whats the difference between chatting up women - and PUA

[owlet]

im kind of torn.. i think going out, meeting people, socialising, one night stands etc is cool - as long as you are both on the same page, and your doing it with a honest heart (not being dishonest or manipulative) .. how is that different from PUA (or is it)?

is there a difference between "good game" and PUA? If so what is different?

is it to do with intention?

or "techniques"?

Is PUA preying on the emotional instability of young women?

for the women, im sure there are sometimes you just want to be fucked, maybe you are feeling lonely etc and want someone whilst you are single and dont really care too much about it.. do you feel good about it afterwards? how much collateral damage is there?

sorry for dragging this one up again lol

 

[CharlieSimms]

Perhaps indeed the proverbial dead horse beating on TAG. I am not a PUA by any stretch but do have respect for an acknowledgement and understanding of social conditioning and the will and desire for self-betterment to achieve the results one wants in life. One could argue such a focused pursuit of PSY is a lower level application of these techniques of breaking out of the matrix so to speak, but would be a bit ironic of an objection especially in this forum. I think the subject of whether all PUAs trick and deceive and take advantage of has been rehashed over and over and many examples offered that that isn't always the case. It's a tool I perceive like any other - depends who is using it.

 

[User#8628]

im kind of torn.. i think going out, meeting people, socialising, one night stands etc is cool - as long as you are both on the same page, and your doing it with a honest heart (not being dishonest or manipulative) .. how is that different from PUA (or is it)?

is there a difference between "good game" and PUA? If so what is different?

is it to do with intention?

or "techniques"?

Is PUA preying on the emotional instability of young women?

for the women, im sure there are sometimes you just want to be fucked, maybe you are feeling lonely etc and want someone whilst you are single and dont really care too much about it.. do you feel good about it afterwards? how much collateral damage is there?

sorry for dragging this one up again lol

Do i feel good about one night stands? Well, i want to feel like a winner as well. So i dont like feeling tricked and used.
But if a guy is my type then i actually feel like i really gained something from the encounter.
I dont feel bad if he acts normal, ignoring me the next day and trying to "escape" is a no go. (I had one one night stand like that a long time ago. Nobody has ever treated me that badly and i still get mad if i think of it.)

That said, i dont have many one night stands.

 

[Sinapse]

im kind of torn.. i think going out, meeting people, socialising, one night stands etc is cool - as long as you are both on the same page, and your doing it with a honest heart (not being dishonest or manipulative) .. how is that different from PUA (or is it)?

is there a difference between "good game" and PUA? If so what is different?

is it to do with intention?

or "techniques"?

Is PUA preying on the emotional instability of young women?

Everybody has some form of "game", but most don't really think about it very consciously / seriously, and few take the time to actually work on it. Some people just "get it" really naturally.

You could think of it like breathing. Everybody breathes, but yogis can alter their heart rate, blood pressure, and even their body temperature to rather extreme degrees simply by focusing consciously on something others take for granted - their breath. Musicians and and singers also learn to maximize their breath. Similarly, gamers take a conscious, deliberate approach to human interaction and try to improve themselves in this arena.

Anyway, there's nothing particularly different in my opinion other than how much you think about it and actively try to improve / work on it. Some people want to get better, others have other priorities.

As for manipulation / dishonesty, I think it's pretty simple:

If youre a dishonest guy, you'll be dishonest with or without game. If you're an honest guy, you'll be honest with or without game as well.

 

[owlet]

Everybody has some form of "game", but most don't really think about it very consciously / seriously, and few take the time to actually work on it. Some people just "get it" really naturally.

You could think of it like breathing. Everybody breathes, but yogis can alter their heart rate, blood pressure, and even their body temperature to rather extreme degrees simply by focusing consciously on something others take for granted - their breath. Musicians and and singers also learn to maximize their breath. Similarly, gamers take a conscious, deliberate approach to human interaction and try to improve themselves in this arena.

Anyway, there's nothing particularly different in my opinion other than how much you think about it and actively try to improve / work on it. Some people want to get better, others have other priorities.

As for manipulation / dishonesty, I think it's pretty simple:

If youre a dishonest guy, you'll be dishonest with or without game. If you're an honest guy, you'll be honest with or without game as well.

which kind of guy gets laid more? Lol

 

[Sinapse]

which kind of guy gets laid more? Lol

Rappers.