sugardaddy.jp some initial experiences

NipponGinko said:
Any insight as to why your profile stands out?
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Instead of posting pics of hotels or cars, I have 4-5 pictures of myself. Good ones, not blurred.
I am also quite young comparing to the average user of the app, which probably can backfire in some cases, as I'd assume some girls simply prefer to meet older guys, but works well for me regardless.
 
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I recently re-registered on SugarDaddy after taking a year+ off. My goal is to have a very small number of regular enjoyable social and sexual relationships. I tried to make this as clear as possible in my profile and introduction message, and immediately blocked anyone who was (a) not interested in dating, (b) not interested in sex, (c) very small and/or chubby, (d) lacking a photo, or (e) lacking any useful information in their profile. After filtering and exchanging messages with a bunch of women, I went on five dates in the course of a couple of weeks, slept with four of them, and repeated with three of them.

The repeats were all lunch dates who were enthusiastically down to fuck right after the first meal.
  1. 25-year-old academic type -- has a master's and part of a doctorate in a liberal arts field, and was carrying a copy of Nabokov's Lolita in her purse when I first met her. One of my all-time favorites at this point. She is physically very tall (low 170s) and has a rather large frame, which together with her brains, probably limits her options on the Japanese dating market. But she is interesting to talk to and acts more into me than any other woman I have been with. We spend a lot of time making out and gazing into each other's eyes, and she seriously gets off on my cock, has multiple orgasms, etc. Like hyper GFE. At the same time I don't get "crazy" vibes from her at all; she is very cool and just happens to have a very strong libido. Biggest red flag is that she admitted up-front to being in an LTR, and if she's cheating at this young age, I have to be careful not to like her too much. Also she lives somewhat far away, and between her work and the LTR, our schedules only line up every other week or so.
  2. 24-year-old who works at a hospital conveniently located a couple of stations away from my house, and a couple more stations away from a love hotel district. She has a fairly plain face but an AMAZING body -- big tits, grabbable ass, washboard abs -- and gives some earth-shattering head complete with ball licking. On the first date, she told me she has a regular SD but wanted to pick up another for additional financial security. She is way less romantic than #1 and treats me more like a casual acquaintance than anything, but I can give her a pass because fuuuuuck she has a nice body and fuuuuck she can get me off.
  3. 40-year-old housewife with 3 kids (similar numbers to mine). Although she's getting a little saggy, as we all do at this age, I like her body and she is quite responsive in bed, and also easy to meet up with when I have free time on weekdays. She is very casual about sex and I wonder whether she might have been a SW of some kind before getting married.
None of these women speak much English or have any appreciable international experience, and I get the impression that they all enjoy the novelty of being with a gaijin.

The duds were both dinner dates:
  1. 24-year-old with a tall and skinny body. She was cute, and chill to talk to over dinner, so seemed promising. She couldn't stay after dinner due to a work issue, but I met her for a hotel date a few days later. She was very withdrawn and reserved when it came to sex, and everything felt very weird. So that was that.
  2. 30-year-old Insta-thot type. Very good looking, like a high-end kyabajo, but I didn't like her personality very much and she told me she wanted to have at least two dates before sex -- which gave me the impression that she was just trolling for paid meals (like many women on these apps), so I dropped her.
Gonna take another breather from the app and see how far I get with the three. I am quite satisfied with the quality of this crop compared to the women I met through the app a couple of years ago, maybe because I have found more clarity as to exactly what I want and have gotten aggressive about filtering out anyone who seems to not be a match. This must be what it's like to be a woman on Tinder.
 
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fireman said:
None of these women speak much English or have any appreciable international experience
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I know this have been answered before years ago, but on sd.jp is there a somewhat limited pool of passable English speakers? I'll be living in Japan starting later this year, and my spoken Japanese is still very rudimentary.

I'm looking for something more emotionally involved & longer lasting than just frequenting SLs. I'm definitely prepared for my terrible Japanese language abilities to be a hindrance, but I'm unsure if it's a massive blocker? In no other country I've been has it been an issue, but Japanese English seems like such a miss from my experience.
 
