sugardaddy.jp some initial experiences

I don't know or understand if there is a general SD topic thread or not, was not sure where I was going to put this, so just deal. ☮️

I stumbled upon a post recently that I'm not sure how to share a link to. The gist of it was someone claiming to belong to two different racial backgrounds here. It's quite mind-boggling to me, especially because I've encountered similar situations before, particularly with individuals from Southeast Asia who have relocated to the United States and now identify as American (which is understandable) and WHITE (not understandable).

Really?
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I have racial preferences, but they are more related to country of origin. An Indian from India is a complete 180-degree flip from an Indian who grew up in America. (You get the idea?)

If I run into you on Seeking or SD.JP and you tell me you're just like Hugh Jackman and when I actually meet you, it's more like Mufasa from Pakistan.

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Does not compute my friend.
 
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I don't know or understand if there is a general SD topic thread or not, was not sure where I was going to put this, so just deal. ☮️

I stumbled upon a post recently that I'm not sure how to share a link to. The gist of it was someone claiming to belong to two different racial backgrounds here. It's quite mind-boggling to me, especially because I've encountered similar situations before, particularly with individuals from Southeast Asia who have relocated to the United States and now identify as American (which is understandable) and WHITE (not understandable).

Really?
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I have racial preferences, but they are more related to country of origin. An Indian from India is a complete 180-degree flip from an Indian who grew up in America. (You get the idea?)

If I run into you on Seeking or SD.JP and you tell me you're just like Hugh Jackman and when I actually meet you, it's more like Mufasa from Pakistan.

Calculating Figure It Out GIF


Does not compute my friend.
Aren't most apps bullshit pretty much?
 
"And afterwards I sent a message telling her she's very interesting person but I don't felt chemistry between us, and as I'm looking for a sugar baby... I won't pursue."

TMI and totally unnecessary. Ghosting is the way. Never make it personal. Lawdy lawd, this isn't a job interview.
I mean even when I reject candidates after an interview I never give feedback. Just send the canned auto email and move on.
 
The bullshit flows both ways. ;)
More than 95% of my Matches on Tinder were Cryptocurrency Scammers. I encountered a lot of Scammers on Match and Hinge too.

In my case, it was all One Way.
 
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I stumbled upon a post recently that I'm not sure how to share a link to. The gist of it was someone claiming to belong to two different racial backgrounds here. It's quite mind-boggling to me, especially because I've encountered similar situations before, particularly with individuals from Southeast Asia who have relocated to the United States and now identify as American (which is understandable) and WHITE (not understandable).
This is the post you're referring to (I think): https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/looking-for-fun.33260/#post-376144, just click the post number in the top right and it gives you a direct link.
If I run into you on Seeking or SD.JP and you tell me you're just like Hugh Jackman and when I actually meet you, it's more like Mufasa from Pakistan.
I think what you are politely trying to say is that people that show up to a meeting aren't exactly who they said they were or used fake pictures, yeah?
You don't need to pull specific groups of people into this, but I think we get what you are swinging at.
 
I think what you are politely trying to say is that people that show up to a meeting aren't exactly who they said they were or used fake pictures, yeah?
The term that describes this phenomenon is "catfishing."
 
Accurate, I was just trying to defuse the racial thing since some people were complaining about it.
I understand, my friend. Stay cool! 👍😎
 
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I just like seeing her outside the shop, at a lazy pace, with dinner and maybe some shopping after. It's fun
Yeah I don't care why some of the guys on here make a big deal out of the sugardaddy/paters girls also working at fuuzoku shops. The sugar dating experience is different, and at least it should increase the chance that the girl is not a total maguro.
 
I mean even when I reject candidates after an interview I never give feedback. Just send the canned auto email and move on.
I kind of appreciate the feedback if it's anything I can work on myself. Surely any industry is better off with candidates who are motivated to improve themselves and be worthy of the job at some point.
 
