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Sugaring vs Escorting : what do you prefer?

Merica said:
Best of luck to you. Life’s great on the other side.
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Well it’s not always “great” if your kids hate you as a result. But time heals a lot of things. In my case at least although I had regrets about how it happened, and felt a lot of guilt even to this day, I have no regret that it happened. Would have become a completely emasculated zombie otherwise
 
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Merica said:
Apparently it is. I rarely if ever got a welcome like this coming home. I doubt any of my married guy friends have either. We talk about it, it fucking sucks when it gets to that point.

The amount of compliments a man gets is probably like 1/1000th of what a woman gets. I’ve seen it the same everywhere in the world I’ve been to so far.

I’d venture to say only about 10% of women would even think the way you do so kudos for being a rare breed who understands what guys go through.

Sure if they are trying to get married and lock you down it’s all sunshine and roses. After marriage (or even long term relationship that’s gone stale), good luck ever hearing anything like that.

Thus, we stay single. And happy. Or at least content...
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lol... i remember the first word she uttered as soon as I came back from the office... it was either “OSOI !!!” (You’re late!!) or “HAYAI” (Why so early?!). Once I exploded and asked in not-so-polite Japanese , so when the fuck am I exactly supposed to come back?! She just laughed, happy to drive me bonkers as usual
 
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Frenchy said:
lol... i remember the first word she uttered as soon as I came back from the office... it was either “OSOI !!!” (You’re late!!) or “HAYAI” (Why so early?!). Once I exploded and asked in not-so-polite Japanese , so when the fuck am I exactly supposed to come back?! She just laughed, happy to drive me bonkers as usual
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Wow, fuck me. Literally the definition of damned if you do and damned if you don’t. That definitely sounds like a situation one would want to escape.

It sure sounds like sugaring, FWB and other various P4P are the way to go when you compare it to horror stories such as the ones in this thread and others.
 
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SoapFTW said:
Wow, fuck me. Literally the definition of damned if you do and damned if you don’t. That definitely sounds like a situation one would want to escape.

It sure sounds like sugaring, FWB and other various P4P are the way to go when you compare it to horror stories such as the ones in this thread and others.
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i think we discussed it in different threads but of course this is not just in Japan , nor only with mixed marriages for that matter... divorce rates are high everywhere and the classic marriage concept is slowly dying, imo.
What is really specific to Japan however is how much the GF-BF / married / parents phases are so clearly defined in terms of social roleplay, that it seems the status is more important than the personalities and the interactions within the couple.
I heard stories about Japanese spouses who were the perfect BF/GF and nearly overnight (or after the honeymoon at best) after the wedding completely changed their attitude , and it got even worse after the kids. Not just women, men too.
 
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Frenchy said:
i think we discussed it in different threads but of course this is not just in Japan , nor only with mixed marriages for that matter... divorce rates are high everywhere and the classic marriage concept is slowly dying, imo.
What is really specific to Japan however is how much the GF-BF / married / parents phases are so clearly defined in terms of social roleplay, that it seems the status is more important than the personalities and the interactions within the couple.
I heard stories about Japanese spouses who were the perfect BF/GF and nearly overnight (or after the honeymoon at best) after the wedding completely changed their attitude , and it got even worse after the kids. Not just women, men too.
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Yes to all of the above. Sometimes I wonder what my life would be like now if I’d married a western woman instead of Japanese, but with the way things are going nowadays I really have no idea. No use daydreaming about it now though, seeing how reality is what it is.
 
Frenchy said:
Not just women, men too.
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Indeed. There are many many girls out there whose husbands decided being a salary man and a provider for the family is more than enough so they skipped the husband part altogether.
 
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Rusty Trombone said:
Put your hand up if this has happened to you.

....Rusty raises his hand...
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In the US it just takes longer. For me the first few years were still sexy, then the pounds start packing on and then it tapered to once a month. Then less. Then ZERO.

The sad part in the US which u don’t get in Japan is u wouldn’t want to fuck her anyhow. They blow up like fucking balloons. It is depressing to land back in the US after traveling. It is like landing in the middle of a cattle farm. It’s fucking depressing.
 
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steve969696 said:
In the US it just takes longer. For me the first few years were still sexy, then the pounds start packing on and then it tapered to once a month. Then less. Then ZERO.

The sad part in the US which u don’t get in Japan is u wouldn’t want to fuck her anyhow. They blow up like fucking balloons. It is depressing to land back in the US after traveling. It is like landing in the middle of a cattle farm. It’s fucking depressing.
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I beg to disagree . Do you know the AC/DC’s song Whole Lotta Rosie? Thats what I got from my US (ex)GF. “Not exactly small” but best no-hold-barred raw-anything goes-passionate sex I ever had . And that’s including K-Pop here , who nearly suffocated a few valliant other TAG members
When American women want to get dirty, I think they are the best. But just one data point here.
 
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Frenchy said:
I beg to disagree . Do you know the AC/DC’s song Whole Lotta Rosie? Thats what I got from my US (ex)GF. “Not exactly small” but best no-hold-barred raw-anything goes-passionate sex I ever had . And that’s including K-Pop here , who nearly suffocated a few valliant other TAG members
When American women want to get dirty, I think they are the best. But just one data point here.
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Not saying all fat women don’t want to have sex nor that they aren’t good at it. Just saying it’s not uncommon for a woman to blow up after marriage and not wanna have sex. This is semi independent of the statement that there is an obesity epidemic in the US and it’s depressing.

