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What do they do in that case?

If you are lucky they take you to the hotel and make you show the passport. If you are not lucky they take you to the police box until someone brings your passport to them. And if they are extra nasty they write you a ticket for not keeping the passport with you.
 
Yup. See that randomly at night in various neighborhoods. Saw one most recently around the area of Nakano, just stopping everyone that was riding by. (checking each bike, plus some extra for those riding at night without lights..)
Interesting. I've been working in Nakano for a while, but never seen them proactively stop a rider in motion. But have seen countless times them giving tickets to parked bikes in the park. I didn't realize they'd go through the directness of actually stopping someone.
 
I didn't realize they'd go through the directness of actually stopping someone.

Pick any of the big bridges late at night and most of the time they have one or two officers stopping every bicycle and checking the registration number.

Unless you are a big fat drunken gaijin in which case they realise they are not paid enough to deal with that and let you paddle straight through.
 
Interesting. I've been working in Nakano for a while, but never seen them proactively stop a rider in motion. But have seen countless times them giving tickets to parked bikes in the park. I didn't realize they'd go through the directness of actually stopping someone.
I go through the area on Yamate-Dori and Ome-Kaido-Dori and I have friends that live around the Nakano-Shimbashi station area, so in that corridor where is where I saw the last one.
But I guess that's not really Nakano proper when I think about it, the station names stuck in my head...
 
Green jacket guys or actual police?
So long as you move your car before they finish the process, you're fine.
It takes awhile for them to do it, so people that get tickets for parking aren't paying attention (after knowing that you parked somewhere that you shouldn't have).
 
I don't know that you are actually required to show ID without probable cause and reasonable suspicion unless they believe a crime is about to be committed.
Without Japanese citizenship you are most certainly required to show ID when questioned by police or any other authority during the execution of official duties
 
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Someone who lives in Japan and believes anything The Japan Times writes should seriously consider moving back to their home country.

People who read the Japan Times and live here are beyond helping.

They are the type of people that recommend Gonpachi in nishi azabu as a great izakaya to tourists and think that their japanese language skill is good because someone once told them 日本語上手 because they were able to struggle through a basic greeting.

Debito is a twat. He just wants to be offended by stuff and start arguments. The advice he gives in his article (im annoyed with myself i actually read it) is ridiculous and would almost certainly result in escalating benign situation into a situation with several pissed off / bored dudes with guns surrounding a self-righteous guy that doesnt speak their language very well.
 
People who read the Japan Times and live here are beyond helping.

They are the type of people that recommend Gonpachi in nishi azabu as a great izakaya to tourists and think that their japanese language skill is good because someone once told them 日本語上手 because they were able to struggle through a basic greeting.

Debito is a twat. He just wants to be offended by stuff and start arguments. The advice he gives in his article (im annoyed with myself i actually read it) is ridiculous and would almost certainly result in escalating benign situation into a situation with several pissed off / bored dudes with guns surrounding a self-righteous guy that doesnt speak their language very well.

yeah compared to Debito and his paranoid / persecuted nonsense our dear TJB is a model of acceptance and moderation
 
People who read the Japan Times and live here are beyond helping.

They are the type of people that recommend Gonpachi in nishi azabu as a great izakaya to tourists and think that their japanese language skill is good because someone once told them 日本語上手 because they were able to struggle through a basic greeting.

couldn’t help but thinking about this video :whistle:

 
same! I love his channel and his humor :) and unlike most of those J-vlog people, his Japanese is almost flawless. I enjoy listening to him.

Thanks for the find! Not being hip and cool with the Youtube I never heard about this guy before. Must be some kind of university researcher or something because he is like the second native English speaker ever I have heard to be pronouncing Japanese like a native speaker.
 
Thanks for the find! Not being hip and cool with the Youtube I never heard about this guy before. Must be some kind of university researcher or something because he is like the second native English speaker ever I have heard to be pronouncing Japanese like a native speaker.

he probably has a small spike in his social media followers / engagements today and is wondering where they all came from.
 
he probably has a small spike in his social media followers / engagements today and is wondering where they all came from.

