Women Who Are Bad At Sex

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  1. Solong

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    Over the years, I've collected a lot of data on women from dating, conversations, and being in Swinger circles. Among the most interesting is the difference between women that are good at sex, versus women who are bad at it. It's a very difficult situation for many men to meet a very pretty woman, that is horrible at sex, and try to teach her or make corrections. Here is a list of characteristics that women that are bad at sex often have:

    1) The opinion or arrogant attitude that being naked and laying there is enough, aka 'dead fish'

    Women like this often need to get a clue and perhaps need to watch some porn. Often they don't have any idea about how to do sex, thus they lay down and play dead.

    They can think they are being "good girls", when in fact they are just plain bad.

    2) Unwillingness to try anything new sexually

    This is sadly too common. What is even weirder, you can suggest to certain women to try something new and she will continually REFUSE, then become surprised when the guy cheats or dumps her. Like what did you expect the guy to eventually do?

    Among the top male requests that women bad at sex refuse: anal, lingerie, doggy style, outside sex... Of course the list can get extremely long and the refusal of anything beyond the missionary position.

    3) All kinds of guilt, body image problems, insecurities, weird fears, paranoia, mental problems about sex

    Some women have severe anxiety about being naked, because they think guys want perfect bodies. So if their breasts are small, nipples big, butt a bit flat, etc... they don't want to get naked or act nutty. At times a guy has to become a psychologist to help reassure such women, but NOT every guy wants to waste time doing this. If a woman seems too crazy or insecure, many guys will walk.

    4) Having no flexibility with her legs, in ability to open her legs.

    This is a major hidden problem and the cause of bad sex for a lot of women. They need to stretch or take some Yoga classes. Because they have no flexibility, sex can become uncomfortable, quickly tiring, or make their legs sore. Women who are flexible are usually very fun and exciting to be with, while stiff and inflexible women are the opposite.

    5) Squeezing her legs together tightly and uncomfortably, and thinking that makes for a tight vagina.

    Some women don't know what vaginal muscle control is, and think squeezing their legs tightly together will make their vagina tight. Ah, NO it does NOT! Women like this often cause awkwardness and weirdness, as the guy tries to open her legs, and she is trying to squeeze and prevents the guy from moving or pumping.

    6) Squeezing the vagina muscles too tightly. Inability to relax.

    Such women often have weird mental issues about the tightness of their vagina that they take it to the most EXTREME. They incorrectly think that JUST squeezing their vagina means good sex for all men. This can be to the extent that penile penetration is extremely difficult and the woman's vagina hurts after a short time due to FRICTION or damage from the penis trying to get entry. Often women squeezing their vagina muscles excessively, can't do sex for long and complain of pain. Such women haven't learned that vaginal muscle control works 2 ways. RELAX and tighten, OPEN and close.

    7) Loose vagina

    The opposite of the above (too tight vagina) is the loose vagina. This is NOT usually a problem, unless the man has a very small penis and it's less of a problem for women that can do ANAL sex. In this situation, it's hard to say if the problem is the guy being small or the woman having no muscle control whatsoever. The key here being if the woman is unable to control her vaginal muscles at all. This is easy to check. Can the woman feel her vagina squeeze around 2 fingers, an average size dildo, or penis?

    8) Very awkward and clumsy movement, no sense of rhythm

    This is one of the MOST DIFFICULT problems to correct. The woman having no sense of rhythm and moving very clumsily in bed. Many times, this is due to lack of sexual practice. It can also be because the woman gets excessively nervous, or never played sports or did dancing when they were younger, so didn't develop a sense of rhythm. Over time and with lots of practice, some women improve, but can the guy tolerate such clumsiness for a long period of time?

    9) Fake sounds, over the top noises and screams, or dead silence

    Guys who have experience with many women, often can tell the difference between real and fake sounds. Nothing more annoying than the feeling the woman is bullshitting or an actress. The flip, can be dead silence, and a possible cause is the woman is afraid to express herself sexually. Natural and honest sounds of pleasure are the best.

    10) Non-sex related activities, during sex

    The worse offenders I have ever seen or heard about are heavy smokers and prostitutes playing with their phones and texting or calling other customers. A pro playing with the phone is plain disrespect and demand a discount or call her agency and complain. If this is a non-P4P or girlfriend doing this, time to strongly consider dumping her. If a woman seems like she can't go without a cigarette for 15 minutes and smokes excessively, be warned that this very bad habit may carry over into the bed.

    11) Bad blow jobs, biting the penis

    I think this is a true litmus test of how much a woman likes penis and how dedicated she is to being good at sex. Size of the mouth, size of her hands, and usually size of the penis isn't the main factor. Even if a woman can't deep throat (which takes dedicated practice), she can at least suck the head of the penis (no matter how small her mouth is). I've also met women of the same height and mouth size, where one woman says deep throating is impossible, while the other does it easily.

    12) The false belief that all other woman are equally bad at sex

    Women that are bad at sex, can often think that "normal" sex means being bad at sex or that all other women are as equally horrible at sex as her.

    A curious verbal indicator that a woman may be horrible at sex, is when she insists or says something like, "I only do/have normal sex.". This actually often means that the woman doesn't understand that sexual variety and diversity IS NORMAL, so she is very limited and clueless. She may not realize what other women CAN and ARE DOING.
     