Yeah I don't care why some of the guys on here make a big deal out of the sugardaddy/paters girls also working at fuuzoku shops. The sugar dating experience is different, and at least it should increase the chance that the girl is not a total maguro.
I agree the vast majority are shop girls who do it on the side,
 
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I kind of appreciate the feedback if it's anything I can work on myself. Surely any industry is better off with candidates who are motivated to improve themselves and be worthy of the job at some point.
It's certainly desirable as a candidate to get feedback.

As the giver of feedback though, there's no tangible benefit for doing so. Also, depending on what country you're in, there is considerable risk that any comment you make may lead to a PR nightmare, or a discrimination lawsuit. Previous job before I moved back to Japan, HR gave me a whole sermon about this.

So, canned responses it is.
 
This is the post you're referring to (I think): https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/looking-for-fun.33260/#post-376144, just click the post number in the top right and it gives you a direct link.

I think what you are politely trying to say is that people that show up to a meeting aren't exactly who they said they were or used fake pictures, yeah?
You don't need to pull specific groups of people into this, but I think we get what you are swinging at.
Gotcha!

I didn't mean to single out any particular groups with that example, it was just something from real life.
 
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I've started using SD.JP a week ago. So far:

Four in person encounters.
  1. Unreasonably good looking. She wasn't into adults, though, so I had to pass.
  2. Cute, but probably tachinbo. She was nice anyway, full of energy, not what I would expect from a standing girl.
  3. Not as cute as expected, but very good conversationalist. It was fun to have her around, she told me a lot of things I had no idea about. Super entertaining and easy to talk with.
  4. Very cute but hard to figure out. I can't say if she is a standing girl or a total amateur. Also, shy in person.
One "online only" encounter with a girl from a different city. Amazing conversationalist. I suspect she doesn't look that good, but she is maintaining the conversation very well. I will definitely meet with her just because shes seem fun. I think she would go out with me even if I only paid for food and transport.

My thoughts as a person who is looking for a quality girl:
  • I will have to meet with many girls before finding a good one. The "cospa" is not here, if that's what you are looking for. You will spend more on coffees than you would on deriheru. Maybe I should just start saying that for the first coffee I cover transport only?
  • Girls often look surprisingly good - even the ones that have no picture at all, or have fully blurred picture. I am yet to see a girl that wasn't cute to at least some degree.
  • I am getting HUGE amount of messages. I think my profile is standing out among others, but it makes it very hard to decide who to meet with. I am definitely avoiding "no coffee" and "breast size" girls, but other than that, I don't know how to filter them. They are just too cute on pics and I don't want to spend 50万 on coffee.
 
I've started using SD.JP a week ago. So far:

Four in person encounters.
  1. Unreasonably good looking. She wasn't into adults, though, so I had to pass.
  2. Cute, but probably tachinbo. She was nice anyway, full of energy, not what I would expect from a standing girl.
  3. Not as cute as expected, but very good conversationalist. It was fun to have her around, she told me a lot of things I had no idea about. Super entertaining and easy to talk with.
  4. Very cute but hard to figure out. I can't say if she is a standing girl or a total amateur. Also, shy in person.
One "online only" encounter with a girl from a different city. Amazing conversationalist. I suspect she doesn't look that good, but she is maintaining the conversation very well. I will definitely meet with her just because shes seem fun. I think she would go out with me even if I only paid for food and transport.

My thoughts as a person who is looking for a quality girl:
  • I will have to meet with many girls before finding a good one. The "cospa" is not here, if that's what you are looking for. You will spend more on coffees than you would on deriheru. Maybe I should just start saying that for the first coffee I cover transport only?
  • Girls often look surprisingly good - even the ones that have no picture at all, or have fully blurred picture. I am yet to see a girl that wasn't cute to at least some degree.
  • I am getting HUGE amount of messages. I think my profile is standing out among others, but it makes it very hard to decide who to meet with. I am definitely avoiding "no coffee" and "breast size" girls, but other than that, I don't know how to filter them. They are just too cute on pics and I don't want to spend 50万 on coffee.
That's a pretty good track record for a week.
Would you share how much did you spent on those meetings ?
 
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How did you conclude that?
The girl came on a short notice to Shinjuku, she came from Shin Okubo area, after the date she went back the same way. She also warned me to take shower with girls just in case, because some of them will try to steal my belongings and leave while I shower. And of course "adults" was her main reason to meet.
Let me know if my assumption sounds wrong.

