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  1. Solong

    Do You Guys Mention That You Are Expecting Intimacy When You Are Talking To A Potential Sugar Bb

    But, there is controversy about guys doing such. Though it can be uncomfortable to bring this out to the surface, we shouldn't avoid the reality of different situations. 1) A guy doesn't need to pay to talk to women If a guys feels compelled to, it can be that he's highly insecure or very...
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    Do You Guys Mention That You Are Expecting Intimacy When You Are Talking To A Potential Sugar Bb

    I understand better of where you are coming from. However, no matter how stunning the woman is, I personally wouldn't go beyond the 1st date if a "sexual deal" can't or isn't worked out. Because the woman is likely confused or engaging in time wasting or attention-whoring antics. Even if no...
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    Do You Guys Mention That You Are Expecting Intimacy When You Are Talking To A Potential Sugar Bb

    So, what are you paying approximately for these sugar-baby dinner dates? And around how many hours per date?
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    Do You Guys Mention That You Are Expecting Intimacy When You Are Talking To A Potential Sugar Bb

    So, you are going to pay a sugar-baby around 1,500 dollars (150,000 yen) for 3 dates (or whatever) to her for FREE and the privilege of her rejecting you? Or, wasting your time, when it could have been spent on someone else, on let's say 3 dinner dates totally at your expense?
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    Dipping My Toe In The Sugar Lake - And Striking Out

    It's also known as a "sucker price" (deal or rate) in business. An excessively high price that only someone who knows nothing and/or is a fool would accept. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sucker's+deal
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    Dipping My Toe In The Sugar Lake - And Striking Out

    I believe it's in the nature of online dating in general. Doesn't matter which website. Have all kinds of stories with seekingarrangements, OkCupid, Tinder, etc... Most online dates, actually go well. However, there is always a certain percentage. I put this as more, as the nature of doing...
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    Dipping My Toe In The Sugar Lake - And Striking Out

    I don't think this is specfic to sugar-babies, but a problem with online dates in general. This is crazy or scammer type women. Not all women are like that, but you will run into such. For women, the amount of attention they get from guys, allows them to perpetuate higher levels of abuse...
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    Dipping My Toe In The Sugar Lake - And Striking Out

    I think you are misunderstanding, perhaps purposely so, how it works. So will explain further. This methodology was also posted in Nampa/Pua, referred to Date Stacking. The purpose is protection against flakes, pranks, and no-shows. 1) Date on different days This is quite easy to do...
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    Dipping My Toe In The Sugar Lake - And Striking Out

    I believe the habit of last minute canceling and being flaky is a really horrible game played by too many Japanese. From years of observation, I believe this is much more prevalent in Japan than in other countries. I have lived a bit and visited Korea and Taiwan, and this flake game isn't...
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    Men are aging at the same rate as women. The future is not guaranteed, and in fact men die younger than women on average. And many guys have lost their fortunes or jobs. When the money went, in numerous cases, the women left too. There are an equal amount or arguably even more stories of...
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    There is a problem, that is not being factored, where the sugar-baby may jump to another relationship more easily. More so than the man, because she isn't investing financial resources and is less vulnerable in terms of not being married and worried about being exposed. "The grass is always...
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    Universe Club From A Girl's Perspective, Worth It Or A Waste Of Time?

    I understand what you are saying, but it doesn't work, where every woman sees herself as the highest virtual gold queen and demands or deserves top dollar from the highest ranking man. Nor is every woman providing the highest level service. Yes, some people hit big pay days gambling or playing...
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    Universe Club From A Girl's Perspective, Worth It Or A Waste Of Time?

    I think that perhabs a woman might want to be careful about such thinking. A person can overlook things or hurt themselves by limiting their options. It might not be obvious to them at first, but be something realized or regretted much later. And for every woman, the guy(s) with or seem to...
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    Universe Club From A Girl's Perspective, Worth It Or A Waste Of Time?

    I agree with you to an extent, but I'm concerned about the definition of mutal beneficial. What I'm referring to is that both the man and woman are getting what they want out of the interaction or relationship, which can be beyond money or sex. In my experiences and talking with the...
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    Universe Club From A Girl's Perspective, Worth It Or A Waste Of Time?

    But if the woman has different goals, perhabs it's better to view it in that context. For instance, one woman is highly focused on pulling the maximum amount of money from men, where the other woman is more interested in forming lasting relationships with compensated fun. In the latter, the...
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    Universe Club From A Girl's Perspective, Worth It Or A Waste Of Time?

    Forgive the appearance of naivete on my part, but the goal is to find the richest man? And if that is not the case, what do view as an acceptable yearly salary for a man to support you in the way and lifestyle that you so desire?
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    Can Anybody Explain These Behaviours? Mentally Challenged Or Just Plain Jerks?

    Wow, I thought guys up here had money or are big spenders. Surprised to hear the attempt to cheat you. Feel sorry for you being in that situation. This is what I partially mean about business and pleasure. If it's business, and you are just selling your body, the mindset has to...
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    Can Anybody Explain These Behaviours? Mentally Challenged Or Just Plain Jerks?

    I can understand such thinking, to an extent. Don't worry, I'm not your judge or jury. Do what is best for you. I'm just pointing out what is summed up by the popular expression, "Don't mix business with pleasure." Can create a lot of confusion.
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    Can Anybody Explain These Behaviours? Mentally Challenged Or Just Plain Jerks?

    Yes, sugar dating usually means more interaction and communication with the paying customer. But this is usually pretense and a facade, rather than real love or a real attraction. It's still sex provider and paying customer, at the core of the relationship. The man can't be sure if you like...
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    Can Anybody Explain These Behaviours? Mentally Challenged Or Just Plain Jerks?

    Sugar baby and prostitute are basically the same, a woman selling her body for money. The differences is arguably with how much time spent with the paying customer and the facade of a GFE. A "standard" prostitute tends to wants to spend short time with customers and giving a GFE isn't a...