Amateur men's estute experiences

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Inspired by previous posts and some vague recollection of men's estute/esthe therapists posting videos on pornhub through their company, I decided to book with a place recommended that accepts foreigners. No specifics to avoid anything unnecessary happening, but I can relay info via DM. The info provided on the shop, including therapist pictures and descriptions is pretty on the spot. They definitely use filters, but compared to how they look in person, it's not the result of somebody getting crazy with photoshop.

I photo nominated this girl who charges an extra fee on top of the shop's regular price. I chose her because of her pictures and her profile mentioned being a model/race queen at some point, and it ended up being a bit under 30k total. Looks-wise, she was definitely worthy of having a good following on twitter/instagram. The actual apartment I arrive at is kind of dingy, with the bathroom being pretty compact. I figured out how to use the sponge scrub with soap, there's also some mouthwash and kami pants ready to use. They were all basically like this so I won't repeat that. She gave me a decent massage with me facing down, and when I flipped over she gave some close contact after finishing the hot oil on my legs. No contact after that but she did end up giving me a HJ and asked me to remember her the next time I'm in Japan since she was busy for the rest of the month. We had some conversation, but she did seem kind of not my type. Not a bad girl or anything though.

Next girl was pretty nice but I ended up not getting any extras from her. From reviews I found, she had a 10k HJ option and/or naked for 10k but no touching. Perhaps it's only when people asked or she thought I seemed too nice to be asking for a HJ. Perhaps I got a too buddy-buddy with her when talking and that's why she didn't bring it up but whatever. Lol she ended up giving me a snack as a "present" before I left and I was kind of surprised, not in a good way. I figured she was offloading some snacks some other customer gave her but it was the first session she was available for the day so probably not. Just kind of weird.

Last girl, her profile did say that she did gravure as work, at least part time. Most of her pictures on her shop twitter showed most of her face, with some stuff obscured and a filter in place. But they were decently comparable to her in real life, with her hair dyed black instead of light brown in the photos. She's been with the shop at least a couple of years, with most of her photos probably being recycled from early on. So when I meet her, it was a bit different as when I went to pay, she also mentioned a no-pan option. I declined because I thought she meant she wouldn't wear panties for 2k but from what I've gathered, the offer was to not wear kami pants. I thought I made a mistake there, but turns out that it didn't matter. After the shower, she starts with using a towel to massage the bottom of my legs. After, she puts the towel on my back and sits on it, pushing down some. I don't think you could really call it a massage and I thought I struck out here as whenever I tried to talk to her, she would keep responses pretty short. It might've been like 15 minutes worth of that, and in hindsight, I feel like she was looking at her phone doing something else. Her responses did seem like she was distracted lol. Now when I flipped over, she actually talks to me a bit more as she's applying hot oil to my legs. She does start asking questions that are a bit flirty, like if I like Japanese women. Then at some point she starts massaging my crotch area more on top of the kami pants, without making eye contact with me. She slips her hand under and after a few touches, looks at me and offers a HJ for 10k and says there's also a possibility of FS, but it's expensive. 30k....I opted for just the HJ at 10k. No touching but she does say a lot of things to seduce me, like how there's a lot of things she could teach me. That was basically the main draw since her technique wasn't much to talk about, but she was definitely hot with big boobs and a really nice figure. She made me pinky promise that I would see her again, lol which is interesting because personality wise, she's mostly serious and you can tell she knows what she's worth as she's a hell of a seductress. Not the type to give you cute smiles. The session also ended a bit early since she didn't stop me to talk more after helping me clean up before I took a shower.

I didn't plan on seeing her again, but I changed my mind since it would be the day before I left Japan. I didn't go for FS but she gave me a price between 10k and 30k for touching, kissing, HJ finish on a certain place on her and I went with that. She was pretty into it, pulling me in while we were kissing and teasing me. The amount of time time also ended up being pretty close to what was scheduled. I guess she gives you more attention if she knows you're making it worth her time, so I could only imagine how satisfying FS would be with her. I didn't go with it that time because although she was good at seducing, I was skeptical if she would cut corners because of the early finish before. But she's the real deal, so I would definitely recommend her for those interested. Apparently she did release a DVD at some point but I didn't ask for her gravure name. I'll probably ask her if I get another chance to see her and buy it after some intimate FS lmao. She has a relatively deep voice for a Japanese woman and she said she's been active for roughly 4 years, so if I came across a clip of her talking, I could ID her for sure.

Moral of the story, you can run into models, race queens, gravure idols in men's esthe but be prepared to drop a few hundred to get at least an HJ on top of the session price. I'd say it's worth it, if you're just horny you could jerk off or get cheaper services to finish. But spending sexy time with a gravure idol....worth it for the memory alone.
 
