Recent content by lurk3r

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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    Ok. I’ll stop flirty body touching and I’ll ignore body language. Surely I’ll be successful then. No. I’m not getting the results I want because, as Lukes pointed out, I’m going into the date with different expectations than the girl is. It’s my assessment that my expectation is causing me to...
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    Myself can be quite oblivious, so I have to use some techniques otherwise I wouldn't have made it as far (short?) as I have so far. :p
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    "Hey I saw you triangle-gazing there." "Yeah you like dat kino bb?" :ROFLMAO: Yeah I totally don't calibrate my speech to my audience at all. It's straight up PUA lingo with every single person I talk to.
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    If I lacked empathy I wouldn't even be in this situation....I'd just be mindlessly coercing women into my bed. That said, what really is the difference between going out with someone you met on the internet and someone you met at a bar or on the street? In both cases you're strangers. "Oh but...
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    TIL "some effort" equals doing all the work. I'm having some cognitive dissonance here: Meanwhile I'm supposed to do borderline coercion to get her in my bed......the fact that she expects it to be borderline coercion doesn't make it feel like fun, consensual participation....How do you get...
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    Wow that’s incredibly one-sided. Guys don’t get burned out on having to do everything all the damn time?
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    Is that also why they don’t say what they want; “I’m going home tonight,” etc.? I wish women understood that....
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    There wasn’t enough effort on her part to tell me she wanted that, which goes back to the passivity thing. What’s with putting in so little effort beyond showing up? That’s what I don’t get. Makes me feel like they’d be dead fish in the bed even if I did take them home. There’s a big difference...
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    Gauging interest is a big deal for me since I'm not interested in coerced sex. In a strange turn of events, I got a message from "Casper" out of the blue, saying she decided to stop seeing people she met on Tinder (supposedly) and she apologized about the situation. I much prefer that to...
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    How do you avoid this? Or at least understand it's happening so as not to be blindsided? So far the only girls I've had success with have honestly been on the clingy side and I tire of being around them, so when I meet someone like "Casper" I feel a bit more confident that I'm dating an...
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    Passivity and Busy OLs: I can't gauge interest

    First post here so it 's a little long, mainly to avoid wasting time on questions that can be answered before they're even asked. Also, I'm not sure if this belongs in the dating section? There's so much overlap between 'PUA' and dating that I'm not sure which is more appropriate. Background...