugar world, it is different from the mongering universe. You need to separate the coffee expense from the hotel date fun. I offer お茶1、大人２−３ on the first or second message to confirm they are warm for sex on the first date. This is a must. In your case, need to be clear on if the meal and hotel fun is included or separate, 3 total, or 1+3=4 total for e date. ONLY go above 3 for a model, gravure idol or race queen. Regular girls don't get to command more than this and I see nurses, OLs and other regular folk trying to get 5+ and it's a hoot, I ask them if they got their vaccination shot(s) and where they want to meet and where they live and if they know how to wash the PH balance, etc etc. Detailed but important.

Note, the farther west or east Tokyo they live the more chance they are gunning for money. Hachioji, Tachikawa, even Chofu are not good candidates in my experience. Could be diamonds in the rough....

If it is unclear, then an altercation can happen in the hotel and you do NOT want this as a visiting or local foreigner. They will throw words like "not enough" or "you are violent" so let's go to the police or worse words. If you are ever in this situation, just simply pick your gear up, which should be minimal if you have used the eki rental lockers, and leave. If she latches on, simply grab her ears and twist and she will relent and let go and you can escape. Yes, been there and done that.
 
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shammykun said:
When playing in the sugar world, it is different from the mongering universe. You need to separate the coffee expense from the hotel date fun. I offer お茶1、大人２−３ on the first or second message to confirm they are warm for sex on the first date. This is a must. In your case, need to be clear on if the meal and hotel fun is included or separate, 3 total, or 1+3=4 total for e date. ONLY go above 3 for a model, gravure idol or race queen. Regular girls don't get to command more than this and I see nurses, OLs and other regular folk trying to get 5+ and it's a hoot, I ask them if they got their vaccination shot(s) and where they want to meet and where they live and if they know how to wash the PH balance, etc etc. Detailed but important.

Note, the farther west or east Tokyo they live the more chance they are gunning for money. Hachioji, Tachikawa, even Chofu are not good candidates in my experience. Could be diamonds in the rough....

If it is unclear, then an altercation can happen in the hotel and you do NOT want this as a visiting or local foreigner. They will throw words like "not enough" or "you are violent" so let's go to the police or worse words. If you are ever in this situation, just simply pick your gear up, which should be minimal if you have used the eki rental lockers, and leave. If she latches on, simply grab her ears and twist and she will relent and let go and you can escape. Yes, been there and done that.
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How successful do you think this approach would be:

1. Coffee meet and greet: 0 yen sugar - coffee/cake on me
2. Breakfast/Brunch/Lunch/Dinner : 0 yen sugar - meal and drinks on me
3. Love Hotel session: 30,000 yen sugar fee
4. Trips - all expenses paid, no sugar fee.
 
shammykun said:
If it is unclear, then an altercation can happen in the hotel and you do NOT want this as a visiting or local foreigner. They will throw words like "not enough" or "you are violent" so let's go to the police or worse words. If you are ever in this situation, just simply pick your gear up, which should be minimal if you have used the eki rental lockers, and leave. If she latches on, simply grab her ears and twist and she will relent and let go and you can escape. Yes, been there and done that.
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I dunno man, I’ve been using this site off and on since 2017… and this has never happened to me I will keep the ear trick in mind though!
 
shammykun said:
If she latches on, simply grab her ears and twist and she will relent and let go and you can escape. Yes, been there and done that.
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Really??
Worth assaulting a woman for an extra 10,000.
If, as you say, you weren’t clear on the price, and I’ve made that mistake, just pay and put it down to a learning experience and never see her again.
 
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namae said:
How successful do you think this approach would be:

1. Coffee meet and greet: 0 yen sugar - coffee/cake on me
2. Breakfast/Brunch/Lunch/Dinner : 0 yen sugar - meal and drinks on me
3. Love Hotel session: 30,000 yen sugar fee
4. Trips - all expenses paid, no sugar fee.
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To me it seems low, but I also might just be spending too much. If I just want a quick release and sex, then can just to go a standard shop for that price. With my SBs, its more like conventional dating with restaurants, shopping, shows, ...etc, so I pay more to make the date worth her time as well.

I offer 10,000 for meet and greet. This is so the woman doesn't have to worry about transport costs or losing out on time. I figure it also let's her know that I'm serious.
A previous post said the average PPM was 40,000 - 60,000 yen. I generally go for 30,000 (in addition to meet and greet) if I'm not really into her. On good encounters or long term prospects, I generally do 50,000 yen for PPM (plus all the date expenses of course).
I've never done the monthly allowance, but have been tempted for one in particular since she's busy but makes time to see me... And then I come to my senses and realize we aren't there yet.
 
