TAG WARS: RISE OF THE FUCKTARDS (Overtourism and TAG 2025)

[Azrael88]

I'm just glad that on TAG people get shamed hard for being absolute fucktards. Most other English speaking online forums related to fuzoku seems to be full of pigs talking about how to get FS with DH girls, strategies for getting raw, and just talking about the girls as if they were subhuman.

Exactly why I choose to hang out here instead of the other cesspools. The quality of the folks on other sites are just pure shite.

 

[Alice]

More women are getting into sex work due to demand

More women are going into sex work because the country is getting poorer. If anything there is much less local demand than there used to be because the younger generation doesn't play hard like the older generation did. Foreigners are the only demand sustaining places like Yoshiwara.

 

[Alice]

and independent providers?

For our sakes I hope the tourism continues (although on a personal level I'm also sad about what it's going to Japan).
There has been times where it's been difficult for indies to support themselves with TAG alone or when it was quiet. Also it was challenging for new indies to get any business at all (you always have to prove yourself first, even now).
I think this has overall gotten a lot better.
There have definitely been some complaints about some of the clients but it has pros and cons imo. I feel like the first year after the pandemic the clients were the roughest for some reason, it has gotten better for me personally nowadays.
I also never thought I would see this demographic, when I started sugar dating and later on escorting I was very young and I had the typical "rich older men supporting me" view. When I joined TAG there were definitely many stereotype suave married older businessmen clients. While that would of course still happen from time to time, most clients are a bit younger than me nowadays which I would never have expected and most are inexperienced. Sometimes this works out well, sometimes less so. I'm glad that the std risk seems to be low though and that I don't seem to get the sex tourist clients. I definitely don't mind when guys are experienced mongers and have plenty of other appointments lined up during the trip, I think people know that with sex tourists I mean the ones described earlier in this thread who are rough and have strategies to go without condom and so on.

 

[qcryp]

While that would of course still happen from time to time, most clients are a bit younger than me nowadays which I would never have expected and most are inexperienced.

I think being in Japan is a huge part of that too tho. Just sort of stereotypical type of guy who goes to Japan in a way.

I also wonder if number of Americans are proportionally lopsided, which would be due to the legality of it in the US.

For me I actually preferred to be far from home to try it, and I think many others feel that way too.

 

[gaschdee]

I think being in Japan is a huge part of that too tho. Just sort of stereotypical type of guy who goes to Japan in a way.

I also wonder if number of Americans are proportionally lopsided, which would be due to the legality of it in the US.

Even outside the legality aspect, it's just affordable & accessible in Japan compared to the US. From what I've read a decent escort in a metropolis like San Fran or NYC can easily cost $1000 USD, and they'd also have to undergo some pretty intense screening to even be able to book due to providers protecting themselves against police stings.

Maybe I'm stereotyping hard, but I also imagine a lot of the younger American guys that come to Japan and dabble in P4P are also tech workers, which is a sector that's notorious for having a lot of socially awkward guys with money that struggle with their romantic life to begin with.

 

[dickissuehaver]

Maybe I'm stereotyping hard, but I also imagine a lot of the younger American guys that come to Japan and dabble in P4P are also tech workers, which is a sector that's notorious for having a lot of socially awkward guys with money that struggle with their romantic life to begin with.

Anecdotally, the American / western guys that I know that have partaken in fuzoku are either 1) fratty types that do it once to impress their friends or whatever, who probably would've gone to Thailand in the past but tourism in Japan is insanely trendy atm, or 2) people who are active in the softer forms of mizu shōbai (bars, clubs, general nightlife, etc) who do it more regularly. All of my software engineer friends who've visited have been too scared / shy to try lol, even when I tell them I'll go with them to a soapland and handle the communication with the store staff and everything

 

[okayspot]

As someone that has been mongering here for decades at this point:

It may be because my Japanese has improved to closer to native, but Shops feel far more foreigner friendly to me than they use to be.

Campus group rejected me outright at first like 10 years ago. Took a lot of back and forth to get in and then they set me in a chair which they could watch the entire time, Apparently first foreigner to go there, now it is not rare to see other foreigner customers at same time.

Lots of NO with hands in a dame x, 10 years+ back, not even letting me speak.

Different topi :

I don't watch Japan content creators, is there really "JAPANESE SEX INDUSTRY!! CRAZY" heavily view videos that people think caused a spike in sex tourism?

Assumed it was just a matter of percentages with tourism heavily increased now

 

[Danbo]

I don't watch Japan content creators, is there really "JAPANESE SEX INDUSTRY!! CRAZY" heavily view videos that people think caused a spike in sex tourism?

A few years ago there was no coverage in English of this topic whatsoever so I think tourists stuck to Yoshieara and a few spots in Shinjuku etc.
I am not actively looking for content like this, but especially in recent years a lot of English videos were reposted here on TAG with interviews of providers in health shops etc....and there is also the cancer of guys filming girls working in the street without their consent.
Since these videos have thousands of views they for sure made tourists more aware of this industry. I think this kind exposure may have the most negative effect on the industry.

 

[fireman]

I went to Kabukicho yesterday and there were a bunch of foreign tourists taking selfies in front of the entrance to Madonna. Also noticed a couple of soaplands advertising "foreigners welcome" in English. The whole area feels trashier than ever, only now it's white trashy.

 

[Sudsy]

only now it's white trashy.

Hold up now, you can't say that until there's at least one car up on blocks and a drunk in a John Deere hat and a wifebeater sipping 'shine and complaining about libtards and immigrants.

