About bisexuality

[Jplove]

Women bisexuality seems to be more accepted than men bisexuality.

Even if I describe myself as straight, I have recently discovered the joy of giving blow job and really loved it. I was told I was naturally very gifted.

I am curious to heard about other guys if they have already experienced bisexual play and how they liked it and how is it viewed by the women in this forum (particularly if you see you partner suddenly giving someone a BJ during a threesome).

 

[TAG Manager]

I am curious to heard about other guys if they have already experienced bisexual play and how they liked it and how is it viewed by the women in this forum (particularly if you see you partner suddenly giving someone a BJ during a threesome).

I doubt people are going to out themselves here, especially if they already have a long history here. (I could be wrong?)

Even if I describe myself as straight, I have recently discovered the joy of giving blow job and really loved it. I was told I was naturally very gifted.

If you enjoyed doing it, then more power to you. I definitely feel there's more social disdain about two men together than two women, but you know what? Gay porn still ranks right up there with the best of them. So there either is even more gay/bisexual people in the world, either out or hiding in the closet.

To date, I've never been in the same room where this was happening. So, I don't know how I'd feel about it personally but I think I wouldn't care so much. I've also never been approached in a gay or bisexual situation. Everything I've experienced thus far has been male/female sharing heterosexually.

At the end of the day, do what makes you happy. Just be safe about it, no matter what you're into.

Forgive me for being curious, but how exactly did this come up to you? Did you get approached or did it happen during a 3P session as you mentioned at the end?

 

[Jplove]

It happened after meeting a couple at a party. We stayed connected and a few days later the husband invited me to a drink after work. The conversation came very quickly about sex and he was very direct with me asking if I had ever given a BJ. May be the alcohol (of course ....) was the reason but we ended in a love hotel in roppongi. We gave each other HJ ans BJ. First time and really love it. We have done it 3 times since.

 

[User#8628]

@Quietlife openly talks about being bisexual here on the forum.

There are also some other guys posting reviews here about crossdressers and such, so i'm sure some people here can relate about the blowjobs thing.

Personally i think bisexual men are cool because they are more open and liberated. I dont like the "no homo" culture and i'm happy that men in Japan can be more feminine and touchy with each other without getting shamed for it like in the west.

I do worry about playing with bisexual men because of diseases though. Guys who only do blowjobs and stuff are cool, but i'm a bit hesitant to play with a man who does anal with other men. Anal is just the most high risk.

 

[TAG Manager]

I do worry about playing with bisexual men because of diseases though. Guys who only do blowjobs and stuff are cool, but i'm a bit hesitant to play with a man who does anal with other men. Anal is just the most high risk.

Well, like all other aspects, they should be exercising caution in regular activities.

Personally i think bisexual men are cool because they are more open and liberated. I dont like the "no homo" culture and i'm happy that men in Japan can be more feminine and touchy with each other without getting shamed for it like in the west.

Insecurity abound...

I did, however, grow-up with the idea that anything that wasn't hetero was bad. Luckily, I got an education and got some international exposure that changed my way of thinking and came to accept that people should be free to do whatever they'd like and be with whomever they'd like.

 

[vondoom]

strangely japan doesnt like homosexuality at all, unless its on tv, foreign, or has high entertainment value

 

[warubuta]

@Quietlife openly talks about being bisexual here on the forum.

There are also some other guys posting reviews here about crossdressers and such, so i'm sure some people here can relate about the blowjobs thing.

Personally i think bisexual men are cool because they are more open and liberated. I dont like the "no homo" culture and i'm happy that men in Japan can be more feminine and touchy with each other without getting shamed for it like in the west.

I do worry about playing with bisexual men because of diseases though. Guys who only do blowjobs and stuff are cool, but i'm a bit hesitant to play with a man who does anal with other men. Anal is just the most high risk.

Am I less cool in your estimation because I am hetero and not bi?

 

[TheScientist]

Personally i think bisexual men are cool because they are more open and liberated.

Lots of guys who enjoy cock every now and then are in fact pretty secretive about it and about as liberated as the pope. Maybe you are projecting a bit here.

i'm happy that men in Japan can be more feminine and touchy with each other without getting shamed for it like in the west.

Just because they carry purses and wear pretty shoes don't mean what you seem to think. Young or old, lots of em have some damn nasty things to say in private in regards to men who enjoy the company of other men in bed.

 

[warubuta]

strangely japan doesnt like homosexuality at all, unless its on tv, foreign, or has high entertainment value

I don't know if that is totally true. In the last 10 years or so I have seen, for example, a big change in how corporate Japan deals with homosexuality. Management has grudgingly become very sensitized to the issue and many companies go out of their way now to make sure that homosexuals get fair treatment in the workplace. Making any kind of remark about another employees sexuality is career suicide in most big companies now. Was not that way 10 years ago. But I agree in general with your point about Japanese loving gays as long as they are only on TV. I love Matsuko Deluxe but I sometimes wonder if she is not doing a disservice to the cause. She is an outrageous curiosity. We need more serious and mainstream gays like Anderson Cooper in Japan. He kicks ass and he happens to be gay.

