Kagayaki Kagayaki Ginza - NOT TRUSTWORTHY

[sychotics]

Service and/or Provider's Name:
Kagayaki Ginza

Date of Encounter:
Dec 2017

Contact Method:
LINE/Phone

Appointment Length & Costs:
60 min, 34800

Type/Location:
Regular hotel

Language Notes:
English

Details of the Encounter:
After being dupes again, by them saying my chosen girl was not available at the last minute.

I asked for another girl because its my last night in Tokyo, I said fuck it.

They offered me this other asian girl that suited my interest.

Come appointment time, that fucking asshole brought a DIFFERENT girl to me, but only let her out of the car after I paid.

It was a half asian half american. I really wanted a pure japanese girl.

But the girl he gave me instead was great, very nice girl, speaks good english. I made the most of my 60 min, went through a ton of positions, and CIM. She let me do anything, except FS. Her name was Natalie.

She did everything I asked and demanded except deepthroat and intercourse.

I am still very fucking pissed at Kagayaki. But I definitely got my money's worth I feel. And Natalie was a very nice girl. Amazing body, but face ehh... I'm not interested in white girls at all, and she looks too white for me. Personal preference. Very nice girl, she drank with me for the last 10 minutes.

Final Thoughts:
Not Recommended.

Closing Comments:
DO NOT TRUST. They'll say they'll give you the girl, and fucking give you a different one at the last minute.

 

[Nosophobia2017]

You should expect that in the escort business anywhere. The pimps have the supply, but it’s not always the type of supply that swinging dick types want. The pimps are smarter than the dicks that peruse the Internet. When the time cones, the dick is so put off by the switch after being baited by what are arguably fake pictures in most cases anyway. The pimps will bring any female out thinking your dick will accept her anyway even if she’s not the same. They only want your money, they don’t care about anything else. It is known that things never get better after the first screw job. Why did you think a second wasn’t going to happen? Why didn’t you use an agency known to be reputable such as Nasty Dolls? There are countless reviews that are positive about said business. Other ones not so much hits, but a lot of misses. I’m not sure that you understand Japan much.

 

[User#8628]

Why didn’t you use an agency known to be reputable such as Nasty Dolls?

Nasty Dolls just got a bad review, lol.

If pimps are the problem, and independent would be the way to go, especially the screened ones here.

 

[CharlieSimms]

Wow. Have used this agency for years. Never had even remotely this kind of experience even once. Girls late and in the rare occasion cancelling yes. Bait and switch never ever. If you shimei, this is unheard of as you have to pay a fee for it. If you did not shimei, then yeah any girl could possibly show up. They have so many girls working at any given time often I just choose from those. Except for my regulars. Avoids the issue of any possible cancellation. They are already working. Anyway sorry to hear this. I think Kagayaki is one of the better options out there by far. Not cheap but some fine options and great service from the ladies generally speaking.

 

[Nosophobia2017]

Nasty Dolls just got a bad review, lol.

If pimps are the problem, and independent would be the way to go, especially the screened ones here.

I was interrupted and forgot to plug TAG indies.

ND got a negative review? Must have missed it after RIDER00 review. Things can change, but the general idea is that there are more sure fire ways to get laid by the so called “hot, young, Japanese beauties” offered up by various agencies. It looks like AM has a new hottie in the lineup. I’m going to stick to picking up ladies rather than call up agencies. But from looking at this site, the indies do look way more appealing than most agency providers. Alice he said he wasn’t into caucasians. But he should reconsider and book you, right?

 

[Nosophobia2017]

Wow. Have used this agency for years. Never had even remotely this kind of experience even once. Girls late and in the rare occasion cancelling yes. Bait and switch never ever. If you shimei, this is unheard of as you have to pay a fee for it. If you did not shimei, then yeah any girl could possibly show up. They have so many girls working at any given time often I just choose from those. Except for my regulars. Avoids the issue of any possible cancellation. They are already working. Anyway sorry to hear this. I think Kagayaki is one of the better options out there by far. Not cheap but some fine options and great service from the ladies generally speaking.

