UK couple heading to Tokyo

[ForeignVoyeurs]

We are going to be in Japan for a few weeks soon and we've decided to take the opportunity to explore ourselves, our sexuality and Japanese Culture.

We've thought about Love Hotels (any good recommendations would be welcome) but we want to experiment. She wants to play with another women and doesn't mind me indulging too. We're not sure how we feel about men being involved yet but I guess we'll see what happens.

Any recommendations? Tips and advice would obviously be helpful.

Also I'll be alone for a bit too while she does business. Can anyone recommend safe strip clubs or places for me to watch people have sex?

Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.

Also our Japanese is limited to basic phrases which has usually been enough to get us by.

 

[Babaram]

Japan's commercial sex is mostly centered on men. Couples as customers have yet to be discovered. If you want a foursome, I suggest to book one of the escorts on TAG, and ask her to bring a friend.

You will not be able to watch people having sex in a strip show. A practical solution is to go to a Swing club ("Happening Bar") such as Bliss. There is a lot of watching going on.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

Japan's commercial sex is mostly centered on men. Couples as customers have yet to be discovered. If you want a foursome, I suggest to book one of the escorts on TAG, and ask her to bring a friend.

You will not be able to watch people having sex in a strip show. A practical solution is to go to a Swing club ("Happening Bar") such as Bliss. There is a lot of watching going on.

I'm kind of a laymen but could an opportunity exist within a HB/Couples Kissa? Depending on the people there I guess. Or is that straight up full swinging? We're both not sure what our limits are yet so this is kind of a chance to just dive in.

Do traditional strip clubs even exist in Japan? With the amount of down time I have I wouldn't mind a tradition lap dance as long as it's reasonably priced and non-sleazy/a tourist trap. With Happening Bars it's more of just a Voyeur thing for me so I don't mind as long as the place is good and I get to watch people fuck.

I'll essentially be alone for a while and most of my friends no longer live in Japan so a variety of options wouldn't hurt.

 

[User#8628]

I'm kind of a laymen but could an opportunity exist within a HB/Couples Kissa? Depending on the people there I guess. Or is that straight up full swinging? We're both not sure what our limits are yet so this is kind of a chance to just dive in.

Do traditional strip clubs even exist in Japan? With the amount of down time I have I wouldn't mind a tradition lap dance as long as it's reasonably priced and non-sleazy/a tourist trap. With Happening Bars it's more of just a Voyeur thing for me so I don't mind as long as the place is good and I get to watch people fuck.

I'll essentially be alone for a while and most of my friends no longer live in Japan so a variety of options wouldn't hurt.

Bliss Out is definitely good for watching people and you can get in without Japanese skills. You don’t have to swing if you don’t want to. Its also common for couples to just play with each other and let other people watch, but you don’t HAVE to do anything if you’re too shy.
Threesome with only a single girl is unlikely in happening bars. Swinging would be possible, but for adding other people to the mix, single men are obviously most eager. (Again, you can just reject them.)

Stip clubs here usually don’t have lap dances. Some “international” ones in Roppongi do offer private dances but they are on the expensive side. Japanese strip clubs are quite affordable. You can watch a show, and there are extras like taking photos of the girl, or having the girl take tokens from your body (in arena) but its only very light physical contact, no lap grinding.

I don’t know if their take women, but “office” in kabuki cho is supposingly an oppai pub that accepts foreigners without Japanese ability and they do allow boob touch.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

Bliss Out is definitely good for watching people and you can get in without Japanese skills. You don’t have to swing if you don’t want to. Its also common for couples to just play with each other and let other people watch, but you don’t HAVE to do anything if you’re too shy.
Threesome with only a single girl is unlikely in happening bars. Swinging would be possible, but for adding other people to the mix, single men are obviously most eager. (Again, you can just reject them.)

Stip clubs here usually don’t have lap dances. Some “international” ones in Roppongi do offer private dances but they are on the expensive side. Japanese strip clubs are quite affordable. You can watch a show, and there are extras like taking photos of the girl, or having the girl take tokens from your body (in arena) but its only very light physical contact, no lap grinding.

