Anyone Been Caught Cheating Or Mongering?

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Have any TAG guys ever been caught out by a wife or GF for cheating or mongering? Maybe wifey found your love hotel point card. Lol.

Oh! I have never been caught personally.

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MossBoss
 
Have any TAG guys ever been caught out by a wife or GF for cheating or mongering? Maybe wifey found your love hotel point card. Lol.

Oh! I have never been caught personally.

Regards,

MossBoss
I was just thinking about making some pointcards, haha!

You can get nice discounts or accessories but it looks a bit weird maybe if you go into a hotel with someone new and you pull out your members card..
 
I had to play it off like I was hanging out with my friends at the bar then she came over literally 5 minutes apart from other leaving.
 
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I've had a girlfriend come directly to my house when another girl was over. She wanted to spend the night, I wasn't picking up so she thought it was a good idea to come over. The girl in my bed came to the door even though I told her to stay in the bedroom so their eyes met. Was a bit of a shitstorm
 
I've had a girlfriend come directly to my house when another girl was over. She wanted to spend the night, I wasn't picking up so she thought it was a good idea to come over. The girl in my bed came to the door even though I told her to stay in the bedroom so their eyes met. Was a bit of a shitstorm
That's when you try and suggest a threesome
 
I've had a girlfriend come directly to my house when another girl was over. She wanted to spend the night, I wasn't picking up so she thought it was a good idea to come over. The girl in my bed came to the door even though I told her to stay in the bedroom so their eyes met. Was a bit of a shitstorm
I've been caught, but luckily it's been outside or at clubs, and not at my place. Before becoming a swinger, I had some uncomfortable experiences with being caught cheating in the traditional sense. As a swinger, those happens less. It's a different expectation, frame, and mindset.

To have two girlfriends that don't know about each other meet at the door could get very problematic. The biggest problem is if you have been lying to them or they go into a jealous rage, in the house or even on the door outside.

What did you do?
 
Got my girlfriend to leave. The regular I didn't really care what she thought. My girlfriend I had some explaining to do
If I have a girlfriend/sex-friend that digs through my stuff/phone, pops up unexpectedly, too jealous acting, too mentally unstable acting... I cut her off as soon as possible. Tends to cut down on problems overall.

I learned that lesson when younger. It may seem exciting to play with crazy or drama filled women, but it inevitably catches up with the guy, and often at the wrong time or the most unwanted ways. I rather avoid such drama.
 
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Don't know how you managed to get the girlfriend to leave. Women usually want answers right then and there to events like this.
That's what happened to me when I got busted. Worse was when the women started talking to each other and comparing notes.

But it depends. Like some women don't give a fuck or they suspected the guy was a playboy, so wasn't so surprised. In a traditional relationship (non-swinger or non-open relationship), I usually just had to choose one or the other. Interestingly, I never lost both girlfriends. Just broke up with one, and moved on with the other.

As mentioned, luckily I was busted outside and in club/bar situations in those days. Club security or the situation of being outside helped limit the emotions a bit. As a few girls fought over me or got into loud emotional screaming matches. As I got older and more experienced, it became easier to handle such situations. Also older women, 30 plus, tend to overreact or go berserk less. But I'm talking boyfriend and girlfriend, not husband and wife situations. Husband and wife, in the house, can get deadly. Especially in gun crazy America.
 
The mrs. found me out. She got really pissed. I'm not allowed to have girlfriends anymore. I mostly stick to P4P now because it's easier to cover my tracks and requires less of an investment in time. She's Japanese, she knew I was stepping out long before she caught me, but she was OK so long as she never found out. Japanese wives have an amazing, and neurotic, ability to juggle competing realities in their heads. The belief that all husbands cheat; the belief that, so long as they can't see it, their husband does not.
 
Agreed /\ and you hit the bulls-eye. You're lucky the wife is Japanese. I once had a Japanese long-term gf tell me it was ok to have another girl while having her (although this came about on our breakup).
 
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Don't know how you managed to get the girlfriend to leave. Women usually want answers right then and there to events like this.

I have a pretty strong frame in these situations.. As far as I'm concerned she's way out of line by stopping at my house unannounced and therefore has no right staying
 
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Well, It certainly must be different between Japanese girls and you being in Japan vs you and her being in your own country and living separately.
 
Well, It certainly must be different between Japanese girls and you being in Japan vs you and her being in your own country and living separately.
When I was back home and in dealing with Western women, I don't tolerate women coming to the apartment unannounced, trying to sneakily access my phone, or pretending they are police detectives or jail wardens. I cut them off. Don't deal with women like that, regardless of race or nationality.
 
The more time passes in my life I wonder, has anyone confessed to cheating or mongering? I guess that for escorts the equivalent would be confessing their work to someone else. Not the same thing in many ways, just the closest equivalent.