 

[Quietlife]

It seems that the discussion has moved from bisexuality to homosexuality as usual. Sadly, it is a common misconception that bisexuals are homosexual. We are not. Heterosexual behaviour is more similar to homosexual behaviour in that their sexual desire (or emotional/mental needs) is mostly limited to one gender.

As a bisexual, I see a person not a gender. It is true that a substantial percentage of 'straight' men are interested in cock, but in my experience, their concentration on cock is sometimes about rejection of deeper feelings due to societal pressure. In my case, I started with a cock-obsession, but gradually moved into the far more intimate situation of kissing and cuddling. This wasn't an easy transition as it meant accepting my desire was not purely sexual. I have a married friend who is currently going through this process and it's interesting to see him understanding himself more and more.

The secretive nature of many bisexuals is complex but understandable as we have a lot to lose if our loved ones can't accept it. And to be honest, it seems many people don't 'trust' bisexuals as they don't necessarily fit into standard relationships based on 'possession'. We are also often accused if being sexual disease carriers. Labels are normal in society of course, and usual for people who have little understanding of the full spectrum of human nature.

So I have to say to bisexuals, be careful who you tell. Prejudice runs deep, even in people who believe themselves to be free-thinking. Snide comments and ignorance abound. But personally, the benefits of bisexuality outweigh the demerits; being able to connect with people regardless of their outward appearance is one advantage, the ability to find someone to play with is another. But finding a life-partner who understands fully is not so easy unless they know from the outset that you are bi.

 

[faboo2001]

There are also some other guys posting reviews here about crossdressers and such, so i'm sure some people here can relate about the blowjobs thing.

I guess that includes me....

But seriously, I can definitely relate with jplove. I consider myself to be straight, but don't mind looking at cock and sometimes have a desire to play with one once in a while (other than my own of course). I know, sounds like I'm in denial or something but hear me out.

I guess I'm comfortable enough to share on this forum that yeah, I've experimented with guys when I was younger. When you think about it, it's almost a no-brainer: a guy knows what a guy likes, so why not partake if the offer is on the table? And similar to how it can be a major turn on to go down on a girl and make her moan in pleasure, I too can also get same sexual gratification when playing with someone else's cock. However what complicates things a bit is that all of my gay experiences lacked any intimacy, where any attempt of kissing or intimate touching just made me super uncomfortable and even revolted me at times. Basically excluding the penis, there's nothing about the male figure that I find sexually or intimately attractive. This doesn't mean I have anything against same sex relationship nor am I not able to appreciate a nicely chiseled body, it just doesn't arouse me at all.

So because of that, labeling the act of playing with another person's penis as "gay" just doesn't make sense to me as my attraction to the guy is practically zero. And with what Quietlife has shared, even being labeled as "bisexual" doesn't quiet make sense either since the outside appearance clearly matters to me. In fact take the "guy" out of the picture and give a hot girl the penis, and it's like the PERFECT situation for me!

strangely japan doesnt like homosexuality at all, unless its on tv, foreign, or has high entertainment value

Isn't it true that love hotels don't allow gay couples to use their rooms, assuming there's someone working as a receptionist at said hotel?

 

[TAG Manager]

Isn't it true that love hotels don't allow gay couples to use their rooms, assuming there's someone working as a receptionist at said hotel?

There are some that explicitly allow it. We had a discussion about it before somewhere.

 

[Jishin]

I don't think this is such a big deal these days. I'm turned on by watching another man go at it in porn, often multiple men with one women. I don't think it's such a big stretch to bisexual activity. I had been think about it trying it for real for a while.

That said there was an Australian escort who came thru town earlier this year who offered MMF sessions with her boyfriend. I decided to give it a shot and while I don't regret it at all, it was a bit awkward. I enjoyed the cock touching, but wasn't really into the oral sex (and never considered anything beyond that). Maybe it was first time jitters.

What turned me on most was mostly being with the couple while they were going at it. Sort of like a real life porno, where I could join in.

This led me to want to try to set up some MMF 3p action, which I started to inquire about here but never consummated... anyone still interested drop me a message

 

[User#8628]

Isn't it true that love hotels don't allow gay couples to use their rooms, assuming there's someone working as a receptionist at said hotel?

Interesting. I heard that that is because "homosexuals leave the room more messy" and always kind of believed it, but indeed, XO is a cheap and popular hotel without a receptionist and they allow two men getting a room together. Its not like they cant keep them out because there isn't a receptionist because they definitely have someone watching the lobby with cameras and if you come in as a threesome, or even as two foreigners sometimes, the staff will come out and talk to you (in case of threesome to tell you it costs extra and in case of foreigners to check if you can understand the payment machine). So whats up with that? Its shameful for a receptionist to check in homosexuals or something? Whats the idea behind it?

 

[MikeH]

In fact take the "guy" out of the picture and give a hot girl the penis, and it's like the PERFECT situation for me!

Fortunately for you that does exist!

But this is very interesting subject and it still feels there are lot of misconceptions and even fear about it all. To me it seems that the most prejudice is still shown by the girlfriends of the guys who even hint at liking something else than girls; must be the fear of not being able to stay competitive.