I don’t know if their take women, but “office” in kabuki cho is supposingly an oppai pub that accepts foreigners without Japanese ability and they do allow boob touch.

I'll research Bliss Out since it seems the most accessible for our needs. I've heard good things about Olive21 and 9259 but I imagine the language barrier would be too strong? We're both not entirely sure where we stand with swinging or sharing with a male partner. The idea is a turn on to me and I want to see her happy. But obviously the reality might be different. I guess it depends on if there are other foreigners there at a time? It'd be easier to communicate our desires.

What are the key differences between a HB and a Couples Kissa? Japanese sex is so complex lol

Any recommendations for decent strip clubs? I'll definitely explore Bliss Out both alone and with my SO but some more options wouldn't hurt. It's a shame I don't know anybody over here who could help me out or show me the ropes. Japan is so vast that it can be pretty isolating.

 

[User#8628]

I'll research Bliss Out since it seems the most accessible for our needs. I've heard good things about Olive21 and 9259 but I imagine the language barrier would be too strong? We're both not entirely sure where we stand with swinging or sharing with a male partner. The idea is a turn on to me and I want to see her happy. But obviously the reality might be different. I guess it depends on if there are other foreigners there at a time? It'd be easier to communicate our desires.

What are the key differences between a HB and a Couples Kissa? Japanese sex is so complex lol

Any recommendations for decent strip clubs? I'll definitely explore Bliss Out both alone and with my SO but some more options wouldn't hurt. It's a shame I don't know anybody over here who could help me out or show me the ropes. Japan is so vast that it can be pretty isolating.

Difference between happening bad and couple kissa is that couple kissa only allows couples and HB also allows single males and females. I would not recommend going to a happing bar as a single male though since the price is higher than for a couple (man and woman combined) and the action you’ll be getting is less! If you can bring your partner, do so. If you want to do something without her, p4p is better. There is p4p available to couples but the choices are limited and prices are higher and the amound of service you will get is less since the girl has to divide her attention. For the price you spend as a single male to enter a HB, you can have a lower end p4p session, although language barreer may be a problem for those services.
9259 and Olive are frequented by foreigners but may be difficult for tourists. Of course there is never a guarantee any foreigners will be in the happening bar but i think Bliss Out has most foreigners and the bar staff seems to speak English so you have at least someone who can help you a bit.

For Japanese strip clubs, if you are ok with show and no touching, Rockza, XD or Nest would be good, if you want light touch (still no lapdance), Arena has a system with tokens that you can put money on the girl’s bra or panties or something.
Lapdance gonna be the costy places in Roppongi.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

Difference between happening bad and couple kissa is that couple kissa only allows couples and HB also allows single males and females. I would not recommend going to a happing bar as a single male though since the price is higher than for a couple (man and woman combined) and the action you’ll be getting is less! If you can bring your partner, do so. If you want to do something without her, p4p is better. There is p4p available to couples but the choices are limited and prices are higher and the amound of service you will get is less since the girl has to divide her attention. For the price you spend as a single male to enter a HB, you can have a lower end p4p session, although language barreer may be a problem for those services.
9259 and Olive are frequented by foreigners but may be difficult for tourists. Of course there is never a guarantee any foreigners will be in the happening bar but i think Bliss Out has most foreigners and the bar staff seems to speak English so you have at least someone who can help you a bit.

For Japanese strip clubs, if you are ok with show and no touching, Rockza, XD or Nest would be good, if you want light touch (still no lapdance), Arena has a system with tokens that you can put money on the girl’s bra or panties or something.
Lapdance gonna be the costy places in Roppongi.

Thanks for being so helpful and putting up with all my questions!

It's a shame that going to a HB as a solo male is so prohibitive. I generally just want to watch people have sex anonymously. Going with my partner should be a lot more fun. Even if we don't end up meeting anybody interesting I think having sex in front of strangers could be a huge turn on for us. It's a shame about Olive21 and 9259 as they sound like the best ones but the language barrier might be too much.

I'll check out Rockza, XD and Nest. Which ones are the most reasonable and affordable? I did read that in Rockza it is generally couples friendly.

