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Why Gaijinpot Sucks

Like, somewhere out there is a compilation of stories from female teachers and it is like a fucking horror comedy. There's the high school boy who just rubs his dick through his pants through the entire lesson. The married salaryman who constantly invites them to a love hotel and then claims they misunderstood his poor English. The strange old man who tries to touch your legs the whole time but only when you're alone. None of these people were banned from using the company, or even banned from asking for female teachers. It's a shitshow of the highest order.
 
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Hofmeyer said:
Like, somewhere out there is a compilation of stories from female teachers and it is like a fucking horror comedy. There's the high school boy who just rubs his dick through his pants through the entire lesson. The married salaryman who constantly invites them to a love hotel and then claims they misunderstood his poor English. The strange old man who tries to touch your legs the whole time but only when you're alone. None of these people were banned from using the company, or even banned from asking for female teachers. It's a shitshow of the highest order.
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That’s the only part about it that I like! What the fuck are you talking about? The only redeeming aspect of the whole sad world of eikaiwa is when teachers and students fuck each other in some inappropriate way.
 
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That’s the only part about it that I like! What the fuck are you talking about? The only redeeming aspect of the whole sad world of eikaiwa is when teachers and students fuck each other in some inappropriate way.
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Oh sorry. We’re you saying that you like the horror comedy? I certainly do. It’s fucking great.
 
Hofmeyer said:
Like, somewhere out there is a compilation of stories from female teachers and it is like a fucking horror comedy. There's the high school boy who just rubs his dick through his pants through the entire lesson. The married salaryman who constantly invites them to a love hotel and then claims they misunderstood his poor English. The strange old man who tries to touch your legs the whole time but only when you're alone. None of these people were banned from using the company, or even banned from asking for female teachers. It's a shitshow of the highest order.
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Obviously that is their whole business model.
Come on, they look for attractive, young people with not much skill (but need that degree to pull the visa) to give one to one private lessons to people who suck at English and who don’t have real motivation to get good at it.
There is a reason Gaba rimes with kyaba.. people go there to talk. Best case to act like they are cool for learning English and hanging out with foreigners, and they take it as some silly conversation practice. Worst case to hit on the teachers, both male and female.
I definitely think teachers should know what they’re getting into. This is a visa mill and you can pull a lot of customers if you are young and attractive and some teachers do enjoy hooking up with their students.
 
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Well the problem is the vast majority of women who reported sexual harassment obviously didn't want to hook up with their clients. And it is in fact not obvious that Gaba is pushing that angle. Maybe you're joking but I would expect someone who entrusts her body to complete strangers not to abuse that trust to have some sympathy for women who are not willing and were never expecting sexual abuse.
 
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Well the problem is the vast majority of women who reported sexual harassment obviously didn't want to hook up with their clients. And it is in fact not obvious that Gaba is pushing that angle. Maybe you're joking but I would expect someone who entrusts her body to complete strangers not to abuse that trust to have some sympathy for women who are not willing and were never expecting sexual abuse.
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Its maybe not obvious for the people that gaijin pot requits but its quite obvious for the people who live here and know ever the littlest bit about English teaching, even the ones who’re not in the business themselves. Like i said, private lessons that are focused on interacting with the teacher, not on studying. My attempt to describe their ways was indeed half humor, half letting people who read this know what kind of company this is. While it may not have been the most sensitive, this is a clear illustration of what to expect. I don’t say i stand behind them or that its ok for them to trick people into working there with the idea that their customers will come there to study and behave well. Certainly, i think the police should bust the ass of everyone negativity involved in these harassment cases.
However, i think thats a pretty low attack on my own job. Some kind of “you signed up to be a toy but other women don’t” huh?
I can stand up for myself and deal with harassment on my own at least.

Anyway I wasn’t saying anything bad about those women, so no need for a personal attack on me, i was only talking about what kind of business gaba is and since TAG has a lot of foreigners its good they can read that and realize their angle.
 
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I haven't looked at japan today in a long time, but the comment sections in that were basically a forum, and pretty much every article NO MATTER what it was about, would depend into name calling, arguing, gun control / gay marriage / whale hunting slanging matches.

so to illustrate my point I just clicked on the first article I saw

https://japantoday.com/category/national/giant-panda-cub-xiang-xiang-at-tokyo-zoo-turns-1-year-old

the first (and only comment) on what you would have thought is a nice story about a cute baby panda turning 1 is negative
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This topic is about Gaijinpot though. Not Japan Today.
 
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warubuta said:
The Venn diagram of white people from the first world English speaking with mediocre college education, middle to upper class parents, trying to escape the embarrassment of working in Walmart who come to Japan and then don’t succeed spectacularly so write horseshit on the internet all day. It’s just one big fucking circle. No non intersection
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Yep, one big comfy circle that I sit right in the middle of.
 
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They've started removing any negative comments on Gaba because of their business relationship. So now you only hear nice things about the company that is actively grinding English teachers into dust through illegal business practices and letting their female teachers get sexually harassed constantly with no oversight.
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I interviewed for an HR role at Gaba years ago. The practices that were brought up during the first interview were so shady that I didn't go back for the second. One day their senior management is going to end up serving a prison term.
 
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Its maybe not obvious for the people that gaijin pot requits but its quite obvious for the people who live here and know ever the littlest bit about English teaching, even the ones who’re not in the business themselves. Like i said, private lessons that are focused on interacting with the teacher, not on studying. My attempt to describe their ways was indeed half humor, half letting people who read this know what kind of company this is. While it may not have been the most sensitive, this is a clear illustration of what to expect. I don’t say i stand behind them or that its ok for them to trick people into working there with the idea that their customers will come there to study and behave well. Certainly, i think the police should bust the ass of everyone negativity involved in these harassment cases.
However, i think thats a pretty low attack on my own job. Some kind of “you signed up to be a toy but other women don’t” huh?
I can stand up for myself and deal with harassment on my own at least.

