First time visiting Japan and using P4P services - Looking for some advice

[firsttime7890]

Hi everyone,

I'll be visiting Japan for the first time at the end of April and figured I might as well try P4P services for the first time as well. I'll be staying around the Shinjuku/Shibuya area and traveling to different areas might be a concern for me because it is my first time in Japan.

I know little-to-no Japanese and I am looking for FS, would my best bet be to reach out to an independent escort? I've read about Soaplands and I'm getting conflicting information. For example, in the TAG FAQ, FS is apart of standard play but I've heard that penetration isn't allowed in Soaplands? Is it in my best interest to use Escort Agencies? Any other advice/info would be greatly appreciated.

I appreciate all the help! Thanks!

 

[TAG Manager]

I've heard that penetration isn't allowed in Soaplands?

What did the FAQ say? Where have you heard this lie?

 

[firsttime7890]

What did the FAQ say? Where have you heard this lie?

Should have made it more clear that I've heard no penetration from other sources (non-TAG), apologies.

 

[TAG Manager]

Should have made it more clear that I've heard no penetration from other sources (non-TAG), apologies.

Up to you. Either trust our information, or don’t. I mean, have you read the reviews in the Soapland reviews area?

 

[SealedTears]

Ahhh yes, the traditional Japanese soapland. The place where a pretty lady washes you and exactly nothing else.

 

[Fukuoka Jones]

Doctors on the forum, is this a kind of pathology? There's a kind of dick-in-hole brain plaque that disables human comprehension. Could there be a way to diagnose it with a multiple-choice questionnaire for anyone who has spent more than a couple of hours reading this forum?

 

[DragonSlayer]

I might be confusing her with someone else but I think I remember seeing Shibuya Kaho talk about Soaplands and being quite clear on the fact that FS is forbidden by law as to imply that it ain’t happening. Maybe she’s legitimately avoiding putting her working colleagues in a spotlight internationally just like people here avoid writing up about their secret favorites, and I honestly don’t mind. The more brainless punters are convinced FS is not a thing the better.

 

[MikeH]

Ahhh yes, the traditional Japanese soapland. The place where a pretty lady washes you and exactly nothing else.

That's a lie! I always get green tea too.

 

[MikeH]

Doctors on the forum, is this a kind of pathology? There's a kind of dick-in-hole brain plaque that disables human comprehension. Could there be a way to diagnose it with a multiple-choice questionnaire for anyone who has spent more than a couple of hours reading this forum?

Here you go assuming they know how to read.

 

[kirayamato]

Should have made it more clear that I've heard no penetration from other sources (non-TAG), apologies.

many gaijin mix up mat health and SL that is why.

SL is where the girls 99% falls in love with all customers and doing the deed.
Mat health is where they 99% wont fall in love with the customers.

 

[Sudsy]

Shibuya Kaho talk about Soaplands

There are far too many people out there who read her book and think that makes them some sort of expert on fuzoku and AV in Japan....

 

[Cinnabums]

There are far too many people out there who read her book and think that makes them some sort of expert on fuzoku and AV in Japan....

Seen it mentioned by some here more than others..

 

[Kevt]

many gaijin mix up mat health and SL that is why.

SL is where the girls 99% falls in love with all customers and doing the deed.
Mat health is where they 99% wont fall in love with the customers.

I guess it's technically true. A SL provider can decline FS for any reason (size, manners, ) and it's not like the shop would refund.

Likewise FS at mat health happens if providers want. Frankly FS at a wide variety of shops seem to be fairly common, but shops can't say that it's a part of the service.

 

[Alice]

I guess it's technically true. A SL provider can decline FS for any reason (size, manners, ) and it's not like the shop would refund.

Likewise FS at mat health happens if providers want. Frankly FS at a wide variety of shops seem to be fairly common, but shops can't say that it's a part of the service.

Maybe the girls have some liberty when it comes to foreign clients, but when they treat Japanese clients like this the results will be very clear:
Both cases will most likely end in the girl being FIRED, especially if she has the cheek to do those things multiple times!
(As for the FS in non FS places this will mainly be strictly punished in Tokyo. Fuuzoku in other towns may be more loose.)

 

[Kevt]

Maybe the girls have some liberty when it comes to foreign clients, but when they treat Japanese clients like this the results will be very clear:
Both cases will most likely end in the girl being FIRED, especially if she has the cheek to do those things multiple times!
(As for the FS in non FS places this will mainly be strictly punished in Tokyo. Fuuzoku in other towns may be more loose.)

I think its that gray area where shops can deny knowledge and go along with the idea that the provider and customer fell in love. Whenever I see a shop put disclaimers of "nothing can be negotiated once play starts", I think it's just playing into the loophole.

Also selective enforcement of polices since even simple things like exchanging contact info usually isn't allowed, but yet is widespread.

I just wouldn't put it past the realm of possibility that SLs aren't legally allowed to give FS either??? Like how some still have the peeping windows so cops can do spot checks on customers.

 

[Kevt]

Derailed OP's intro...

Recommend reading the many pinned posts at least. You'll be able to narrow down what you are looking for and then go to the forum sections that peak your interest to look at reviews.

those alone will give you can enough info to make your first trip memorable.

 

[Alice]

I think its that gray area where shops can deny knowledge and go along with the idea that the provider and customer fell in love. Whenever I see a shop put disclaimers of "nothing can be negotiated once play starts", I think it's just playing into the loophole.

Also selective enforcement of polices since even simple things like exchanging contact info usually isn't allowed, but yet is widespread.

I just wouldn't put it past the realm of possibility that SLs aren't legally allowed to give FS either??? Like how some still have the peeping windows so cops can do spot checks on customers.

The level of tolerance will depend on the shop, but there are many places that have been known to fire girls on the spot when they find out about any extra services provided or contact information exchanged.

Also those windows are necessary for scheduled inspection, but there are basically so surprise spot checks afaik. The windows are usually covered with towels which are only removed during scheduled inspection time.

 

[Sudsy]

I just wouldn't put it past the realm of possibility that SLs aren't legally allowed to give FS either???

They aren't. Which is why they don't advertise it, offer it, or condone it.

But sometimes a girl's heart wants what a girl's heart wants.

 

[SealedTears]

many gaijin mix up mat health and SL that is why.

https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/blake-hiroshima-rion.30984/#post-363568
That reminds me of Blake and one other that I found recently. Blake is a health soap and Cabin21 calls itself a fashion soap. Rarely, but sometimes they really do try to trip you up

 

[Babaram]

Should have made it more clear that I've heard no penetration from other sources (non-TAG), apologies.

Stop reading ISG. It poisons the brain.

 

[Sudsy]

https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/blake-hiroshima-rion.30984/#post-363568
That reminds me of Blake and one other that I found recently. Blake is a health soap and Cabin21 calls itself a fashion soap. Rarely, but sometimes they really do try to trip you up

Hiroshima is its own special little bubble.