Is Roppongi bad then? Coincidentally that is where I'll be staying while my partner is doing business.

I guess if we can fulfil one of these situations we'd be happy.
- Flirt with others/be in flirtatious situations
- Have sex in front of strangers
- watch strangers have sex
- Share partners (maybe)
- watch my partner play with a women (and her watching one play with me)
- (me alone) watch attractive women strip/dance/bbbj/cts

 

[Katie Kinako]

9259 can be lots of fun! Sleeping Beauty in Shibuya can be fun, too. Happy to help out if you need a co-pilot in one of your excursions- I speak Japanese fluently and used to work at a fetish bar

 

[User#8628]

It's a shame that going to a HB as a solo male is so prohibitive. I generally just want to watch people have sex anonymously.

That wouldn’t be a problem, thats what most single males end up doing there and its allowed. Bliss Out is best for viewing rooms, i think.
But it will be more expensive than visiting with your partner.

 

[User#8628]

Is Roppongi bad then? Coincidentally that is where I'll be staying while my partner is doing business.

Roppongi is pricey.

 

[User#8628]

I guess if we can fulfil one of these situations we'd be happy.
- Flirt with others/be in flirtatious situations
- Have sex in front of strangers
- watch strangers have sex
- Share partners (maybe)
- watch my partner play with a women (and her watching one play with me)
- (me alone) watch attractive women strip/dance/bbbj/cts

Those are reasonable goals and you’ll probably be able to do (almost) all.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

9259 can be lots of fun! Sleeping Beauty in Shibuya can be fun, too. Happy to help out if you need a co-pilot in one of your excursions- I speak Japanese fluently and used to work at a fetish bar

Seriously? That would be so helpful and take a lot of the stress and pressure off. Can I contact you closer to the time and arrange something?

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

That wouldn’t be a problem, thats what most single males end up doing there and its allowed. Bliss Out is best for viewing rooms, i think.
But it will be more expensive than visiting with your partner.

With Kinako's incredibly kind offer this issue could be resolved at least while I test the waters.

Roppongi is pricey.

Even though I'm staying in Roppongi I'll definitely travel around.

Those are reasonable goals and you’ll probably be able to do (almost) all.

I genuinely hope so. To be honest if even one of these things happened I would be a really lucky guy. Plus the thought of sharing these experiences with my partner is both rewarding and a huge turn on.

Thanks again Alice you have been amazing help. Hopefully by the end of our trip I'll be able to be able to do a huge write up on how it went.

 

[e-smile]

I'm kind of a laymen but could an opportunity exist within a HB/Couples Kissa? Depending on the people there I guess. Or is that straight up full swinging? We're both not sure what our limits are yet so this is kind of a chance to just dive in.

Do traditional strip clubs even exist in Japan? With the amount of down time I have I wouldn't mind a tradition lap dance as long as it's reasonably priced and non-sleazy/a tourist trap. With Happening Bars it's more of just a Voyeur thing for me so I don't mind as long as the place is good and I get to watch people fuck.

I'll essentially be alone for a while and most of my friends no longer live in Japan so a variety of options wouldn't hurt.

There are a few girl to girl action in happening bars, first time I went to Sleeping Beauty with my gf she played with a couple of girls. We did have a threesome there with a girl and I also had it when I went alone last Saturday so I wouldn't say it's unlikely to happen.
She had also some girl to girl interaction during a two couples action in another happening bar called 9259. You can also have your voyeur thing there and enjoy the atmosphere.
I also went there as a single and I definitely enjoyed my time, even talking with other guys is a lot of fun there.

 

[User#8628]

9259. You can also have your voyeur thing there and enjoy the atmosphere.
I also went there as a single and I definitely enjoyed my time, even talking with other guys is a lot of fun there.