Anyway I wasn’t saying anything bad about those women, so no need for a personal attack on me, i was only talking about what kind of business gaba is and since TAG has a lot of foreigners its good they can read that and realize their angle.
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I didn't say what you seem to think I implied about your job. I was commenting on your apparent blame shifting to the victims of the abuse. Which you're still kind of doing. And fyi, I've been in the English teaching business. It is not obvious what kind of company they are, except maybe to you.
 
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Is there a prize for the deepest necro-bump ever?

And with this post I can claim to have 8 years between two comments in the same thread!

I hope to put another post in the thread in 2026...

-Ww
 
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Is there a prize for the deepest necro-bump ever?

And with this post I can claim to have ost of 8 years between two comments in the same thread!

I hope to put another post in the thread in 2026...

-Ww
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I didnt know that TAG itself was that old. First I thought the date on this necro-bumped thread was wrong.
 
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I interviewed for an HR role at Gaba years ago. The practices that were brought up during the first interview were so shady that I didn't go back for the second. One day their senior management is going to end up serving a prison term.
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Care to elaborate?

I'm going to move from Tokyo to another prefecture somewhere south and one of GABA's ad caught my attention.

(I'm a guy so I don't mind women touching my legs or invite me to love hotels :love:)
 
Back when the "Lehman Shock" (global financial crash) hit 10 or however many years ago all the companies I was working with at the time slashed their budgets over the course of a few months and I needed to find something to cover rent, etc while I looked for a new full time job. GABA filled that gap, but I was not sorry to quit the minute I was offered a new full time job.

I was only there as an instructor and then only for a few months so my experience is very limited - I didn't see anything ridiculously shady but they really, really leaned into the "you are a private contractor, not an employee" angle.

They placed me at a branch about 40 minutes from where I live which isn't the end of the world on its own, but they don't cover travel expenses. So that meant I was out close to 1000 yen a day just on train fare. You were paid an hourly salary for the lessons you taught but prep time wasn't included. If I remember correctly the lessons were 40 minutes and then there was a 10 minute gap, so even if you were fully booked the whole time you were there you'd still end up missing out on an hour or so of billable time by the end of the day. Breaks were unpaid as were any unbooked slots.

So an 8 hour day could look something like this -

8 hours total with a 30 minute break - 9 lesson slots
If they all booked - 360 minutes / 6 hours billable at 2000 yen an hour = 12,000 before taxes
If only 6 booked - 240 minutes / 4 hours billable at 2000 yen an hour = 8000 before taxes

Take out taxes and transportation costs and you could work a fully booked 8 hour shift and still be taking home less than 10,000 yen - better than part time at a convenience store and definitely not a difficult or high-stress job but not really a huge potential for earning. Also, like any other mall-based English school there are peak times and relatively dead times - nights and weekends would book pretty well but mornings and afternoons were quite a bit slower.

You aren't guaranteed any work at all so if things were super slow (or you were super unpopular with the students) you could theoretically be in the red for the day, although that never happened to me. Its definitely a popularity game so depending on how personable/good looking you are YMMV in terms of earning potential.

It was so long ago I honestly don't remember that much about the job and those are all ballpark estimations - I think there may have been some kind of incentive programs/bonuses for certain things that bumped the pay up and I can't remember for sure what the exact hourly rate was but I think it was something like 2000 yen.

My overall impression was that it was a decent way to pay rent while looking for something better but definitely not something I would want to do in the long term. One good thing is that since it is so flexible/low-commitment you can quit at basically any time and have zero impact on the people you are working with.
 
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Care to elaborate?
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The ones that most people will understand:

Treatment of instructors as private contractors when they are clearly not - used as a dodge to deny them various employment rights.

Failure to enrol instructors in shakai hoken based on the claim that they are private contractors.

Payment of wages only for booked time while requiring instructors to remain on premises.

Booked time only payments can also potentially bring instructors' real wages down below minimum wage - or even cause them to lose money.

All of these are wilful abuses - they are aware that they are breaking the law, and it is their policy to continue to do so.
 
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Also usually when guys think "Oh I wouldn't mind a lady getting touchy with me," you're assuming it is someone you would be attracted to in the first place. Imagine the most unattractive woman you can, and then add some B.O. and other hygiene issues.

Still want her to grope your dick or ask you to continue the lesson in her home?
 
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Also usually when guys think "Oh I wouldn't mind a lady getting touchy with me," you're assuming it is someone you would be attracted to in the first place. Imagine the most unattractive woman you can, and then add some B.O. and other hygiene issues.

Still want her to grope your dick or ask you to continue the lesson in her home?
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Yes.
 
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And she flops a foot long out of her pants?
 
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Sudsy said:
The ones that most people will understand:

Treatment of instructors as private contractors when they are clearly not - used as a dodge to deny them various employment rights.

Failure to enrol instructors in shakai hoken based on the claim that they are private contractors.

Payment of wages only for booked time while requiring instructors to remain on premises.

Booked time only payments can also potentially bring instructors' real wages down below minimum wage - or even cause them to lose money.

All of these are wilful abuses - they are aware that they are breaking the law, and it is their policy to continue to do so.
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Yeah. Much better to work as an FS-included / non tax-paying / off-the-radar indie escort then. If you break the law at least it must be for a decent pay :D
 
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Just like their customers.
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Ok ok ok I admit that I once let a girl I know stick her pinky up the Buta Bomb Bay. But it only happened that once. And I swear it was just an experiment and I didn’t really like it.....that much.
 
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