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Aile D'Or - Ruru

Discussion in 'Esute/Pink Salon/Massage Reviews' started by Mike27, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. Mike27

    Mike27 TAG Member

    Jan 21, 2016
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    Service and/or Provider's Name:

    Date of Encounter:
    January 2017

    Contact Method:
    Walk in

    Appointment Length & Costs:
    120min 40k


    Language Notes:
    Japanese only

    Details of the Encounter:
    First I want to thank Soapysoap66 for this thread as it has been of great help. I wanted to try a soapland for the first time, so I wanted a cheap pleace since I feared I could blow it up and better to get regrets over 30k than over 70k yen.

    My first option was Yua from Heart&Heart in yokohama, since I readed this review and thought it would be great to have a first experience like that. I researched japanese forums and her shame nikki and I was ready to go for the adventure. I last checked online around 3 am and everything was ok. Today is thursday and she works from 9 am. Let's do this!

    I woke up at 8am and checked again, and she dissapeared. His nikki gone, her profile page empty, and her place in the rankings of the site missing. Did she had to stop working there just today? I don't know. I'll keep checking if she appears again the next weeks.


    Anyway, Yokohama option was off. So better go to yoshiwara, it's closer. I checked Soapysoap66's thread for a cheap place, I wanted something like 80-90 mins for less than 30k. I saved the dream's group shops on google maps, and also platinum stage.

    I went in subway to Minowa station and walked. I was nervous at the persons in the doors when they called me. Some didn't even look at me, so I thought "this place has no interest in gaijins". I did one or two rounds and when I was heading to platinum stage I got called by a guy from the other side of the street. It was Aile D'Or. Didn't research on them so I didn't know the prices or anything, but I followed him inside and they took me to a karaoke-like room.

    Then the guy bring only one card with a photo, Ruru. Not much to choose from, uh. The fotos where good, he then brought a big abum with more photos. Then we discussed money. I told him it was my first soapland, and I was looking for an active, genki girl will would lead. I knew I was gonna be quite nervous so I wanted the girl to be able to make me relax and enjoy.
    He assured me Ruru was very friendly and genki, so I decided well, first time cant be always perfect.

    He told me the shop price is 70-80k. My budget was 30k so he went out and came back each time I bargained more. I told him I was going to return in 15mins (lied I needed to consult a friend), but he left the room and I tried to research about the place asap. They advertize themselves as "kokyu" and the price in soapysoap66 guideline was 80k, so I accepted at 40k.

    There was only one girl, so if she was bad it wasn't because I bargained but because I was gaijin or really she was the only one.
    I payed, and went to a waiting room. There was only one old man that got called first.

    Then I was called and she took me to the third floor. She was NOT like in the photos. Her face was rounder, she had much more belly and waist fat and her legs were fatter. Just about to be called "chubby" I think, still pretty average face. Her boobs were nice and soft, that was her best feature I think. She said she was 25 (her profile says 21)


    About the experience, i have to say that it was NOT good.

    She was not into it at all. After some chit chat (during which she did look at my eyes), she never looked back at me, even during the plays she closed her eyes or looked away.

    Also she took and excesive ammount of time preparing each thing. I didn't know because it was my first time there, but I really felt she was wasting time on purpose.

    She was not into kissing, not into blowjobs (later I found on her profile that bj are her "tokuiwaza". bullshit. if she ever stroked 10 times with her mouth -and with condom ofc- that is saying too much), not into me doing her cunni and fingers was NG from the start.

    After the chat, we got naked, she told me to wait in the bathtub while she prepared the sukebeisu. Then I sat there and just then I started to touch her and got hard when she washed my dick.

    After that, waiting in bathtub again while she prepared the mat.
    The mat was fun, but I have to say that both the washing and the mat where quite soft, I expected more weight on me, more feeling, more touch. Sometimes I even had to look to see if she was touching me or not because I didn't feel shit.

    If that counts as an relaxing massage, i got ripped of.
    I asked her to suck me and she put a condom on me and started hj. What?

    I started touching her to see if I can get some reaction out of there and it was good for a while. I asked her for 69 and then she did suck me a bit but mostly handjob. She has cute moans when played with her breast but damn she was NOT into it.

    She mounted me and I have to say doing it on a mat is hard for a newbie.
    She kept mounting and me playing with her breast and every now and then some tongue kisses (not even french kisses, just sticking out the tongue wich I don't particularly like).

    I was hard but not near to coming and switched to missionary where I tried hard to come.
    After all, shower again and talking, sitting on the bed. 1:30 has passed.

    I mean... she spent so many time preparing that I could only do one shot on the mat. Not even could do DS that is my favorite position. Mat is fun, but for sex I prefer the bed and I also would like to make my partner feel good but she didn't seem open to that.

    Everything was so cold and robotic. I wanted something more like a GFE.
    We left the room 15mins before time out.

    Then came the tencho who asked me how was it and I told him all that. That it was my first time so i didnt know how much time preparing things take, but I felt she was wasting time, that she never looked me back or kissed or even did a decent blowjob.

    Surprisingly the tencho was incredibly friendly and apologized numerous times. He gave me his card and told me to call his mobile number and he would introduce me better girls, he brought the photo book and told me which ones were more into GFE and more active and so… and that the fotos were “almost” not touched (in Ruru’s case, she was like that when she joined but got chubbier just recently). I told him that still it was out of my budget and he told me that next time he will make me price for 50k.

    He was so friendly and understanding that I really wanted to come again and try a better girl.
    After that they called me a free taxi to Uguisudani station.