I have visited plenty enough gay bars and even glory hole places that I know I am not attracted at all by the male body. It just does nothing to me. I am pretty sure I could easily and without any repulsion jerk a guy off or even give him a blowjob, but that would not even feel like a sexual act to me. Here is your coffee sir, and would you like to have sugar or a hand job with it too?

 

[Quietlife]

Here is your coffee sir, and would you like to have sugar or a hand job with it too?

Starbucks are always recruiting such customer-service oriented individuals. A new career awaits

 

[MikeH]

Starbucks are always recruiting such customer-service oriented individuals. A new career awaits

Actually that would at last explain to me why people go to Starbucks.

 

[jhingy567]

Starbucks are always recruiting such customer-service oriented individuals. A new career awaits

I know this isn't related to hand jobs, but I've noticed Starbucks around the world, especially in (Western countries) to have a high proportion employees openly part of LGBT community (e.g they have a rainbow badge with 'proud to be gay/bi' , or are obvious cross-dressers or similar) it's cool actually because the mainstream service industry isn't always keen on hiring openly LGBT people.

 

[TheScientist]

I know this isn't related to hand jobs, but I've noticed Starbucks around the world, especially in (Western countries) to have a high proportion employees openly part of LGBT community (e.g they have a rainbow badge with 'proud to be gay/bi' , or are obvious cross-dressers or similar) it's cool actually because the mainstream service industry isn't always keen on hiring openly LGBT people.

Gives a whole new spin on the question "does this coffee taste queer to you?"

 

[RightOn6975]

During the Iron Age and I would say up until Christianity became the dominate religion in the area, bisexuality was accepted. Hell the term for anal sex is Greek, I wonder why (insert thinking face emoji here). I honestly believe that the numbers of men are bi or gay maybe much higher. We as a society tend to accept bi and gay women more so than bi and gay men. Just look at porn for example, even though it is primarily driven towards the male fantasy, men have no problem with seeing a woman having sex or kissing another woman than they would a man on another man, and I suspect it's the same for women as well. Our society has fostered the STRONG male image and anything that can be perceived as weakness we shun, hence why my opinion.

 

[TheScientist]

During the Iron Age and I would say up until Christianity became the dominate religion in the area, bisexuality was accepted.

First off, which region? Secondly the whole statement requires a massive Citation Needed

Hell the term for anal sex is Greek,

Thats the phrase in English. In other languages its different and in most languages the slang changes over time.

Also see here http://www.straightdope.com/columns...nely-practice-incest-as-well-as-homosexuality

Our society has fostered the STRONG male image and anything that can be perceived as weakness we shun, hence why my opinion.

Although Feminist Propaganda 101 would have us believe this is somehow uniquely Western, in fact "our" here applies to pretty much all humanity throughout almost all history. The exceptions do not prove the rule.

 

[User#8628]

During the Iron Age and I would say up until Christianity became the dominate religion in the area, bisexuality was accepted. Hell the term for anal sex is Greek, I wonder why (insert thinking face emoji here). I honestly believe that the numbers of men are bi or gay maybe much higher. We as a society tend to accept bi and gay women more so than bi and gay men. Just look at porn for example, even though it is primarily driven towards the male fantasy, men have no problem with seeing a woman having sex or kissing another woman than they would a man on another man, and I suspect it's the same for women as well. Our society has fostered the STRONG male image and anything that can be perceived as weakness we shun, hence why my opinion.

From what i heard, homosexuality used to be a thing between samurai as well.
It used to stand for manliness in a lot of cultures in the past.

 

[ShowaJidai]

Cannibalism, slavery and human sacrifice were all also accepted in the past. So?

Heck, in this supposedly more enlightened world we keep machines that can destroy all human civilization in an hour and have leaders who can drone strike wedding parties "accidentally" without anybody giving a fcuk. Humanity's progress is somewhat debatable .

 

[psd]

As a bisexual, I see a person not a gender.

This is interesting to me. On the Kinsey scale I'm absolutely a zero, I've dated bi women and that wasn't an issue to me at all as I've been the primary partner. Each has said the same thing.

One woman and her best friend would have sex reqularly and we'd often hang out with her and her boyfriend. Much to our chagrin, there was absolutely never any chance of me or him having a 3P with the two girls, neither girl was interested in the other's guy.

A FWB I'm seeing at the moment also has a female FWB.

I know there is nothing really to explain but it's kind of weird to me that these women are attracted to gorgeous women but are also attracted to me, well I don't understand why any woman is attraced to me. It's not a hangup or something I worry about, I just don't understand it.

 

[Quietlife]

I know there is nothing really to explain but it's kind of weird to me that these women are attracted to gorgeous women but are also attracted to me, well I don't understand why any woman is attraced to me. It's not a hangup or something I worry about, I just don't understand it.

I can't explain it either. For example, yesterday I had sex with my female partner, who is small, slim, cute and busty, but last Tuesday I was kissing and blowing a 60-something balding Japanese guy I know. I have no idea why I can be attracted to such different people apart from enjoying the feeling of connection and sharing with another person (or people).