And yes fat girls can bring the magic — maybe overcompensating. I went on my first Seeking date ever in Detroit and I knew she was a bit heavy but wow. She was freaking fat. But lovely face and a sweet girl. So I decided to press on — I mean I’d never been with a fat girl before but how bad could it be? Well she gave head like nobodies business and was a sexy sloppy mess downstairs. I didn’t try the cowgirl for fear of being crushed and we kept the lights pretty much off. But all in all it was very good. Repeated second night with pre-dinner BJ CIM swallow and dinner and round two. No complaints here.
 
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steve969696 said:
It is depressing to land back in the US after traveling.
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I had a friend move back to US end of last year after a decade in Japan and SE Asia. He was almost crying when we talked about the girls here and commented "from now on if I want a girl who is less than 60 kgs I need to start hanging out in front of the kindergarten". :eek::D
 
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Hummmm

Hellotokyo69 said:
Not to kink shame or anything but I think you’re a little too into it my friend and like Mike mentioned earlier I think your concept of sugaring is just longer hours at a cheaper rate but an escort in every other sense of the word.
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That the reason when is Sugaring need keep your price high.
We already know that often they look for long- hours cheap sex.

The real SD enjoy date and often spoiled with gift. The are not looking for only sex.
 
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SoapFTW said:
Thanks Mike.

A list I'd be happier to not be #1 on, but still...a win's a win! lol

That's my plan, at least as long as we're in Japan.

I'll answer the second question first - No, it isn't. Which is why I use my overseas savings to fund my exploits. I'm the only one with access to that money, and it's kind of "out of sight, out of mind" for her so she almost never asks about it. I don't think she realizes I can use my card from that bank to access it at ATMs in Japan. Long may her ignorance last. If she ever does ask, I'll tell her I gambled it at pachinko.
As for the first question, depending on the person they might see my answer as either simple or complicated. I'll do my best to be brief, so I guess the essence of the situation is firstly the repetition of the soaplands, i.e enter / pay / go to room / bath, toothbrush, etc. / fuck / leave, with some conversation thrown in. I wish I could vary the place and activities a bit more. Secondly, as naive as it sounds, after I find a lady I (seem to) click with, I find myself just wanting to see more of her, much like before I was married and when I would meet a new girl and try to pursue her. Basically I fall for them easily. The most frustrating thing is that I know those feelings are at least 99% guaranteed to be only one way (from me to her). I honestly just wish I could be in a relationship where we both appreciate each other, want to be together, and fulfil each other's needs to the best of our mutual abilities. That's what I stupidly thought my marriage would continue to be even after kids, that we would continue to put each other first(-ish). A year ago when I started P4P I was at the end of a 7 or 8 month dry spell (once wifey got pregnant with our second and last child, she shut her legs tighter than a clam), so the sex alone was deliriously good for me at soaplands. Now, I guess I just want more.


Thank you. I hope it does, and I'm doing all I can think of, but I think it's all in vain now. She literally told me just about a month ago that (1) She doesn't see me as a "lover" or "husband", but just as another family member, and (2) I'm so fat that she's embarrassed to be seen in public with me (which I think is a bit unfair. Yes, I've put on a bit of weight, but only because I'm working my ass off to support her and build a future for us and the kids while also helping a lot at home. For the record, I'm just over 6ft tall and I weigh about 100kg, but I have been working out for a number of years too. Working out less nowadays, but I guess the foundation is there).
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Chubby man are Yummy !!:love:

Honestly she is rude... I can’t believe how she can be such mean person.
 
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Personally I think some girls like me, they prefere sugaring because you meet same person usually constantly .

Also, you start get more involved emotionally with SD ( not in love must of time) and if the man is intelligent and supportive you can have opportunity to learn.

Although, Sometime ppm is fine but SD will be in my priority list because I have expectation ( because monthly meeting ) that he will see me again.
 
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sugarcatwhite said:
Personally I think some girls like me, they prefere sugaring because you meet same person usually constantly .

Also, you start get more involved emotionally with SD ( not in love must of time) and if the man is intelligent and supportive you can have opportunity to learn.

Although, Sometime ppm is fine but SD will be in my priority list because I have expectation ( because monthly meeting ) that he will see me again.
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Absolutely prefer SD including PPM because of the relationship aspect. I stay in touch with many of my PPMs and just chat from time to time.

And I have two girls in NYC where for whatever reason we couldn’t align for a date but we remain penpals and tell each other about recent dates or some struggle they are going thru. One just recently sent me her resume (she trusts me now after chatting so long) and I edited and improved it immensely and sent it back. It’s nice having long distance female friends even tho we never hooked up.

I got happy thanksgiving greetings from 7 girls. It’s just nice to have this side social life. And my three girls set for Vegas we have been chatting for two months. I feel like I know them when I meet them. (They often have difficult backgrounds which I would never encounter in my primary life).
 
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Oh and my reply to this thread. Both escorting and sugar dating are fun. Escorting is easier, but more expensive. But I think I prefer sugar dating. With the right person it can develop into a real relationship in some ways.
 
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