I've been using several Japanese esthe shops over the 8 years I've been frequenting them in Tokyo. Usually pay around 25K~30K for the 120-minute option. Not sure which shop you went to, but most of the things that you mentioned (except for full) are usually included in my aforementioned price. On your next trip, if you are looking for places that you are constantly not being upsold, you can check my few reviews here or send me a PM for some shops I haven't reviewed yet. For example, at the start, a micro bikini costume option is usually an additional 5,000, which feels really nice with the skin-to-skin touch.

Also, duly noted that you were just sharing experiences and not writing a review or asking for advice.
 
I've been using several Japanese esthe shops over the 8 years I've been frequenting them in Tokyo. Usually pay around 25K~30K for the 120-minute option. Not sure which shop you went to, but most of the things that you mentioned (except for full) are usually included in my aforementioned price. On your next trip, if you are looking for places that you are constantly not being upsold, you can check my few reviews here or send me a PM for some shops I haven't reviewed yet. For example, at the start, a micro bikini costume option is usually an additional 5,000, which feels really nice with the skin-to-skin touch.

Also, duly noted that you were just sharing experiences and not writing a review or asking for advice.

This would be at a place that's licensed for fuzoku though, right? I was trying to avoid the drop in hotness that typically occurs when you go from soft to harder services, which is why I would never go for soaps or pink salons. I skimmed across your reviews and couldn't see much to that effect. I did come across Mrs. Dandy which has some tweets specifically mentioning foreigners and lists microbikini/topless, plus a special course option for BJ. Maybe worth a shot next time if I'm feeling curious: https://m-dandy.com/ginza_dandy/system/

The shop has a site and lol interestingly enough, the experience seems somewhat similar to this post but quite different: https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/whats-the-deal-with-esthe.27603/post-317876

I did end up paying roughly 20K+ to get in the door with a costume change and no mention, much less a pledge, about anything sexual occurring. They had multiple residential apartment rooms with the address being sent out the day of the appointment. However, extras are definitely available depending on the girl, potentially with the upcharge. I've tried deliheru before and there's just something about it being a little too scripted/transactional that doesn't really do it for me. Chemistry is always a roll of the dice, but I did feel like noticeable teasing during shower play or just in general is kind of neglected. And if you have to mention it to them, it's definitely a letdown lol. I guess getting charged extra with esthe is also transactional, but hell if that girl didn't make it hot lol asking me to make sure to keep it a secret from the shop. It's definitely a different scene and not for everyone, I typically don't get much out of the more popular P4P options.

Also I'm curious, probably to a fault about girls involved in the race queen and gravure scene. Perhaps it's a not so hidden secret that the girls with that sort of background working at esthe are definitely offering an upcharge in return for being able to say you did intimate stuff with them. Which totally works for me lol, I'm sure some of the ones with regular professions are more willing to give freebies.
 
This would be at a place that's licensed for fuzoku though, right? I was trying to avoid the drop in hotness that typically occurs when you go from soft to harder services, which is why I would never go for soaps or pink salons. I skimmed across your reviews and couldn't see much to that effect. I did come across Mrs. Dandy which has some tweets specifically mentioning foreigners and lists microbikini/topless, plus a special course option for BJ. Maybe worth a shot next time if I'm feeling curious: https://m-dandy.com/ginza_dandy/system/

The shop has a site and lol interestingly enough, the experience seems somewhat similar to this post but quite different: https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/whats-the-deal-with-esthe.27603/post-317876

I did end up paying roughly 20K+ to get in the door with a costume change and no mention, much less a pledge, about anything sexual occurring. They had multiple residential apartment rooms with the address being sent out the day of the appointment. However, extras are definitely available depending on the girl, potentially with the upcharge. I've tried deliheru before and there's just something about it being a little too scripted/transactional that doesn't really do it for me. Chemistry is always a roll of the dice, but I did feel like noticeable teasing during shower play or just in general is kind of neglected. And if you have to mention it to them, it's definitely a letdown lol. I guess getting charged extra with esthe is also transactional, but hell if that girl didn't make it hot lol asking me to make sure to keep it a secret from the shop. It's definitely a different scene and not for everyone, I typically don't get much out of the more popular P4P options.