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    Sadly, a lot of women allow anti-sexual programming from parents, society, or a religion to almost totally destroy their sexuality. Then there are those that have all types of body issues, even if most guys would say they look great and like their body. The combination of anti-sex programming and body issues can make for some really mentally screwed up women, even if pretty.

    A guy, if you like her and want to be patient, will sometimes have to play psychologist a bit. That's unfortunate, as the average guy is not nor wants to be. But there can be nearly no choice, if the relationship will progress.

    Talking with her and figuring out what is wrong with her is a possible solution. Try to get her relaxed and comfortable, as is sanely and humanly possible.
     
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    Yup, just requires some communication to see what she wants and what turns her on. Glad it worked out for ya.
     
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    I disagree about that in general. Some women have severe mental issues concering sex, their body, or are just plain bad at it.

    Communication helps, but more in the context of clarify what's wrong. Communication doesn't necessarily fix the problem or a guy having to decide if he wants to become an amateur psychologist.
     
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    Well, personally I don't care if a girl isn't very good in this area.
    For me, sex isn't a sport.
    It's a way to exchange some physical feelings and I don't care about the intensity.
    I can be satisfied by skin to skin contact only.

    And I also don't understand guys who don't show some patience.

    Some girls can do wonders if you know how to lead them.

    Just saying :)
     
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    I got some interesting information from here.
     
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    @Scotty

    Something that I learned from swinging that isn't common knowledge, is it's best to do a lot of wild or kinky sex at the BEGINNING of a relationship.

    Not necessarily the 1st night, but DEFINITELY within 2 weeks. The longer after the first week that you wait, the HARDER or more DIFFICULT changing the usual sexual routine becomes.

    The reason why is many women tend to lock into bad sexual habits, particularly LAZY or BORING ones.

    When you do wild or kinky sex from the beginning, it forms the basis of the woman not worrying about presenting a fake image to her guy. She can be herself OR is no longer worried about you judging her negatively. Wild and kinky becomes part of things they can or may do, so sex in the relationship is more imaginative and adventurous.

    I've known and seen many guys complain about girlfriends or wives and having massive problems getting them to do: swinging, anal sex, wearing lingerie, outdoor sex, deep throating a penis, etc... Anything adventurous or requiring skill, their girlfriends/wives were too resistant, negative, or lazy to try. Guys went through extreme battles to the extent I was feeling sad for them.

    Way too many guys start in relationships where the sex is bad or unsatisfactory, then make the mistake of thinking they can change her later.

    And change, with her, may never happen or sex is never quite fully satisfying. Lots of women don't get it, they think being pretty and laying on the bed like their dead is enough. No dedication to developing their skill at sex or exploring sexuality.
     
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    Good to see. Better sex is more satisfying.
     
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    I think fear of losing the woman, lack of options, and the "scarcity mentality" is why men are often too fearful to ask or insist women do anything different or fun.

    1) The prettier she is, the worse she can be, and guys are afraid of asking anything.

    2) But not just pretty is a problem, as woman that are BAD at sex can get their hooks into a guy emotionally. Thus guilt tripping guys to stay with them or trying to get pregnant and force the relationship.

    It's like women that are bad at sex know guys will (and have in the past) will run from them, so they have to find some emotional hook to keep guys. I've also notice the tactic of them DELAYING having sex, to try to push the guy into INVESTING in them emotionally. All kinds of bullshit drama to cover their defect or emotional flaw, which is bad sex.

    Way too many men suffer in silence and even try using porn to satisfy themselves. The real woman next to them has become near worthless or boring them out their minds.

    A man, who wants higher sexually functioning women, has be willing to dump those that can't perform.

    As a man, you have to demand better and push the envelope, to get better.
     
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    Thanks for the inerrant read guys.

    @Solong if you don't mind me asking how did you get into the swinging lifestyle? I'd you do please ignore as I don't want to offend.
     
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    Bad marriage. Ex-wife was very tall and pretty, but terrible at sex and stubborn as a mule (actually, more than). One of those women that seemed so sweet at first, then turned into an absolute dragon lady later on. Sex wasn't the only problem, but I was bored to tears and very depressed, work stress and a broken marriage wasn't helping.

    Decided life has to be better than being a stressed out work slave, who gives cash to an ungrateful argumentative and manipulative nut job. So said "Fuck this bullshit. " Therefore decided to go enjoy life. Divorced the wife. One of those nasty divorces, by the way.

    Accidentally met up with a swinger couple that had been married for 15 years and as happy as you could be. I had no clue and was totally against the idea at first. We had numerous debates on the subject. But was intrigued by their happiness, which was the opposite of anything I knew about sexuality. I thought couples were suppose to be jealous, selfish, and drama creating homicidal maniacs.

    They schooled me on the ways of swingers, and yes he gave me his wife to enjoy. I then started meeting up with other swingers, and started to learn how to form those style relationships. Also met up with a couple of highly skilled swinger naturals, who were absolute masters at pickup and understanding the unacknowledged reality of female sexuality.

    Never looked back and been enjoying life a lot more ever since.
     
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    WOW that's a way to get into it, but hey as long as you find happiness. Sounds like you are having fun. maybe someday for me. Lol
     

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