That's a pretty good track record for a week.
Would you share how much did you spent on those meetings ?
For the girls from the post you've quoted I paid like 90k total. I've met more girls since my last post. Didn't find "the one" yet, but I've met a few times with a low key scammer that I might talk about later in a separate post. Obviously, looks wise, a stunning girl, but with huge problems that unfortunately make relationship unmaintainable.

As a side note, I am still talking with the "online only girl". She doesn't ask for any money, we just talk like friends.
 
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Could be Tachinbo but honestly also plenty of ladies just parked at a deai cafe with their Twitter profile shouting "裏垢女子" and "available now in Shinjuku" and in my incredibly small sample size some (many) of them are pros working off shop to fill in schedule gaps / make extra money. It's actually not that easy to keep a full schedule just doing it half assed.

I met one legit "fresh off the Shinkansen" from Inaka, who came to Tokyo following a friend and was struggling to make rent with her izakaya baito; she was extremely normal and ended up going home a month later. Tokyo wasn't for her. She pinged me once months later but I was like "really? I don't think you want this". Check me out White Knighting lol
 
Could be Tachinbo but honestly also plenty of ladies just parked at a deai cafe with their Twitter profile shouting "裏垢女子" and "available now in Shinjuku" and in my incredibly small sample size some (many) of them are pros working off shop to fill in schedule gaps / make extra money. It's actually not that easy to keep a full schedule just doing it half assed.

I met one legit "fresh off the Shinkansen" from Inaka, who came to Tokyo following a friend and was struggling to make rent with her izakaya baito; she was extremely normal and ended up going home a month later. Tokyo wasn't for her. She pinged me once months later but I was like "really? I don't think you want this". Check me out White Knighting lol
Thanks for clarifying! That makes sense, and would definitely apply to the fourth girl I previously mentioned.
 
Could be Tachinbo but honestly also plenty of ladies just parked at a deai cafe with their Twitter profile shouting "裏垢女子" and "available now in Shinjuku" and in my incredibly small sample size some (many) of them are pros working off shop to fill in schedule gaps / make extra money.
Yeah, probably pro but there is much more to Shinjuku than the Tachinbo (who were not even a thing since recent.)

Also could just live in the area and / or go to a host club after the appointment.
 
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It's been around three weeks since I started using the app. I won't note all my encounters (too many of them), but here is a short summary that will add to what I've written in my previous post. Keep in mind it's very personal and your mileage may vary:
  • I still believe the "cospa" is terrible—if you're looking to save money, this isn't the place for you.
  • There will inevitably be an emotional attachment, whether you like it or not. I thought SD.JP would be an easy shortcut to finding a cute girlfriend without putting in much effort, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe it's just the girls I've chosen—I'm not sure.
  • You can find amazing girls here. It won't be easy and will take time (hence my point about the cospa), but if you define your type or goal beforehand, you can significantly reduce the cost. Just make up your mind and stick to it. You will be bombarded with messages from girls and it will be hard to choose who to meet.
  • You'll come across all types of people on the app—from office workers who are low-key escorts and will sleep with you without getting too attached, to girls searching solely for paid sex, to those who might sleep with you once they genuinely "like" you, and even girls interested only in paid dinners or companionship.
  • Many girls will ask about conditions upfront, but in my experience, the ones who don't bring up adults right away tend to be the most interesting.
  • Most importantly, if you're looking for someone with actual interests, someone who can hold an insightful conversation, be a good companion, and whom you can genuinely appreciate and support, you will find them on the app. Some of the girls are genuinely amazing.
  • Watch out for girls that meet in Ginza and check out expensive stores. I had it happen once, and while the girl didn't push for anything, if I wasn't assertive, I might have bought her the stuff she wanted.
  • Be careful who you give money to - more details in a separate post here;

As for me - I can't say for sure yet, but I might have found my regular. I've met her twice, she is super fun to be with, she does not seem to have strange issues and she looks good. But let's see where it goes, I'll keep you posted!