The Next US President is....

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DireWolf98 said:
I have no idea who will win. However, if President Trump loses, on January 20, 2021, he will fly to a golf course in Florida for a round with a friend or two.
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Well , he even said it might be overseas, oddly :D
 
Frenchy said:
i beg to disagree , but it doesn’t matter . Your mindframe is « they distort the truth and they are far more numerous (are they , now?) so Fox News and Breitbart etc are totally entitled to lie even more » . Why not retorting with the truth, pure and simple, instead of just with competing BS?
I think the reasonable , « un-hysterical » conservatives are just not represented at all in the US media nowadays. And its too bad because thats a media I (and I suppose million others) would actually like to follow
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IMO, you play fast and loose with the word "lie."

Besides that, the un-hysterical media include my favorites: The Wall Street Journal; CNBC; and Bloomberg TV. The latter two are fairly apolitical and focus on the economy.
 
DireWolf98 said:
IMO, you play fast and loose with the word "lie."

Besides that, the un-hysterical media include my favorites: The Wall Street Journal; CNBC; and Bloomberg TV. The latter two are fairly apolitical and focus on the economy.
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agreed. when I want (relatively) unbiased US news focused on the facts and business matters its WSJ and Bloomberg. Not much else. For more mundane matters I like USA Today too. Im not a big fan of the big TV networks, left or right.
 
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Frenchy said:
they distort the truth and they are far more numerous (are they , now?)
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We’ve discussed this before. Once again, off the top of my head, to refresh your memory:

Conservative

Wall Street Journal
Breitbart
NY Post
Fox News

Liberal

NY Times
NY Daily News
Washington Post
Boston Globe
USA Today
Chicago Tribune
Newsday
Dallas Morning News
Baltimore Sun
Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Orlando Sentinel
Miami Herald
Kansas City Star
Arizona Republic
LA Times
San Francisco Examiner
Minneapolis Star Tribune
Seattle Times
Associated Press
Time
Newsweek
New York Magazine
Huffington Post
CNN
CBS
NBC
ABC
PBS
NPR
MSNBC

If liberal bias wasn't a serious issue, why would the Columbia Journalism Review, (a politically neutral trade magazine for journalists) in 2004, comment that the then-current press corps were basically "unpaid adjuncts of the Democratic Party?"
 
DireWolf98 said:
We’ve discussed this before. Once again, off the top of my head, to refresh your memory:

Conservative

Wall Street Journal
Breitbart
NY Post
Fox News

Liberal

NY Times
NY Daily News
Washington Post
Boston Globe
USA Today
Chicago Tribune
Newsday
Dallas Morning News
Baltimore Sun
Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Orlando Sentinel
Miami Herald
Kansas City Star
Arizona Republic
LA Times
San Francisco Examiner
Minneapolis Star Tribune
Seattle Times
Associated Press
Time
Newsweek
New York Magazine
Huffington Post
CNN
CBS
NBC
ABC
PBS
NPR
MSNBC

If liberal bias wasn't a serious issue, why would the Columbia Journalism Review, (a politically neutral trade magazine for journalists) in 2004, comment that the then-current press corps were basically "unpaid adjuncts of the Democratic Party?"
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im sorry, but being a French conservative myself (although you may argue that from your pov Chirac and Sarkozy were socialists, who knows) I wouldn’t associate Breitbart , NY Post and Fox News with this political orientation. These are just populist/far-rightist propaganda tools. And again , why so few reasonable , truely conservative / center-right media? Why is it so polarized anyway? I dunno , but I regret it.
 
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Keihan said:
Hillary was seen as the heir to Obama's legacy and made it part of her platform to carry on his agenda; when she lost, it was largely seen as a referendum on Obama.[/QUOTE

She lost cos she’s a horrible cunt with no redeeming features.

Trump is too, but he’s more interesting.
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Frenchy said:
im sorry, but being a French conservative myself (although you may argue that from your pov Chirac and Sarkozy were socialists, who knows) I wouldn’t associate Breitbart , NY Post and Fox News with this political orientation. These are just populist/far-rightist propaganda tools. And again , why so few reasonable , truely conservative / center-right media? Why is it so polarized anyway? I dunno , but I regret it.
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Most media is Liberal or neo-liberal to be pedantic, but there are no real "right" or "left" mainstream outlets, they're either corporatist or corporatist wings of the democratic or republican parties. I'm may be getting into semantics but as someone on the far-left it bothers me to be grouped in with these people, lol.
 
