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This is a problem a lot men have, where they get scammed out of money by women. Many women do all this smack talking about equality between the sexes, but when the BILL comes they try to get over on men. They want ALL the benefit, but NONE of the costs or accountability.
The hypocrisy is outrageous and more men need to wise up. To not get played for a sucker, where she tries to have you pay for dinner and entertainment (and especially doesn't have sex), here are some hints:
1. You can try getting women to pay at least 1/3 of the bill. Hotel, dinner, or otherwise.
It's less likely that a woman will hold this against you or claim you are stingy. In fact, by her not contributing at least that much makes her look bad.
Getting women to pay, even if some of the bill, gets them in the HABIT to HELP contribute. If the guy starts by paying everything, MOST women will continue to let you. Thus, the guy ALWAYS paying becomes the BAD habit.
Also getting women to pay 1/3 is often an easy sell, as you are saying you are giving her a discount. In Japan and Korea, many women feel they are getting over on you (because you are paying 2/3) and are happy to accept.
A key to getting women to pay, is for her to THINK that she is getting a discount or something special.
2. If a woman is wearing very expensive clothing and accessories, comment on it. Compliment her about the quality and expense, to include asking about her job and type that it is.
A lot of guys fail to do this. The woman they are with can have MORE money than they do, and he not know it.
Women who are complimented on the high quality of her tastes and fashion, tend to TRAP themselves where they brag about how much money they have or want to help pay the bill because otherwise it makes her look bad if she doesn't.
And the more money she brags that she has, the MORE you should make her pay. Instead of 1/3, go for half or more.
3. My advice to other men, is only pay for women that:
. DON'T have a job.
. She is a college student and you are much older (like 10 years or more).
If she has a job and is above 24, you should arguably not pay all of the date, unless she is a prostitute and sex is guaranteed. Otherwise, if it's a relationship, and she should be HELPING to PAY.
4. Calculate the bill BEFOREHAND and have 1,000 yen bills.
This helps with the scam some women (especially in Japan) pull of not having any change. Say the bill is 6,000 yen, so she might say that she only has a 10,000 yen bill.
You can then GIVE her 4,000 yen (2/3 pay) and then tell her to hand the 10,000 bill to the cashier.
5. Another SCAM women try to pull is go to the BATHROOM when the bill comes.
Pay your half or 2/3 of the bill and WAIT for her to come back. Have her pay her part.
6. Whenever possible, before entering a place that has an ENTRANCE FEE, collect money from women BEFOREHAND.
This is something many guys don't know any better to do, and often how selfish or scamming women get over.
Women who don't pay, can be showing they have no obligation, are not investing in a future relationship, or have no respect for you.
Example - The hotel, happening bar, club, or onsen requires and UP FRONT COST and she pays NOTHING. Guess what? Her LEAVING the hotel or club, OR not having sex, costs her NOTHING too.
DO NOT wait until later to COLLECT money from women in such situations. A woman is more likely to STAY and TRY to enjoy a place, when she PAYS too.
Some women get off on playing guys for fools and paying for her is falling into her trap. This is also reflection of her selfishness and low character.
IMPORTANT NOTE- HOTELS are the most difficult, and a little different from other situations like entering a club. This is because the possibility of sex is imminent, so many women will often sneakily try to play the guy.
Say the hotel bill is 10,000 yen. Have 7,000 yen READY (key part) and SAY you will pay MOST of it, but do you have 3,000 yen? Usually, because you put her on the spot and you said that you are paying most of it (appearing to give her a discount), she will unthinking give you money. IF, she doesn't have change and only has a 5,000 yen or a 10,000 yen bill, then: 1) take her 10,000 yen bill and give her your 7,000 yen 2) take her 5,000 yen bill and give her 2,000 yen back.
If she won't give you ANY money (selfish or stingy female), you either DUMP her right there OR don't argue and pay. If you will pay, pretend to check your pocket and you found more money. But now you know, this is CLEARLY a poor or stingy/selfish female, and TREAT her as such. You may want to consider NOT taking her to a hotel from then on, but have sex with her in stairways, her apartment, or do SHORT stays in the hotel for only 2 or 3 hours (much cheaper).
Treat a woman as good as she treats YOU.
7. Have a woman pay for little things, and gradually pay for more by congratulating her.
This is known by many old school guys. This is where the guy creates the frame and relationship, of the WOMAN pays, to prove she cares about him.
Begin having her pay for SIMPLE things and gifts, then increase the amount. Her paying and gifts, then begins to become her buying time with you.
She wants to come sleep at your apartment? How about she takes care of a gas or water bill?
Guys can benefit from having the mindset of her buying/paying for his VALUEABLE time, and not her WASTING his time.
The key here is to REMOVE any sexual power she has in the relationship. The man should have access to sex with OTHER women, so that a particular woman CAN'T use sex as bargaining chip or leverage.