I’m not sure what he did or didn’t do, but twice he was dicked around. Thus he was a bit set aside by it and he vented his frustration. He wanted a certain provider and that didn’t happen for whatever reason. Thus the negative review about the process and the not so great impression of the service.

 

[User#8628]

I was interrupted and forgot to plug TAG indies.

ND got a negative review? Must have missed it after RIDER00 review. Things can change, but the general idea is that there are more sure fire ways to get laid by the so called “hot, young, Japanese beauties” offered up by various agencies. It looks like AM has a new hottie in the lineup. I’m going to stick to picking up ladies rather than call up agencies. But from looking at this site, the indies do look way more appealing than most agency providers. Alice he said he wasn’t into caucasians. But he should reconsider and book you, right?

I was thinking of this one:
https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/nd-hinako-am-kaori.17639/

Although its strange because another guy who has seen both girls says they are not the same.
So either some new trick or an isolated incident or the reviewer making this up for whatever reason.

 

[TAG Manager]

This review isn't about ND -- please go back to the review itself. If you want to comment on the ND review go here:
https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/nd-hinako-am-kaori.17639/

Although its strange because another guy who has seen both girls says they are not the same.
So either some new trick or an isolated incident or the reviewer making this up for whatever reason.

Well, something was up because she was removed from AM's site. I don't think it's made up, at least on the surface. And that's not necessarily a bad review since the reviewer was expecting someone he had not met before.

 

[TitsMcGee]

It’s happened to me with the kagayaki group too.

Avoid at all costs.

 

[Nosophobia2017]

This review isn't about ND -- please go back to the review itself. If you want to comment on the ND review go here:
https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/nd-hinako-am-kaori.17639/


Well, something was up because she was removed from AM's site. I don't think it's made up, at least on the surface. And that's not necessarily a bad review since the reviewer was expecting someone he had not met before.

I agree it wasn’t a bad review of the agency itself. It wasn’t bait and switch or poor service.

And the OP was fine with the service of the Kagayaki provider, he just didn’t like the switch in the agreed upon provider or lack of availability.

 

[User#8628]

I agree it wasn’t a bad review of the agency itself. It wasn’t bait and switch or poor service.

And the OP was fine with the service of the Kagayaki provider, he just didn’t like the switch in the agreed upon provider or lack of availability.

Maybe not exactly a bait and switch but he did say that the pictures were misleading and that he had no clue it was her from her pictures even though he had met her before.
Plus there used to be another girl with the same name before her appearantly. This is common, also with AM, but it causes confusion.
He said "not recommended", which i would definitely count as being a bad review though.

 

[Nosophobia2017]

I still don’t think it’s a bad review. It was more of a “I didn’t want to see that provider deal”. It’s not an agency problem. It started at another agency and spread to another. If it had been like at Kagayaki, where the provider was different, then I could see your point. It’s not a bad reflection of ND, it was a bad reflection of taking a chance on hiring a provider that he just didn’t click with at AM. That was why the not recommended statement was made. Is it a negative review of ND itself? No. Provider? Yes. ND as a business was not the target. Using the same name as a previous provider is the issue. But all agencies cycle through names. So I’m not sure how the review is a negative review for ND in the same way in which this thread started. Promises not met, different provider in the end.

 

[User#8628]

I still don’t think it’s a bad review. It was more of a “I didn’t want to see that provider deal”. It’s not an agency problem. It started at another agency and spread to another. If it had been like at Kagayaki, where the provider was different, then I could see your point. It’s not a bad reflection of ND, it was a bad reflection of taking a chance on hiring a provider that he just didn’t click with at AM. That was why the not recommended statement was made. Is it a negative review of ND itself? No. Provider? Yes. ND as a business was not the target. Using the same name as a previous provider is the issue. But all agencies cycle through names. So I’m not sure how the review is a negative review for ND in the same way in which this thread started. Promises not met, different provider in the end.

While i personally agree that ND was not at fault here, he said that the agency lost him as a customer and that he was not happy with how they handled the situation and that he thought AM would probably have handled it better. So from his side it sounded negative and pissed off to the agency as well although i agree that the agency was just following their own advertised policies (like not being willing to pull the cancellation fee) and that they were not in the wrong per se.