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Frenchy said:
Your mindframe is « they distort the truth and they are far more numerous (are they , now?) so Fox News and Breitbart etc are totally entitled to lie even more »
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My friend, I never implied or expressed the view that any news outlet should "lie." Please don't falsely portray my comments. My point involves news coverage and editorial focus.

Once again, an example of that flawed focus of the liberal-dominated Main Stream Media (MSM):

One incident stands out in my mind from Election Night 2016, when a blubbering apparatchik came wandering out of the Javits Center. So, a reporter started asking her questions and this apparatchik started whining about the market being shut down and all of the horrible things that were happening.

The reporter merely encouraged that behavior and probably gave her tissue or maybe chopped an onion to produce more tears. This lady probably didn't know the different between the stock market and the Hunts Point Produce Market. She probably would have parroted the comment if someone muttered darkly about the weakness of the New York Jets' corner backs (it's because Trump won).

An impartial journalist would have asked questions. Oh, you follow the market? Do you like Growth or Income? Are you a momentum player? Do trade options? How did you feel when US markets dropped after President Obama was re-elected?

An impartial journalist would have asked those questions, but the reporter on the scene didn’t. Instead, he or she allowed that apparatchik to blubber on and fuel the victim narrative the MSM was pushing that night.
 
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DireWolf98 said:
My friend, I never implied or expressed the view that any news outlet should "lie." Please don't falsely portray my comments. My point involves news coverage and editorial focus.

Once again, an example of that flawed focus of the liberal-dominated Main Stream Media (MSM):

One incident stands out in my mind from Election Night 2016, when a blubbering apparatchik came wandering out of the Javits Center. So, a reporter started asking her questions and this apparatchik started whining about the market being shut down and all of the horrible things that were happening.

The reporter merely encouraged that behavior and probably gave her tissue or maybe chopped an onion to produce more tears. This lady probably didn't know the different between the stock market and the Hunts Point Produce Market. She probably would have parroted the comment if someone muttered darkly about the weakness of the New York Jets' corner backs (it's because Trump won).

An impartial journalist would have asked questions. Oh, you follow the market? Do you like Growth or Income? Are you a momentum player? Do trade options? How did you feel when US markets dropped after President Obama was re-elected?

An impartial journalist would have asked those questions, but the reporter on the scene didn’t. Instead, he or she allowed that apparatchik to blubber on and fuel the victim narrative the MSM was pushing that night.
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yes I agree , real impartial journalists are few and far between , that was basically what I tried to say over the last few posts
 
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I have no idea who will win, I care but mainly I hope they do the right things to get people to better the COVID situation.
 
DireWolf98 said:
My friend, I never implied or expressed the view that any news outlet should "lie." Please don't falsely portray my comments. My point involves news coverage and editorial focus.

Once again, an example of that flawed focus of the liberal-dominated Main Stream Media (MSM):

One incident stands out in my mind from Election Night 2016, when a blubbering apparatchik came wandering out of the Javits Center. So, a reporter started asking her questions and this apparatchik started whining about the market being shut down and all of the horrible things that were happening.

The reporter merely encouraged that behavior and probably gave her tissue or maybe chopped an onion to produce more tears. This lady probably didn't know the different between the stock market and the Hunts Point Produce Market. She probably would have parroted the comment if someone muttered darkly about the weakness of the New York Jets' corner backs (it's because Trump won).

An impartial journalist would have asked questions. Oh, you follow the market? Do you like Growth or Income? Are you a momentum player? Do trade options? How did you feel when US markets dropped after President Obama was re-elected?

An impartial journalist would have asked those questions, but the reporter on the scene didn’t. Instead, he or she allowed that apparatchik to blubber on and fuel the victim narrative the MSM was pushing that night.
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What's funny is that on election night 2016, I was acting comms director for a big political event and designated media liaison, so I was holed-up in a situation room with a bunch of reporters from both print and tv news. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, was operating on the absolute assumption that Hillary was going to win, and to be honest I don't think anyone was even interested in her race because we were there that night to focus on two very tight federal and state races. The second print-out had come and everyone was glued to the multiple screens, chatting nervously and tapping on their smart phones.