The advantage that many women ABUSE, is a man's desire to have sex with her. Remove her ability to use this as leverage, and the man's position is vastly stronger.
The hypocrisy is outrageous and more men need to wise up. To not get played for a sucker, where she tries to have you pay for dinner and entertainment (and especially doesn't have sex), here are some hints:
1. You can try getting women to pay at least 1/3 of the bill. Hotel, dinner, or otherwise.
It's less likely that a woman will hold this against you or claim you are stingy. In fact, by her not contributing at least that much makes her look bad.
Getting women to pay, even if some of the bill, gets them in the HABIT to HELP contribute. If the guy starts by paying everything, MOST women will continue to let you. Thus, the guy ALWAYS paying becomes the BAD habit.
Also getting women to pay 1/3 is often an easy sell, as you are saying you are giving her a discount. In Japan and Korea, many women feel they are getting over on you (because you are paying 2/3) and are happy to accept.
A key to getting women to pay, is for her to THINK that she is getting a discount or something special.
2. If a woman is wearing very expensive clothing and accessories, comment on it. Compliment her about the quality and expense, to include asking about her job and type that it is.
A lot of guys fail to do this. The woman they are with can have MORE money than they do, and he not know it.
Women who are complimented on the high quality of her tastes and fashion, tend to TRAP themselves where they brag about how much money they have or want to help pay the bill because otherwise it makes her look bad if she doesn't.
And the more money she brags that she has, the MORE you should make her pay. Instead of 1/3, go for half or more.
3. My advice to other men, is only pay for women that:
. DON'T have a job.
. She is a college student and you are much older (like 10 years or more).
If she has a job and is above 24, you should arguably not pay all of the date, unless she is a prostitute and sex is guaranteed. Otherwise, if it's a relationship, and she should be HELPING to PAY.
4. Calculate the bill BEFOREHAND and have 1,000 yen bills.
This helps with the scam some women (especially in Japan) pull of not having any change. Say the bill is 6,000 yen, so she might say that she only has a 10,000 yen bill.
You can then GIVE her 4,000 yen (2/3 pay) and then tell her to hand the 10,000 bill to the cashier.
5. Another SCAM women try to pull is go to the BATHROOM when the bill comes.
Pay your half or 2/3 of the bill and WAIT for her to come back. Have her pay her part.
6. Whenever possible, before entering a place that has an ENTRANCE FEE, collect money from women BEFOREHAND.
This is something many guys don't know any better to do, and often how selfish or scamming women get over.
Women who don't pay, can be showing they have no obligation, are not investing in a future relationship, or have no respect for you.
Example - The hotel, happening bar, club, or onsen requires and UP FRONT COST and she pays NOTHING. Guess what? Her LEAVING the hotel or club, OR not having sex, costs her NOTHING too.
DO NOT wait until later to COLLECT money from women in such situations. A woman is more likely to STAY and TRY to enjoy a place, when she PAYS too.
Some women get off on playing guys for fools and paying for her is falling into her trap. This is also reflection of her selfishness and low character.
IMPORTANT NOTE- HOTELS are the most difficult, and a little different from other situations like entering a club. This is because the possibility of sex is imminent, so many women will often sneakily try to play the guy.
Say the hotel bill is 10,000 yen. Have 7,000 yen READY (key part) and SAY you will pay MOST of it, but do you have 3,000 yen? Usually, because you put her on the spot and you said that you are paying most of it (appearing to give her a discount), she will unthinking give you money. IF, she doesn't have change and only has a 5,000 yen or a 10,000 yen bill, then: 1) take her 10,000 yen bill and give her your 7,000 yen 2) take her 5,000 yen bill and give her 2,000 yen back.
If she won't give you ANY money (selfish or stingy female), you either DUMP her right there OR don't argue and pay. If you will pay, pretend to check your pocket and you found more money. But now you know, this is CLEARLY a poor or stingy/selfish female, and TREAT her as such. You may want to consider NOT taking her to a hotel from then on, but have sex with her in stairways, her apartment, or do SHORT stays in the hotel for only 2 or 3 hours (much cheaper).
Treat a woman as good as she treats YOU.
7. Have a woman pay for little things, and gradually pay for more by congratulating her.
This is known by many old school guys. This is where the guy creates the frame and relationship, of the WOMAN pays, to prove she cares about him.
Begin having her pay for SIMPLE things and gifts, then increase the amount. Her paying and gifts, then begins to become her buying time with you.
She wants to come sleep at your apartment? How about she takes care of a gas or water bill?
Guys can benefit from having the mindset of her buying/paying for his VALUEABLE time, and not her WASTING his time.
The key here is to REMOVE any sexual power she has in the relationship. The man should have access to sex with OTHER women, so that a particular woman CAN'T use sex as bargaining chip or leverage.
The advantage that many women ABUSE, is a man's desire to have sex with her. Remove her ability to use this as leverage, and the man's position is vastly stronger.
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