 

[Nosophobia2017]

While he said that, the problem stemmed from the past experience with the provider. Then when trying to get out of the arrangement he initiated, the agency said they would not accept 10,000 yen. In the end he settled on 45 minutes and paid that fee. Whether or not he met this Hinako/Kaori escort for 45 minutes or he just paid and left is unclear. It is not the fault of ND for a person that double dips. And you can’t expect ND to be sympathetic to his situation. ND did not knowingly cheat the OP. Using the same names is their prerogative. Maybe the provider chose it from a list, who knows. But to say that ND deserves a negative review for not allowing him to pay 10,000 yen and instead pay for the 45 minute course fee, is moving towards a false negative review. After all, he booked the provider and was shocked to see Hinako as a double agent. Therefore I can honestly look past the situation. But that is totally different from the Kagayaki experience. I stand by my advice to use AM, ND, and Indies on TAG.

 

[User#8628]

While he said that, the problem stemmed from the past experience with the provider. Then when trying to get out of the arrangement he initiated the agency said they would not accept 10,000 yen. In the end he settled on 45 minutes and paid that fee. Whether or not he met this Hinako/Kaori escort for 45 minutes or he just paid and left is unclear. It is not the fault of ND for a person that double dips. And you can’t expect ND to be sympathetic to his situation. ND did not knowingly cheat the OP. Using the same names is their prerogative. Maybe the provider chose it from a list, who knows. But to say that ND deserves a negative review for not allowing him to pay 10,000 yen and instead pay for the 45 minute course fee, is moving towards a false negative review. After all, he booked the provider and was shocked to see Hinako as a double agent. Therefore I can honestly look past the situation. But that is totally different from the Kagayaki experience. I stand by my advice to use AM, ND, and Indies on TAG.

If you look at the lastest developments on that review it sounds like ND did definitely something fishy. They had someone different with a different body type and experience level working under the same name around the same time. The only thing that would set them free would be if Kaori joined right after that girl left or something, but OP also reported the pictures did not look like Kaori.
So they probably knew she was with AM and wanted to give her some under the table bait and switch work? I dont know.

 

[Nosophobia2017]

But others seem to think that that information was fake. Let’s get back to the story at hand, if you look at the pictures of any of the females on ND, they don’t look like they do in person. These pictures are misleading from the start. Then for some reason ages are not listed. So you have no real idea of the exact body type, faces are never shown, and ages not given. When you order up an escort, you are not sure what to expect. So if there were 2 Hinakos working at the same time from the summer months as I read, I’d think that someone would have already said something if not in the open, then among other members. I don’t know but where I from the grapevine would have been buzzing. I can believe that agencies have ladies that work in other capacities. But what I don’t believe is that you can say collusion was there without proof and such a long timeline.

 

[User#8628]

But others seem to think that that information was fake. Let’s get back to the story at hand, if you look at the pictures of any of the females on ND, they don’t look like they do in person. These pictures are misleading from the start. Then for some reason ages are not listed. So you have no real idea of the exact body type, faces are never shown, and ages not given. When you order up an escort, you are not sure what to expect. So if there were 2 Hinakos working at the same time from the summer months as I read, I’d think that someone would have already said something if not in the open, then among other members. I don’t know but where I from the grapevine would have been buzzing. I can believe that agencies have ladies that work in other capacities. But what I don’t believe is that you can say collusion was there without proof and such a long timeline.

The guy who posted he saw a girl by that name in september who was not Kaori is a very reliable reviewer.
And he didn't come out with that earlier because there was nothing weird to come out with. He met Hinako, she was not Kaori. He didn't know the other guy met Hinako in october and that she was Kaori.
So for him it was just two different girls.

 

[Nosophobia2017]

The guy who posted he saw a girl by that name in september who was not Kaori is a very reliable reviewer.
And he didn't come out with that earlier because there was nothing weird to come out with. He met Hinako, she was not Kaori. He didn't know the other guy met Hinako in october and that she was Kaori.
So for him it was just two different girls.

I’m talking about the one from June.

 

[Nosophobia2017]

Or July? Go look at the thread.

 

[jhingy567]

My goodness. This is starting to get confusing.

 

[TAG Manager]

We're done here....