I also think that the crowd in 9259 is very friendly and chatty. Probably more so than in other HBs though everyone is always nice enough everywhere i’ve been.
Last time i went to 9259 i was asked to show my Japanese insurance card even though I had my membership card with me. So it might be hard for tourists to get in.
Bliss out did not ask for a health insurance card.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

There are a few girl to girl action in happening bars, first time I went to Sleeping Beauty with my gf she played with a couple of girls. We did have a threesome there with a girl and I also had it when I went alone last Saturday so I wouldn't say it's unlikely to happen.
She had also some girl to girl interaction during a two couples action in another happening bar called 9259. You can also have your voyeur thing there and enjoy the atmosphere.
I also went there as a single and I definitely enjoyed my time, even talking with other guys is a lot of fun there.

That's great to hear. Hopefully we'll get lucky. I'm glad the atmosphere in these places is positive and friendly. I guess the only worry was it'd be seedy and we'd have an unpleasant experience.

 

[e-smile]

I also think that the crowd in 9259 is very friendly and chatty. Probably more so than in other HBs though everyone is always nice enough everywhere i’ve been.
Last time i went to 9259 i was asked to show my Japanese insurance card even though I had my membership card with me. So it might be hard for tourists to get in.
Bliss out did not ask for a health insurance card.

They are indeed and the staff is great but it's usually less crowded than SB.
Now that you say that it's true that they ask for the insurance card in both 9259 and SB, I don't know if they'd do an exception for tourists.

 

[e-smile]

That's great to hear. Hopefully we'll get lucky. I'm glad the atmosphere in these places is positive and friendly. I guess the only worry was it'd be seedy and we'd have an unpleasant experience.

The staff is there to makes sure no one disrespects other people's boundaries and there are rules to respect, but people are usually regulars and they behave without intervention.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

The staff is there to makes sure no one disrespects other people's boundaries and there are rules to respect, but people are usually regulars and they behave without intervention.

You said before you had an experience with your GF interacting with another girl. How did that initiate? Were they foreign girls or Japanese? Most of my ideas of Japanese girl on girl is via porn so I have no idea if that's how they behave IRL especially with a white girl.

(Can't wait to find out tho)

 

[e-smile]

You said before you had an experience with your GF interacting with another girl. How did that initiate? Were they foreign girls or Japanese? Most of my ideas of Japanese girl on girl is via porn so I have no idea if that's how they behave IRL especially with a white girl.

(Can't wait to find out tho)

She's Japanese, first time it was with a Korean girl and the other times it was with fellow Japanese girls.
She's bi so it was quite natural for her and it was natural for them too as we all were having good time chatting and drinking together first.

Porn in general, not only Japanese, doesn't reflect reality. If we refer to US porn I can just do pizza delivery and have sex directly and without much chitchat with any random housewife
Most porn we know is made for men, and Japanese porn is made for Japanese men and what Japanese men want to see is not necessarily what they are used to see in real life.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

She's Japanese, first time it was with a Korean girl and the other times it was with fellow Japanese girls.
She's bi so it was quite natural for her and it was natural for them too as we all were having good time chatting and drinking together first.

Porn in general, not only Japanese, doesn't reflect reality. If we refer to US porn I can just do pizza delivery and have sex directly and without much chitchat with any random housewife
Most porn we know is made for men, and Japanese porn is made for Japanese men and what Japanese men want to see is not necessarily what they are used to see in real life.

My misses has had sex with girls before so hopefully that part will be "easy" I guess the most daunting part will be actually going to a club. It's kinda scary and exciting at the same time.

Haha, you're right. A lot of Japanese lesbian porn has that weird tongue sucking/kissing so it kinda coloured my not knowing to expect. Cultural differences and all that.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

Woo! I'm in Japan. Going to explore a few places like Osaka before I settle in Tokyo.

Super excited.

 

[MongerInAStrLnd]

Haha, you're right. A lot of Japanese lesbian porn has that weird tongue sucking/kissing so it kinda coloured my not knowing to expect. Cultural differences and all that.

Its not just the lesbian stuff. And don't knock it til you try it. Can be incredible with the right partner.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

Its not just the lesbian stuff. And don't knock it til you try it. Can be incredible with the right partner.

You only live once eh? I'll keep an open mind and try anything once.

 

[ForeignVoyeurs]

We are finally in Tokyo!

Time to start exploring.