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There are definitely English speakers but not that many. If you want an English speaker you might have better luck with a site like Seeking.
 
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NipponGinko said:
Any insight as to why your profile stands out?
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I think that, more than a face picture, you need some description of yourself and what kind of relationship you are seeking. I used a profile photo that was basically just my torso and arms, so they can see that I dress reasonably well and am not especially fat or gross. I don't think that SBs tend to care very much about facial features.

Based on conversations with my dates and stuff I read online, there are a LOT of older guys on these sites, they tend to be from their 50s on up. Many women are wary of good-looking younger guys because they often turn out to be scams of various kinds, not unlike the scams that target guys on mainstream dating apps. Also many guys are constant no-shows, and many harass women for candid photos and then ghost when they don't get any. If you can show that you're a real person who isn't going to waste their time, you are well ahead of the pack.
Alice said:
It's usually the net worth
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Actually Sugar Daddy doesn't have a spot to disclose this on your profile. Only annual income. And I don't think most girls care about the number that much since they're basically just expecting to get 30k to 50k a few times a month. Yeah there are some who want a LOT more but most are not in this category.
 
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I registered on Sugar Daddy yesterday because i was very curious what it would be like. I set the filters to max 24 and Tokyo and after scrolling for half an hour i STILL didn't reach the end, its wild. You guys Arent lying about the supply and needing filters.
I was looking around and didn't really see any useful filters, is that for diamond only? Is there a way to filter on adult for example or price ranges, or is that only discussed in chat?
 
The filters indeed suck.

Any public discussion of prices gets censored quickly and may lead to a ban. You can propose numbers in private messages but have to be careful not to use compensation-related words. Usually people will say 食事１大人３ or something similar. Again, in private messages only, such information will be censored if you put it in a profile or a bulletin board post. Also note that most women will not exchange LINE or other contact details until you meet in person (for scam prevention purposes).

Diamonds can filter by type of date desired, but the codes are confusing. My sense is that 積極的 usually means immediate sex, while 食事を楽しみたい usually means no sex, but women might use these with different intentions. So there is not really a good filter for this even if you pay.

If you are just looking to get laid with minimal resistance, the bulletin board is the way to go.
 
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fireman said:
The filters indeed suck.

Any public discussion of prices gets censored quickly and may lead to a ban. You can propose numbers in private messages but have to be careful not to use compensation-related words. Usually people will say 食事１大人３ or something similar. Again, in private messages only, such information will be censored if you put it in a profile or a bulletin board post. Also note that most women will not exchange LINE or other contact details until you meet in person (for scam prevention purposes).

Diamonds can filter by type of date desired, but the codes are confusing. My sense is that 積極的 usually means immediate sex, while 食事を楽しみたい usually means no sex, but women might use these with different intentions. So there is not really a good filter for this even if you pay.

If you are just looking to get laid with minimal resistance, the bulletin board is the way to go.
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Thanks for the info, i guess the filtering you guys do is based on experience using the application then pretty much. Any redflags to look out for? Ive seen several mentioned in here already and its the usual watch out for scams pretty much.
 
thatguythere said:
Any redflags to look out for?
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This is probably obvious and you probably already take this into account: if the photos seem TGTBT, they probably are.

I first encountered this phenomenon in The Misty Past, when I discovered - and confronted - a person who used a non-super-famous gravure model's photos on a Japanese dating site.

When confronted, the person claimed to be that specific J-Girl and sent numerous jibber-jabber messages as the exchange plunged down into the Rabbit Hole of absurdity.

Since then, waves of scammers and time wasters have used stolen pics.

Some of these people also send pics of: meals they didn't cook, golf outings they didn't attend, expensive watches, expensive handbags, wine cellars and expensive cars.
 
I mean as long as you only pay by cash and have a physical meeting first, you dodge 90% of these scams already. Can always walk away if you do a meet first.
 
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thatguythere said:
Just a test to see whats available, and im already overwhelmed. Also are 24 y/os not considered fully developed anymore :/
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I think it's mostly down to that 24 year olds are less likely to know exactly what they want themselves.