Now wait for the first guy to ask him "I am otherwise fluent but what do the doormen ask when you are trying to enter a fuzoku shop?" in three, two...
 
Debito is a twat.

That douchebag is still around??? I remember his online bullshit activism from fifteen years ago. I'm all in favor of equal treatment, but the govt/yaks really need to get rid of that asshole.
 
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Thanks for the find! Not being hip and cool with the Youtube I never heard about this guy before. Must be some kind of university researcher or something because he is like the second native English speaker ever I have heard to be pronouncing Japanese like a native speaker.
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What do you think of the advice in the article below?

Remain calm. Sounds like very good advice. The rest sounds like a recipe for trouble.


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commun...ZnuhO0Gh5IjILApRpNLxOHXpzXpripss#.XiVMuhcza7C

Refusing to comply with police orders might not get you killed in Japan like it might in America but it's still not a great idea. I agree with the keep calm part and maybe asking why you're being stopped if you ask politely. But I think trying to record officers and offering resistance is likely to ruin your day.
 
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Refusing to comply with police orders might not get you killed in Japan like it might in America but it's still not a great idea. I agree with the keep calm part and maybe asking why you're being stopped if you ask politely. But I think trying to record officers and offering resistance is likely to ruin your day.

What's going on? Someone answered the question!!! :)
 
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What's going on? Someone answered the question!!! :)

Yeah, but that was not the correct answer. If you are wondering what really to do read the following. Good luck!

Ask why you are being stopped: Ask if this is a case of “ore no chinko mitain desu ka?” (police wanting to see personal details). If yes, the law requires probable cause that a crime has been or is about to be committed, but don't worry, that is about to happen. If it is not, just leave. Nyah, just try to leave anyway. It's more fun that way. For us at least.

Ask to see their's: “Sore nara omae no mono mo misete kudasai” will do. Write something in it and/or take a picture of it. This will no doubt agitate especially if it's small, but without this record there is no personal accountability because they all are.

Use your phone (or ask a friend, scrap that you don't have any) to start recording: You do not need consent and, even if done surreptitiously, a filming together is lots of fun. They will tell you to put the phone away, if they are shy but at least leave the audio on. No recording may result in a lost revenue outcome in the snuff websites and nobody know who came first. It may also preemptively temper the cops’ behaviour somewhat, but it's pretty much guaranteed it will go the other way.

Ask if compliance is optional (nin’i desu ka): If they ask to go through your backpack, pockets and asshole, you have the option to refuse the search without lube (ru-bu). Try: “Ru-bu ga nakereba, itai desu.”

Above all, remain excited and at least semi-hard, and synchronise your voice to their trusts: That can be difficult when surrounded by a phalanx of suspicious dicks. But, as in other societies, the threshold of “resisting surprise sex” in Japan is arbitrary, and a judge will take the police officer’s word over yours in custody.

Arm yourself. Demonstrating some hardness in your genitalia will also act as a natural check on abuses. Cops around the world take advantage of nerds like you, so if you carry lots of lube with you all the time, things might go smoother.
 
Only ever got stopped once in 10+ years, and that was for the crime of riding my bicycle without working lights the short distance to the local konbini, tragically for them they made the mistake of stopping me in the konbini parking lot, not on the public road, so they had to resort to radioing in to the 24/7 Bicycle Registration Control Center, which I imagine is a cavernous bunker beneath the Keishicho full of people hunched over workstations plotting the course of stolen mamacharis while a bank of wall-mounted screens shows scenes of bicycle-related hotspot activity across the Kanto area, and they got excited for a brief moment as they couldn't find the registration sticker, which the guy in the shop had stuck somewhere inconspicuous, but ultimately they were satisfied that the registration matched the name I gave them ("Colonel Sanders") and sent on my way with nary a check of any ID, presumably hoping I would be dumb enough to cycle off down the public road.
 
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