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We would also have to add to the expense account the compensations or gifts or unpaid loans that some SB requested:
1. Breast implants surgery
2. Fancy dog
3. Holidays West Europe
4. Holidays Thailand
5. Holidays Okinawa
6. Cartier watch
7. Her apartment rent for a month
8. Prada bag
9. Michelin 3 stars Sushi restaurant
10. Louboutin shoes
11. Video camera
12. Agent Provocateur lingerie
13. Atelier des ORS Perfume
14. LELO Sex toy
15. Tokyo Disney
…I did not accept many, and some SB requested more than one thing from the list. The world of SBs is full of surprises :ROFLMAO:
What has been the most expensive or crazy thing that a SB asked you?
 
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Joe2017 said:
We would also have to add to the expense account the compensations or gifts or unpaid loans that some SB requested:
1. Breast implants surgery
2. Fancy dog
3. Holidays West Europe
4. Holidays Thailand
5. Holidays Okinawa
6. Cartier watch
7. Her apartment rent for a month
8. Prada bag
9. Michelin 3 stars Sushi restaurant
10. Louboutin shoes
11. Video camera
12. Agent Provocateur lingerie
13. Atelier des ORS Perfume
14. LELO Sex toy
15. Tokyo Disney
…I did not accept many, and some SB requested more than one thing from the list. The world of SBs is full of surprises :ROFLMAO:
What has been the most expensive or crazy thing that a SB asked you?
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Not a SB, but an escort I was living/dating/sleeping with asked to borrow a couple thousand dollars to gamble with so she could win me some money. Nope. lost it all. lol.

However, on the flip side she paid all the lodging, food, took me to nice places, and didn't charge me for anything. It was either even or I came out a little ahead, so it wasn't such an odd request.
 
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Joe2017 said:
We would also have to add to the expense account the compensations or gifts or unpaid loans that some SB requested:/QUOTE]

Dude, with a list like that you could as well get married. :eek::D
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Joe2017 said:
We would also have to add to the expense account the compensations or gifts or unpaid loans that some SB requested:
1. Breast implants surgery
2. Fancy dog
3. Holidays West Europe
4. Holidays Thailand
5. Holidays Okinawa
6. Cartier watch
7. Her apartment rent for a month
8. Prada bag
9. Michelin 3 stars Sushi restaurant
10. Louboutin shoes
11. Video camera
12. Agent Provocateur lingerie
13. Atelier des ORS Perfume
14. LELO Sex toy
15. Tokyo Disney
…I did not accept many, and some SB requested more than one thing from the list. The world of SBs is full of surprises :ROFLMAO:
What has been the most expensive or crazy thing that a SB asked you?
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yeah well I prefer to forget about this type of SB
Craziest thing the current one asked me ?
Just yesterday . Some new wipes to clean my floor . Thats the type of grateful SB you want ! :)

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Joe2017 said:
We would also have to add to the expense account the compensations or gifts or unpaid loans that some SB requested:
1. Breast implants surgery
2. Fancy dog
3. Holidays West Europe
4. Holidays Thailand
5. Holidays Okinawa
6. Cartier watch
7. Her apartment rent for a month
8. Prada bag
9. Michelin 3 stars Sushi restaurant
10. Louboutin shoes
11. Video camera
12. Agent Provocateur lingerie
13. Atelier des ORS Perfume
14. LELO Sex toy
15. Tokyo Disney
…I did not accept many, and some SB requested more than one thing from the list. The world of SBs is full of surprises :ROFLMAO:
What has been the most expensive or crazy thing that a SB asked you?
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16. An Italian sports car
 
Joe2017 said:
2. Fancy dog
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This one makes me ill. At least within Japan, so many of these designer dogs are given as gifts and later just tossed aside because someone doesn't want to take care of it. (Kittens & other pets too, not just the dogs..)

Joe2017 said:
12. Agent Provocateur lingerie
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This is stuff is so costly but poorly made and falls apart easily. Yeah, but still buy it because it's expensive...
 
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TAG Manager said:
This is stuff is so costly but poorly made and falls apart easily. Yeah, but still buy it because it's expensive...
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Agreed. Come to think of it the 3-star Michelin sushi restaurant (I assume it is Jiro) was a scam too. Way ovet-rated, over-hyped and over-expensive
 
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