My experience with girls in their early 20s are that you have to "mold" them a lot more, which can be a huge miss. Girls in their late 20s generally know who they are, and what they want, which really makes a difference when they're naked on top of you.

This isn't exclusive to men or women, just a part of growing up.
 
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dekkaidanbo said:
I don't think they were ever considered fully developed 🤣
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According to biology consensus their brains are fully developed around 21-22, and their bodies even earlier. But lets not get into this topic too much, to each their own and its so varied from person to person and their experiences anyway
 
thatguythere said:
According to biology consensus their brains are fully developed around 21-22
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I think the current studies say it's only around the age of 25.

But sure, you can sweet-talk a girl in her twenties to a love hotel - nothing wrong with that. But a girl in her thirties won't need that much convincing and a girl in her forties will drag you in herself and ruin your weekend.
 
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thatguythere said:
According to biology consensus their brains are fully developed around 21-22, and their bodies even earlier.
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Yeah, about that.....

"In our 18 to 35 year old subjects an almost global statistically significant linear increase of T1w/T2w myelin with age was detected with no detectable quadratic age effect. The regions displaying the strongest age-dependence in our study overlap with regions of significant linear age effect of Grydeland et al.'s (2013) young cohort. The agreement between these two studies indicates that it is unlikely that technical issues such as scanner or location-specific biases contribute significantly to the findings. Additionally, Miller et al (2012), who also reported increasing myelinated fiber length density well into the 30s, used a non-MRI technique of stereology in postmortem brains to draw their conclusions. Together these results suggest the potential of using MRI T1w/T2w image intensity as a proxy for cortical myelin density in the living human brain."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4262571/

This, by the way, is why you rarely see higher level managers under 40. Cortical myelin also begins to decline from the late 50s, which is why retirement in the mid 60s is common, and why the idea of politicians in their 70s running the world is so abhorrent.
 
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Ive seen several different studies ranging from 20-30, all citing different factors, origins, parts of the brain, scans and what not. A 18 year old can be way more mature and independant than a 28 year old, depending on their situation, background, friends, family, environment and what not. Sure, usually not the case, but the ages in the studies are more of a "general outline" than a hard truth. What does a "fully developed brain" even entail? Are people unable to make rational decisions before they reach a predetermined age? Do you grow smarter by doing nothing just because you grow older? How important is nature vs nurture etc. If you're 20+, and you decide to make a profile on sugardaddy, the consequences of your actions are on you. If people werent allowed to have sex before their brain would be "fully developed" the age of consent would be 30 and 40 according to some studies. At a certain point, you are expected to bear the responsibility of your actions, which differs between nations as well, regarding whats socially accepted. If youre 18 in america your parents kick you out of the house and you're on your own, you're an adult have fun. As long as its a willfull choice, without coercion or negative influence, and you accept the responsibilities that your decisions entail, and youre legally allowed to partake, its alright in my book.


But this diverts from the thread a bit too much
 
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When I talk to SBs in their 20s they are almost always shocked to hear that women in their 30s and 40s are on the site, as if they thought 29 was a practical age limit for sugaring.

So yeah, not fully developed.
 
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thatguythere said:
If youre 18 in america your parents kick you out of the house and you're on your own, you're an adult have fun.
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And you're still not allowed to drink.

I'm not saying people shouldn't date anyone under 25. If you find someone great and you click I don't think age matters so much. I would consider dating a guy in his early 20s if he was like super mature, not gonna be hung up on a number.

I just feel like selecting under a certain number is kinda creepy and predatory. Age is not what makes someone attractive.
 
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Alice said:
And you're still not allowed to drink.

I'm not saying people shouldn't date anyone under 25. If you find someone great and you click I don't think age matters so much. I would consider dating a guy in his early 20s if he was like super mature, not gonna be hung up on a number.

I just feel like selecting under a certain number is kinda creepy and predatory. Age is not what makes someone attractive.
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I think guys who are fixated on young girls show their insecurities or are intimated by older women. It's either the mindset that I gotta be in control and more experienced or being over 22-25 equals, higher body count and they can't control or manipulate them anymore. Either way it intimidates these kind of men and ironically exposes their immaturity. 🤣
 
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