Also I'm curious, probably to a fault about girls involved in the race queen and gravure scene. Perhaps it's a not so hidden secret that the girls with that sort of background working at esthe are definitely offering an upcharge in return for being able to say you did intimate stuff with them. Which totally works for me lol, I'm sure some of the ones with regular professions are more willing to give freebies.
sorry to be honest, I didn't really understand the whole explanation here. Also, the girls who I've seen in my men's esthe dwellings are all office workers during the day and for little extra expenses, work in men's esthe, at night or during their time off. I'm sure I misunderstood your statement about the up-charging. Being brown-skinned and having spent the majority of my upbringing in Japan, I follow the normal cultural rules, that it's impolite to talk directly or indirectly about any intimate dealing with a provider directly. But, as I said, I think I didn't understand your comment and it's drifted into a gray area where you mean "X" and I'm reading it as "Y", so I apologize for that.

In regards to being licensed for fuzoku. In Japan (and I can be wrong) but men's esthe and fuzuko are two completely different categories. I'm talking about actual men's esthe, which in tradition is just a very fancy erotic massage sometimes with skimpy costumes, where you get to converse and spend a wonderful time with a Japanese female who is often 25~35. They are not licensed to do anything other than that. Anything additional to that is YMMV and the relationship you develop with the provider. What I meant in my comment is that I've often received more from mens esthe places I've visited. I've never frequented a fuzoku joint because I like developing a working relationship.
 
sorry to be honest, I didn't really understand the whole explanation here. Also, the girls who I've seen in my men's esthe dwellings are all office workers during the day and for little extra expenses, work in men's esthe, at night or during their time off. I'm sure I misunderstood your statement about the up-charging. Being brown-skinned and having spent the majority of my upbringing in Japan, I follow the normal cultural rules, that it's impolite to talk directly or indirectly about any intimate dealing with a provider directly. But, as I said, I think I didn't understand your comment and it's drifted into a gray area where you mean "X" and I'm reading it as "Y", so I apologize for that.

In regards to being licensed for fuzoku. In Japan (and I can be wrong) but men's esthe and fuzuko are two completely different categories. I'm talking about actual men's esthe, which in tradition is just a very fancy erotic massage sometimes with skimpy costumes, where you get to converse and spend a wonderful time with a Japanese female who is often 25~35. They are not licensed to do anything other than that. Anything additional to that is YMMV and the relationship you develop with the provider. What I meant in my comment is that I've often received more from mens esthe places I've visited. I've never frequented a fuzoku joint because I like developing a working relationship.

Okay I think I'm catching on to getting hung up on "upcharging" for extra services. I didn't ask for any extra services. What I described was 1 girl offering HJ for free, 1 doing nothing (but some review online says she will offer options if asked), and 1 offering HJ/FS for more money after initiating crotch contact. The girls on the website have varying jobs listed, from esthetician to gravure to college student or traditional office worker.

The fuzoku thing is me reading your comment "most of the things that you mentioned (except for full) are usually included in my aforementioned price" - which would lead someone to believe it's not YMMV. But then you go on to say YMMV, which is basically what I described with the initial post. In the last comment I was comparing my response to the post that I linked. Summarized below
  • high price
  • apartment room style
  • messaged on the day of the appointment where the exact location would be
  • skimpy outfit
  • pledge to not disclose the location or what happens there
  • pledge to not do anything sexual
Except for the last two, those were all applicable to me and I guess what was confusing me was that people responding to the comment said that the guy probably went to an illegal shop. AKA they're not licensed for fuzoku, yet all the experiences you and others put are that YMMV and anything extra is to the discretion of the girl. Which is techinically illegal if they're not licensed. Maybe by "illegal shop" they mean that the store wink wink advertises sex which is a no-no, where as "legal" men's esthe shops make no reference to sex and what happens (for free or for more money) is completely up to the girl. I think this should clear things up.....maybe.
 
Lol she ended up giving me a snack as a "present" before I left and I was kind of surprised, not in a good way. I figured she was offloading some snacks some other customer gave her but it was the first session she was available for the day so probably not. Just kind of weird.
This is not appreciated by guys?
There are definitely girls that buy little food omiyage for every appointment they have that day.
 
This is not appreciated by guys?
There are definitely girls that buy little food omiyage for every appointment they have that day.
Everybody appreciates gifts 😳 it's just a nice gesture, doesn't matter what it is.

It's the first time I read that somebody thinks it's strange. Sounds more like he is the wierd one here 😅
 
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Everybody appreciates gifts 😳 it's just a nice gesture, doesn't matter what it is.

It's the first time I read that somebody thinks it's strange. Sounds more like he is the wierd one here 😅
I can't say that the actual snack tasted that good lol which is probably why I wasn't thrilled. I didn't register what it was until after I left since she gave me it as I was heading out the door. I forget what it's called but it was chips made out of this starchy plant. If it tasted good, I wouldn't have given it much of a second thought lol but it's whatever, maybe she thought I'd like to try a distinctly Japanese snack or something.
 
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