(Oddly enough, this works for both sides of the Canada/US border)

 

[fireman]

TBH, I feel like I see more and more of those types in places like Kabukicho, Shibuya, Harajuku, etc. Morbidly obese, sloppily dressed, fucked up tattoos, the works.

 

[Sudsy]

TBH, I feel like I see more and more of those types in places like Kabukicho, Shibuya, Harajuku, etc. Morbidly obese, sloppily dressed, fucked up tattoos, the works.

But are they sitting on milk crates or hay bales? Doesn't count if they're sitting on chairs or standing.

 

[Alice]

For me I actually preferred to be far from home to try it, and I think many others feel that way too.

Yes, I even see Europeans who are from countries with plenty of affordable play options and similar looking girls like me.
But most people are not comfortable playing too close to home.

TBH, I feel like I see more and more of those types in places like Kabukicho, Shibuya, Harajuku, etc. Morbidly obese, sloppily dressed, fucked up tattoos, the works.

It's the newest Harajuku fashion

sipping 'shine

There is actually a show in Tokyo Disneyland with bears who are drinking moonshine.

I went to Kabukicho yesterday and there were a bunch of foreign tourists taking selfies in front of the entrance to Madonna. Also noticed a couple of soaplands advertising "foreigners welcome" in English. The whole area feels trashier than ever, only now it's white trashy.

I also passed a group tourists near Madonna recently and overheard one of the girls say "No name of one of the guys, we're not going in there."
Classic 😂

Anecdotally, the American / western guys that I know that have partaken in fuzoku are either 1) fratty types that do it once to impress their friends or whatever, who probably would've gone to Thailand in the past but tourism in Japan is insanely trendy atm, or 2) people who are active in the softer forms of mizu shōbai (bars, clubs, general nightlife, etc) who do it more regularly. All of my software engineer friends who've visited have been too scared / shy to try lol, even when I tell them I'll go with them to a soapland and handle the communication with the store staff and everything

Glad we're getting mostly the tech guys on TAG and maybe some of the second type guys. The frat boys sound annoying.

 

[dickissuehaver]

Glad we're getting mostly the tech guys on TAG and maybe some of the second type guys. The frat boys sound annoying.

I'm glad to hear that! I'd guess it's because people using TAG are mostly curious and competent enough to do proper research, qualities that frat stars are not usually known to possess in great quantities… lol

 

[Azrael88]

One thing I also noticed is that there seems to be more and more underground Chinese DH agencies (offering fuzoku/JAV ladies) operating out of Telegram etc, not just overseas but in Tokyo/Japan as well. They have always been around, but a bunch of new agencies have popped up over the last couple of years due to the sheer amount of mainland tourists.

 

[MrBananaJoe]

I'm glad to hear that! I'd guess it's because people using TAG are mostly curious and competent enough to do proper research, qualities that frat stars are not usually known to possess in great quantities… lol

TAG is the goat. At least as of now. I'm a newbie and I would not have tried it if not for my weeks lurking here. Previously, I've read comments in other places where there seems to be a lot of fucktards that just want to take advantage of the system or cause as much humiliation to the girl as possible. Plainly disgusting.

 

[kyngder]

Saw some real dumbasses doing selfies in front of Y-Shirt on Friday. Then they started taking pictures of the other shops and customers coming and going.

Earlier in the week groups of 3-4 guys were roaming together trying to get in somewhere but fortunately they were just shooed away. I was half tempted to point them toward the known gaijin NG places but even the racists don't deserve that … I think.

 

[Azrael88]

Fucktards forcing a girl to take a break due to injury.

 

[qcryp]

Fucktards forcing a girl to take a break due to injury.

And the shitty part is probably none of the offenders will read that tweet, or if they do happen to won't actually take it into consideration

 

[Jugemu]

Fucktards forcing a girl to take a break due to injury.

That is really abhorrent behavior. The message tries to tone things down with euphemisms, but the Japanese text makes it sound like, rather than a "lower abdomen inflammation", she was bleeding from her private parts while working, and she had to keep working. That's a form of hell right there.

I've been doing P4P for a while, but one of the things that never ceases to disappoint is how many men seem to lose their humanity when they meet a provider. Maybe it's because they hide behind a mask and it's only during P4P when it slips, but you'd think they might be aware of the abuse they inflict.

 

[bdole]

Fucktards forcing a girl to take a break due to injury.

Fucking porn-sick chuds thinking that everything they see on heavily produced porn is "normal". Choking, spanking to the point of marking, biting, twisting nipples to the point of pain, sticking it in dry, "oops wrong hole", etc...

Way too many guys think these are all "normal" parts of sex, and it shows if you talk to women, both working girls or not.

 

[JohnyW]

https://japantoday.com/category/fea...e-in-Tokyo-booming-thanks-to-inbound-visitors

3 days ago

 

[fireman]

Fucking porn-sick chuds thinking that everything they see on heavily produced porn is "normal". Choking, spanking to the point of marking, biting, twisting nipples to the point of pain, sticking it in dry, "oops wrong hole", etc...

Way too many guys think these are all "normal" parts of sex, and it shows if you talk to women, both working girls or not.

 

[Sudsy]

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[Chorizo]

As with most other things in life, the answer is education. It won't completely cure the problem, but mitigate…to a certain margin…I think it can. I actually think TAG is better at this than most other forums of similar coverage. Which is reason for me to keep coming back even after people trash me for my attempted sarcasm.

So keep using the forum to educate folks who simply don't know certain aspects of things in Japan. You won't fix the fucktards who think providers are their paid-for possession and other such idiots. But you can help those who fuck up simply because they did not know any better.

Of course it's your choice if you do want to help someone learn something and fix some behaviors or simply tell them to GTF back to Narita.