Has anyone here pulled from a Girl's Bar?

[TexasTokyo]

I've gone to a Girl's Bar a couple of times and I am always the only white guy in there. I get a few compliments here and there (I don't believe them, I'm not a simp) and I always make jokes like "Let's go to Paris right now!" and the girls say yes and act like they are ready to leave right now. I know it is weak to do provider game but I keep getting a "yes". I am not young but I am not old yet (36). Maybe I should just pull the trigger and take one of these girls on a trip? Thoughts?

 

[roots reggae]

I've gone to a Girl's Bar a couple of times and I am always the only white guy in there. I get a few compliments here and there (I don't believe them, I'm not a simp) and I always make jokes like "Let's go to Paris right now!" and the girls say yes and act like they are ready to leave right now. I know it is weak to do provider game but I keep getting a "yes". I am not young but I am not old yet (36). Maybe I should just pull the trigger and take one of these girls on a trip? Thoughts?

Go for it, with a few small caveats...

Try to get to know the person before you ask. Even then, travelling with someone is much different than a date. Travelling is stressful, especially long trips.

Have a plan in place in case it does not work out.

You are young, however, not getting younger, Even if you later regret going for it, you'll regret even more that you didn't take the chance when you had.

Just my humble opinion...

 

[Wwanderer]

I agree with @roots reggae. Why not give it a whirl and see what happens? Most likely, I'd guess, you'll soon find yourself in a conversation about what your potential travel companion expects in the way of compensation or at least of her expectations for lodgings, travel arrangements, expenses, meals, activities, shopping etc. But maybe not. There's only one way to find out.

I do think a closer destination than Paris would be wise. Neither of you will be at your best after a flight that long.

-Ww

 

[MikeH]

II always make jokes like "Let's go to Paris right now!" and the girls say yes and act like they are ready to leave right now.

What exactly did you expect them to say in reply to a joke like that? Dude, they get paid to entertain customers.

 

[Garcian]

I don't know if "pulled" is the right word, but I have dated several girls from girls bar, kyabakura, sekukyaba, etc. Some were just dinner dates, some ended up at the hotel. Usually a one-time-thing.

You may never forget that these girls get 1000s of invitations, presents, offers, etc. etc. etc. from all kinds of guys, many of which are younger, better-looking, richer, more powerful.
So there must be a special connection in order for this to work. There is no magic, no strategy. They can choose from 1000s of guys, so it will work once in a blue moon with the right place, right time. Just be yourself, and show interest in the girl, and eventually it will click.

Good luck!

Edit: The Paris-thing sounds like something you would say to any girl. These girls hear so much stuff every day, so I think the real trick is to rather listen to them and show legit interest, and have a personal and honest conversation. At least that worked for me. Or maybe I am just too good-looking for them to resist. (If not obvious: last remark was a joke)

 

[TexasTokyo]

I agree with @roots reggae. Why not give it a whirl and see what happens? Most likely, I'd guess, you'll soon find yourself in a conversation about what your potential travel companion expects in the way of compensation or at least of her expectations for lodgings, travel arrangements, expenses, meals, activities, shopping etc. But maybe not. There's only one way to find out.

I do think a closer destination than Paris would be wise. Neither of you will be at your best after a flight that long.

-Ww

I agree with roots reggae as well and I also agree with your advice about choosing a shorter distance destination. Thanks.

 

[TexasTokyo]

I don't know if "pulled" is the right word, but I have dated several girls from girls bar, kyabakura, sekukyaba, etc. Some were just dinner dates, some ended up at the hotel. Usually a one-time-thing.

"Pulled" in this case means that you actually went to a Girl's Bar and was able to get a date scheduled. I am not talking about doing street nampa and getting a date with a girl who happens to work at a Girl's Bar, I am talking about starting off as a customer of a Girl's Bar.

Remind me never to play poker with you! I think you are too good at getting reads on people.

 

[TexasTokyo]

What exactly did you expect them to say in reply to a joke like that? Dude, they get paid to entertain customers.

Yeah I know, but I was trying to go for the "spontaneous" angle and not the "gift" angle. I know these girls get showered with presents and offers to attend events but I just can't picture a Japanese guy offering to go on a trip instantly at that moment. I had some girls tell me that they don't have a passport (polite "no"?) and a few told me their passport is ready. I don't mind starting my midlife crisis a few years early and blowing some money.

 

[Garcian]

"Pulled" in this case means that you actually went to a Girl's Bar and was able to get a date scheduled. I am not talking about doing street nampa and getting a date with a girl who happens to work at a Girl's Bar, I am talking about starting off as a customer of a Girl's Bar.

Remind me never to play poker with you! I think you are too good at getting reads on people.

I actually am a poker player. LOL! Okay, then I get the meaning of "pulled".

Reminds me of a wonderful time I had with a kyabakura girl in Sendai. Aaah, getting nostalgic.
But please don't think that I haven't spend more than enough money on these girls and haven't been through the frustration of getting millions of LINE friends, only so I can buy expensive dinner for them or having them lure me back into their little club.