    But my thoughts were:

    1. They wanted me to pay 70k for Ruru, which was awful and clearly wasn’t in the mood for anything (she was nice and polite, but man, not even tried sucking me!) and that would have been a bigger ripoff. What if the other girls are like that too?
    2. He re-re-re-assured me that the photos weren’t photoshoped just a little lightning and the skin, but I seriously doubt it. The “new faces” supposedly are from within 3 months, so they should be more like their photos.
    3. Ruru also gave me her card with a “thank you” in japanese and an email address. Is this address hers? Or is some guy of the store managing those accounts?

    Final Thoughts:
    Not Recommended.

    Closing Comments:
    I don't recommend her. Maybe she had a bad day (I was her first costumer thou), and even if I bargained I still payed money for a service that sucked.

    Still I want to try soap again, but I don't know what to do. I got the feeling that I anywhere I go I could find those "jirai", specially at cheaper places. But maybe after talking with tencho and calling him beforehand I could get a better experience.

    So, what do you recommend? new girl in same place or new place altogether?

    edit: just checked her profile in the "members" version of the site (with photos in underwear) and damn that's a quite good photoshop work.
    #1 Mike27, Jan 6, 2017
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2017
  2. DocMcStuffins

    DocMcStuffins TAG Member

    Nov 5, 2015
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    If you want gfe, perhaps skip soaplands?
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  3. ur19877

    ur19877 TAG Member

    Jun 9, 2016
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    Sorry to hear that.... Soaplands have been pretty hit or miss for me...but knowing you will get FS and liking mat play keeps me coming back...
    To me the uncertainties are looks and service..which is why I won't spend too much (<40K)..
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  4. Hofmeyer

    Hofmeyer TAG Member

    Nov 15, 2013
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    You got punished for bargaining too much. If it's too much, just leave and find a better place.
  5. Rusty Trombone

    Rusty Trombone TAG Member

    Sep 16, 2016
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    Gotta agree with this.

    With the woman working on a percentage you cut her fee in half. I'm not sure I'd be happy working for half my usual rate.
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  6. just4fun

    just4funjust4fun is a Verified Member Skeptical? Who me?

    Jul 25, 2014
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    True, but something is better than nothing......
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  7. Soapysoap66

    Soapysoap66 Soapland hobbyist

    Jan 12, 2016
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    Like I've said before, this group is not recommended, at least not by me. There is too much bullshit going on. Dream group is also terrible btw. Sorry about your experience. I just finished my first session of 2017, seven to go.
  8. AliceInWonderland

    AliceInWonderlandAliceInWonderland is a Verified Member Companion

    Dec 20, 2015
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    Yes, and it seems like this shop particulary gets even more bad reviews than sister shop Make Up where at least the girls are professional and do their best even though the tout is a shady man and the pictures not accurate.
    This one has very bad reviews about the girls also.
  9. Kisser

    Kisser TAG Member

    Dec 26, 2016
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    私 は 電話 し て 9万/120分でした
  10. SatoKM

    SatoKM TAG Member

    Jun 8, 2016
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    Hello Mike27!

    I guess I inspired you to go to "Heart and Heart" soapland and get service by Yua. I truly believe that soapland can be a "roulette", hit or miss experience, so please do not feel disappointed or discouraged. EVERYBODY have had bad experiences.

    I can't say I am an experienced "fuzoku user". Honestly, I had experienced less than 10 Fuzoku encounters in my whole life.

    But I would like to give you some pieces of advice (that had worked for me):
    • Check what is your budget for the night. Try never to bargain for a discount (if you have a 40K budget, find a place that the service will be around that amount of money). As someone else explained, women get "cut" from the discount you get and it's likely that she will not be very inspired to pleased you. As she will service you for a lower fee.
    • Usually prices are directly related with the quality of the girls (cheap prices places are very likely to find below average women and bad service).
    • Small details can get you to great or extra service! When I use Deriheru or Hoteru, I usually stop by a pastry/bakery store and buy some kind of dessert for the girl I will be meeting. This "little detail" helps me to break the ice and it means a lot to the girls. Girls tend to be more open and receptive, even offer you extra things that normally aren't included in their service (if you know what I mean). Tell nice comments about the way she looks, smile and treat them like they are a girlfriend of yours.
    • If you know Japanese, try to get reviews from Japanese websites regarding the place and the girls you are interested in. That will increase the chances that you will have a great experience!
    I hope this will help you for your future encounters!
  11. ghoust.lansex

    ghoust.lansex TAG Member

    Mar 26, 2016
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    sorry you had a bad experience,
  12. Ken1988

    Ken1988 oh, you again

    Aug 23, 2016
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    The shop's website says Yen 30,000 entrance fee - which means the total amount to be paid by a client is in the range between Y90,000 and Y80,000 and the girl's share is Y60,000-Y50,000. It seems to me that the shop gave the OP a very special deal. As the discount cut into the girl's share, I wouldn't be surprised that the girl was really discouraged.
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  13. Soapysoap66

    Soapysoap66 Soapland hobbyist

    Jan 12, 2016
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    Normally you would be right but they seem to be very willing to lower their price to around 45k which is very unusual and shady.
    So they are either
    A: Trying to get 90k from suckers when the actual price is half.
    B: Have certain girls that accept lower pay that they use for hagglers.
    C: Don't take any cut at all for the cheap price in order to keep some girls working.

    This coupled with the utter bullshit profiles of the girls adds up to warning signs.
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  14. Ken1988

    Ken1988 oh, you again

    Aug 23, 2016
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    You are right. I found similar complaints to the OP's in a Japanese forum.

    Thank you @Mike27 for sharing your experience honestly.
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