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[User#16452]

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[meiji]

Most of the escorts I've seen have been via Preferred 411 which have a pretty decent system. A provider that's seen you can give you an 'okay', which makes the guy more or less legit without the provider having to go out of her way to talk to a bunch of other providers.

 

[MossBoss]

I agree with everything User#16452 says. People need to get their shit sorted out.

Regards

MossBoss

 

[User#8628]

Only been asked once by a client.
He asked me to contact an American escort and tell her i met him and how it was.
I mailed her and told her he was a nice guy and does have enough money. We exchanged a few mails and she got a bit clingly, not sure if she wanted be sure i was real (i showed her i'm on the TAG vertified escort list and such) or if she's lonely or something.
I didn't hear back from them if they got together and how it was. Hope things worked out well.

 

[hkAlone]

It is my understanding that many escorts demand references, mainly in UK and US.
These ladies, I guess, are more comfortable getting references with established escorts popular on Twitter with many followers.
It is actually a very common practice abroad.
I have to admit that I tend to suggest to contact the few escorts I have been long term client with, when I introduce myself to a new escort. I thought that would make a new escort more comfortable dealing with me.
I didn't get that such things could be seen as rude or improper...

 

[User#8628]

I don't mind it personally as long as i dont get flooted with those requests. Problem is that except for being known on TAG i don't really work on my public image so it might concern those escorts, but i'm working on changing this.

I think that if a client has been a good customer and a gentleman, i'd always gladly do him the favor!
If he seems unthankful (like writing no review himself in spite of saying he would, as jblair mentioned) then it's another case.

 

[MikeH]

I didn't get that such things could be seen as rude or improper...

Well, I haven't done any escorting (I don't feel confident enough about my boobs for that) but in other areas of business it is common sense that if you want to use someone as a reference you ask them first.

I just spend an hour of my Sunday on phone giving a reference to one of my ex-underlings. That's time I could have used differently for important stuff like for example watching porn, but he had the common sense and manners to call me yesterday and ask nicely. He was considered for a new position and urgently needed a reference.

If I instead would suddenly just have got the phone call from the potential employer tonight I would in best case told the caller I'm busy and in worst case that I'm not interested to give any referrals.

What everyone should understand is that when you ask for a referral you are asking the person to put his/her credibility and reputation on the line for you. So ask before, ask nicely and say thanks afterwards! [/end-rant]

 

[User#16452]

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[meiji]

Yes, this is something I plan to participate in once I join P411. It seems like a much safer and more equal system.

Of course, I've seen a provider listing or two on P411 where the provider wants okays AND references, which kind of defeats the purpose IMO.

 

[Blimon]

I am not a eloquent writer. However some of the members hear write as is they wrote for Penthouse stories at one time or another. So exactly what should a review contain? Truth? With a chance of getting blacklisted because of a bad review? Most references as stated in this tread are required in the US or UK. In the US its just bad! Without providing you name, work address, manager etc... it's just hard to meet a provider. The few I have seen on business trips to California or Nevada have mostly NEVER looked like their photos. I wouldn't say bait and switch, but used photos of what they may have looked like 20 years ago. While service was always fine I was still disappointed because I was looking for exceptional beauty. Is this what most reviews should contain? Or what kind of evaluation should we be writing? I know we can't please everyone all time, but is a bad review better than none at all?

 

[User#16452]

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[Wwanderer]

I have never been a fan of the system (of guys getting references from escorts they have seen previously) and have used it as little as possible myself. It is subject to a variety of abuses and COIs.

That said, outcall escorts must take such significant risks when meeting a stranger in private (especially in the US and many other places outside Japan), that I am willing to tolerate whatever steps they need to take to feel and be more secure.

@User#16452 is obviously right, imo, that it is rude to ask an escort or anyone else for a reference without checking with them in advance to see if it is ok.

-Ww

 

[Manami TMK]

I have had a couple of reference requests from both clients and escorts.
When the clients were nice and caused no problem, I don't mind doing it however, what if they were not very nice and honestly I cannot recommend other escorts to see them?
I would like to be honest with them. (What is the point of requiring a reference if it is dishonest?)
But if I tell them the truth, most likely they wouldn't arrange a date with the clients and clients would recognize why...

 

[hkAlone]

Well, I haven't done any escorting (I don't feel confident enough about my boobs for that) but in other areas of business it is common sense that if you want to use someone as a reference you ask them first.

I just spend an hour of my Sunday on phone giving a reference to one of my ex-underlings. That's time I could have used differently for important stuff like for example watching porn, but he had the common sense and manners to call me yesterday and ask nicely. He was considered for a new position and urgently needed a reference.

If I instead would suddenly just have got the phone call from the potential employer tonight I would in best case told the caller I'm busy and in worst case that I'm not interested to give any referrals.

What everyone should understand is that when you ask for a referral you are asking the person to put his/her credibility and reputation on the line for you. So ask before, ask nicely and say thanks afterwards! [/end-rant]

It happens that I am getting the same kind of requests on a regular basis during the course of my professional activity.
If one of my ex-employees, team mates, informed his new employer he could get in touch with me, I have no issue to answer such mails or calls, even if I was not informed about it beforehand. Usually it is a matter of a few minutes to give such feedbacks (and my ex staff usually assumes I will be quite positive in my feedback).

Of course, if one of my ex-staff is asking for a reference letter, it usually take me thirty minutes to an hour to make the job properly. As such I would do it or not, based on the quality of the relationship.

It is very context dependent (activity, nature of the relationship and culture).
I guess I'm not uptight myself about these things reason why I would tolerate it from others.

But, but ... point taken. I should not assume it's ok, even after a long term p4p relationship.

 

[Mischa Maxwell]

I have provided several references to other ladies, but the men were nice enough to ask me first.

Getting an email from an escort that I don't know to ask for a reference when I haven't been asked by the guy first makes me a little cranky. I feel that it's rude.

I have three referees listed on my real life CV. But I did ask these people first if they would be willing to provide a reference for me.

I also flick them a text or email if I apply for a job, that way they know that they can expect a phone call. The same courtesy needs to be extended in p4p situations.