Like I said, once in a blue moon it ends well.

 

[MikeH]

I know these girls get showered with presents and offers to attend events but I just can't picture a Japanese guy offering to go on a trip instantly at that moment.

You need to start to hang out with more interesting locals!

When I was still actively going to kyabas that was like the most common offer, joke or not, with anyone. When a city or country would come into the discussion someone would always go "have you been there?" and if the girl says no then it was always "so let's go, I'll take you there!".

So obviously I had to up that one and whenever a girl said half kids are cute I would offer to take them home and make one. Nine out of ten would say yes. But I am guessing only because they knew that I knew that they are working.

 

[TexasTokyo]

You need to start to hang out with more interesting locals!

When I was still actively going to kyabas that was like the most common offer, joke or not, with anyone. When a city or country would come into the discussion someone would always go "have you been there?" and if the girl says no then it was always "so let's go, I'll take you there!".

So obviously I had to up that one and whenever a girl said half kids are cute I would offer to take them home and make one. Nine out of ten would say yes. But I am guessing only because they knew that I knew that they are working.

Thanks for the reality check. Here I am thinking I came up with some new and original angle and it sounds like it is the "go-to play" in their Playbook.I give you credit for being bold.

 

[MikeH]

Here I am thinking I came up with some new and original angle and it sounds like it is the "go-to play" in their Playbook.

Hell, you came up with that one all by yourself; please give yourself some credit! And not that it was even be half a bad line, I am guessing most of the girls you tried it on reacted positively.

I give you credit for being bold.

Ah, there is no trick in being bold when you know the trill and also that you are talking with professional. So you know none of them would actually demand you put a baby in them; the absolute worst that could happen is one of them would let you take her to a hotel and when you think about that it's not so bad.

 

[User#8628]

Thanks for the reality check. Here I am thinking I came up with some new and original angle and it sounds like it is the "go-to play" in their Playbook.I give you credit for being bold.

Well, i think it was maybe a common pick up line during the bubble era or maybe still in some upscale clubs, but i wouldn't be too worried that girls in a 3000 yen per hour girlsbar where common, married salary men go to drink get invited for overseas travels all too often.

My advice is, its a 90% chance they are just fooling around with you and think you are not serious or they lead you on for their job, so if a girl says yes at first but then kind of backs out, dont push it.

 

[TexasTokyo]

but i wouldn't be too worried that girls in a 3000 yen per hour girlsbar where common, married salary men go to drink get invited for overseas travels all too often.

I wish it was only 3000yen an hour! After you factor in drinks for the girls it is more like 10000 yen an hour. I hope I did not get ripped off! I am done with the Girls Bar, I am moving on to activities that guarantee fun if you know what I mean ;-)

 

[Garcian]

I wish it was only 3000yen an hour! After you factor in drinks for the girls it is more like 10000 yen an hour. I hope I did not get ripped off! I am done with the Girls Bar, I am moving on to activities that guarantee fun if you know what I mean ;-)

You will get ripped off at any (!) of these places That is part of the experience.

I was on a stroll through Shimbashi the other day, and has soon as the touts figured out I was in drinking mode and had a bit of cash on me, they followed me everywhere. They contacted each other and knew exactly when I was leaving a place, so that the next guy was already waiting to lure me into the next place.

But back to the original topic:
Girls Bars are okay if you just want some drinks and some female company. Usually, you get nothing more than that. It can be fun when you are on business/company party or have other crazy guys that for some reason pay your bill. Then, talking to the girls is a nice free bonus.

 

[Frenchy]

I actually am a poker player. LOL! Okay, then I get the meaning of "pulled".

Reminds me of a wonderful time I had with a kyabakura girl in Sendai. Aaah, getting nostalgic.
But please don't think that I haven't spend more than enough money on these girls and haven't been through the frustration of getting millions of LINE friends, only so I can buy expensive dinner for them or having them lure me back into their little club.

Like I said, once in a blue moon it ends well.

I had a period like that and it sucked , not in a good way. I enjoyed talking to them , they were very good at flattering my (huge) ego and relieving my anxieties and wallet , some were in fact very smart and attractive,but for my (much less sizeable) balls there was not much relief and when it happened it was rather meh. I learnt to segregate the P4P experiences according to this basic rule (YMMV of course, and there are exceptions)
- girls bar for fun banter while getting drunk
- hostess for ego-soothing
- escort for dick-soothing
- SB for real GFE experiences
It's just 4 different sets of skills

 

[Frenchy]

I wish it was only 3000yen an hour! After you factor in drinks for the girls it is more like 10000 yen an hour. I hope I did not get ripped off! I am done with the Girls Bar, I am moving on to activities that guarantee fun if you know what I mean ;-)

10000 / hour including drinks is not that bad

 

[Garcian]

I had a period like that and it sucked , not in a good way. I enjoyed talking to them , they were very good at flattering my (huge) ego and relieving my anxieties and wallet , some were in fact very smart and attractive,but for my (much less sizeable) balls there was not much relief and when it happened it was rather meh. I learnt to segregate the P4P experiences according to this basic rule (YMMV of course, and there are exceptions)
- girls bar for fun banter while getting drunk
- hostess for ego-soothing
- escort for dick-soothing
- SB for real GFE experiences
It's just 4 different sets of skills

Well said.