And nobody was even paying attention as Ohio, and then Pennsylvania, and then Michigan (by then I'm starting to notice) and then Wisconsin (by now I've put down my iPhone) all go to Trump and he's solidly ahead in the electoral count. I lean over to the female print reporter next to me, a (very liberal) friend from many past campaigns:

ME: Does that count include CA and NY?

GIRL: (Half ignoring me) Uhhhh...I don't know. Don't think so. Why?

ME: Look at the map! That number counts CA and NY.

GIRL: Huh? So what?

ME: DUMB ASS! TRUMP FUCKING WON!!

GIRL: Whaaat? Shut the fuck up.

At that point I get up and shout at the group, "ASSHOLES! LOOK AT THE MAP!! TRUMP FLIPPED THE ENTIRE FUCKING MIDWEST!! CALI IS DONE. NEW YORK IS DONE. HE WON THE FUCKING ELECTION!!"

What followed was probably two minutes of stunned silence. Everyone was just looking around the room, like someone had just died. And then the reality started setting in live on TV, as national reporters were slowly coming to terms with what had just happened. Most of them couldn't even bring themselves to say it: Trump has won the election.

I look at my friend and all she can mouth is, "WHAT...THE...FUCK???" I was just as stunned, so I stood up and went outside to grab a beer from the open bar. When I came back, I was treated to one of the finest television experiences of my life: Watching weepy, teary-eyed, bitch-ass snowflakes sobbing and wailing at the Clinton election night HQ.

Anyhow, I flew to Osaka the very next day for my usual post-election vacation to catch up with friends and hit the Shinchi just for good measure. It was pure gold being overseas and watching how the rest of the world was having a fucking panic attack. I came home and worked with that liberal reporter friend on a couple of post-election pieces. We had both also just gotten out of relationships and ended up having drunken sex at my condo one night. I'm very bi-partisan.
 
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Keihan said:
I'm very bi-partisan.
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Does that mean you like boys, girls and guns equally?

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MikeH said:
Does that mean you like boys, girls and guns equally?

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Boys (in wigs), maybe, but girls and guns are where I draw the line. Armed females are a dating hazard. I want absolute assurance that when I've grabbed my clothes and try sneaking off in the middle of the night, I won't get shot in the back on the way out. That's why I always liked having flings with liberal women. They fuck Asian guys just to prove how open-minded and socially-progressive they are, and you know they won't have any weapons at home. At the very worst I'll have old Birkenstocks or Kashi bars thrown at me from the apartment window while I run for my car but I can run faster than most of those non-exercising potheads can throw.
 
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SugoiBoy said:
Sad how there is so much hatred and stupidity these days.
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:(

Yup, which is why we’ll probably wind up with Trump in the White House for another 4 years.

(Man, The Simpsons really nailed it back in 2000);)
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5 minutes to go until the next debate.
Any guesses on what the unexpected surprise will be this time??
 
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5 minutes to go until the next debate.
Any guesses on what the unexpected surprise will be this time??
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the only real surprise is that I'm watching it
 
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just4fun said:
the only real surprise is that I'm watching it
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Let me know if they discuss something important; like the love hotel prices in Tokyo area.
 
MikeH said:
Let me know if they discuss something important; like the love hotel prices in Tokyo area.
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No, but by that measure I suppose you never watch any show, movie, serie, any kind of entertainment really. Not even porn :)
 
Frenchy said:
No, but by that measure I suppose you never watch any show, movie, serie, any kind of entertainment really. Not even porn :)
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Sorry, my bad. I didn't realise presidential debate is supposed to be entertainment. And surely, if those two start doing porn I won't be watching. :yuck:
 
MikeH said:
Sorry, my bad. I didn't realise presidential debate is supposed to be entertainment. And surely, if those two start doing porn I won't be watching. :yuck:
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They are not supposed to be entertainment ... but they are !
 
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Frenchy said:
They are not supposed to be entertainment ... but they are !
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I think that will cement your status as the biggest pervert in this site! :D
 
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