We all go through periods like that. Of course drinking with girls and being flattered is awesome.

 

[akasam]

"Let's go to Paris right now!" and the girls say yes

Do it! But when you land at DFW and tell her you're driving the rest of the way I hope you're ready for the reaction.

 

[Frenchy]

Do it! But when you land at DFW and tell her you're driving the rest of the way I hope you're ready for the reaction.

Or maybe he just meant the love-hotel Paris , in Shibuya ?

 

[akasam]

Or maybe he just meant the love-hotel Paris , in Shibuya ?

We call that plausible deniability.

 

[roots reggae]

So, in case you haven't figured it out by now, I enjoy researching off-beat topics.

The OP got me to thinking, and you'll be amazed at what turned up.

You may want to think of an alternative to Paris. (Sorry, Frenchy)

Paris may be hazardous to her health. Here's what I found:

Paris Syndrome: A Psychological Condition that Hits Japanese Hardest

"According to psychologist Hervé Benhamou, “Fragile travelers can lose their bearings. When the idea they have of the country meets the reality of what they discover, it can provoke a crisis.” Take these exaggerated expectations and add to them the stark contrast between the two cultures’ sense of politeness, social graces and communication in general, and you just may have yourself a case of “Paris Syndrome.” This is the term that was dubbed in 1986 by Professor Hiroaki Ota for a form of Gallic culture shock so severe that it may require hospitalization and at times even immediate repatriation to Japan.

The Japanese Embassy in Paris now has a 24-hour hotline for Japanese tourists suffering from the syndrome, whose symptoms can range from depression and anxiety to acute delusional states, dizziness, sweating, hallucinations and “feelings of persecution.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-zephyrine-mcdonough/french-toilet-story_b_2422398.html

 

[Misslorena]

So, in case you haven't figured it out by now, I enjoy researching off-beat topics.

The OP got me to thinking, and you'll be amazed at what turned up.

You may want to think of an alternative to Paris. (Sorry, Frenchy)

Paris may be hazardous to her health. Here's what I found:

Paris Syndrome: A Psychological Condition that Hits Japanese Hardest

"According to psychologist Hervé Benhamou, “Fragile travelers can lose their bearings. When the idea they have of the country meets the reality of what they discover, it can provoke a crisis.” Take these exaggerated expectations and add to them the stark contrast between the two cultures’ sense of politeness, social graces and communication in general, and you just may have yourself a case of “Paris Syndrome.” This is the term that was dubbed in 1986 by Professor Hiroaki Ota for a form of Gallic culture shock so severe that it may require hospitalization and at times even immediate repatriation to Japan.

The Japanese Embassy in Paris now has a 24-hour hotline for Japanese tourists suffering from the syndrome, whose symptoms can range from depression and anxiety to acute delusional states, dizziness, sweating, hallucinations and “feelings of persecution.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-zephyrine-mcdonough/french-toilet-story_b_2422398.html

I think I might be suffering from "I went from a third world country to a first world country and I never want to go back again" syndrome. Do I get a hotline too?

 

[Frenchy]

So, in case you haven't figured it out by now, I enjoy researching off-beat topics.

The OP got me to thinking, and you'll be amazed at what turned up.

You may want to think of an alternative to Paris. (Sorry, Frenchy)

Paris may be hazardous to her health. Here's what I found:

Paris Syndrome: A Psychological Condition that Hits Japanese Hardest

"According to psychologist Hervé Benhamou, “Fragile travelers can lose their bearings. When the idea they have of the country meets the reality of what they discover, it can provoke a crisis.” Take these exaggerated expectations and add to them the stark contrast between the two cultures’ sense of politeness, social graces and communication in general, and you just may have yourself a case of “Paris Syndrome.” This is the term that was dubbed in 1986 by Professor Hiroaki Ota for a form of Gallic culture shock so severe that it may require hospitalization and at times even immediate repatriation to Japan.

The Japanese Embassy in Paris now has a 24-hour hotline for Japanese tourists suffering from the syndrome, whose symptoms can range from depression and anxiety to acute delusional states, dizziness, sweating, hallucinations and “feelings of persecution.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-zephyrine-mcdonough/french-toilet-story_b_2422398.html

Guess what ... I actually suffer from it too! Hence I live here

 

[MikeH]

So, in case you haven't figured it out by now, I enjoy researching off-beat topics.

You are doing it so often I am starting to suspect you also beat off to them.