It might sound crazy, but I feel that if you really care for someone, let say you are considering going steady — specially, picture what it would take for one of us, both men and women in this forum, to want to go steady! —, or heck you just fell in love with someone, at some point you eventually feel that i) you don’t want to lie to them, and ii) they should accept you for what you are.

On the other hand, I feel like some of us have played wrong our hand in life and it might be too late to go back, there is simply no way of recovering such level of honesty when other people were dealt or played a much better hand in life (pick whatever you want to believe, the result is the same). You might want to be honest, but at some point you realize there is a big chance that your partner won’t be able to reciprocate your honesty with an equivalent secret if their biggest transgressions in life were much smaller than yours. Naturally you become afraid of being rejected. Or accepted, but not being on the same equal ground as your partner anymore.

I don’t think partners are entitled to know all about your past, specially if they are not sharing theirs with you or if they have been so fortunate as to go through life without having to keep secrets. Confidence is more something that you give, rather than demand. I would like to hear what escorts thing about their situation, it doesn’t sound easy at all.

As a monger I feel like the more I care about someone I just cannot lie about mongering in the past. It’s not a fair game to my partner, specially if they are younger than me or I suspect they have had rather uneventful romantic lives so far. Similar to acknowledging you are a scorpion in that Aesop fable. Also, I feel that it was an experience that profoundly affected how I relate to women, and why I react like a cat caught by surprise by a cucumber over seemingly inoffensive things, like the casual use of the word ‘whore’ in conversation.

I notice that I slip a lot. When something is hard to confess, you slip to get caught. I rarely lie about losing my virginity very late in life and leave the rest up to being figured out. I also rarely hide knowing a lot about the P4P scene in Japan. But that’s mostly to male friends, so far I haven’t done that with potential female partners. I do however tell women almost from the very beginning that my romantic experiences have been complicated. The latest opportunities I had of starting a relationship I was still mongering and I had to shut the whole thing down before they went too far.
 
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The more time passes in my life I wonder, has anyone confessed to cheating or mongering? I guess that for escorts the equivalent would be confessing their work to someone else. Not the same thing in many ways, just the closest equivalent.

It might sound crazy, but I feel that if you really care for someone, let say you are considering going steady — specially, picture what it would take for one of us, both men and women in this forum, to want to go steady! —, or heck you just fell in love with someone, at some point you eventually feel that i) you don’t want to lie to them, and ii) they should accept you for what you are.

On the other hand, I feel like some of us have played wrong our hand in life and it might be too late to go back, there is simply no way of recovering such level of honesty when other people were dealt or played a much better hand in life (pick whatever you want to believe, the result is the same). You might want to be honest, but at some point you realize there is a big chance that your partner won’t be able to reciprocate your honesty with an equivalent secret if their biggest transgressions in life were much smaller than yours. Naturally you become afraid of being rejected. Or accepted, but not being on the same equal ground as your partner anymore.

I don’t think partners are entitled to know all about your past, specially if they are not sharing theirs with you or if they have been so fortunate as to go through life without having to keep secrets. Confidence is more something that you give, rather than demand. I would like to hear what escorts thing about their situation, it doesn’t sound easy at all.

As a monger I feel like the more I care about someone I just cannot lie about mongering in the past. It’s not a fair game to my partner, specially if they are younger than me or I suspect they have had rather uneventful romantic lives so far. Similar to acknowledging you are a scorpion in that Aesop fable. Also, I feel that it was an experience that profoundly affected how I relate to women, and why I react like a cat caught by surprise by a cucumber over seemingly inoffensive things, like the casual use of the word ‘whore’ in conversation.

I notice that I slip a lot. When something is hard to confess, you slip to get caught. I rarely lie about losing my virginity very late in life and leave the rest up to being figured out. I also rarely hide knowing a lot about the P4P scene in Japan. But that’s mostly to male friends, so far I haven’t done that with potential female partners. I do however tell women almost from the very beginning that my romantic experiences have been complicated. The latest opportunities I had of starting a relationship I was still mongering and I had to shut the whole thing down before they went too far.
I have usually outed myself in an early stage to sex friends and love interests but i like people in the night life industry, not your regular salary men.

I didn't dare to out myself to friends at first because it felt like a big deal but then someone exposed me and people found out...
But p4p is very common in Japan so i didn't get judged as much as i thought i'd be and some other girls i know told me they are also in the scene after finding out about me.

I don't like to hide it too much because having big secrets gives people the power to blackmail you.
But i usually don't tell it to people who are not in the same world.
 
The more time passes in my life I wonder, has anyone confessed to cheating or mongering?

I have, to my girlfriend. At the beginning of the relationship she said if I ever cheated to just not say and if she doesn't find out it's fine. But farther into the relationship she kept asking me over and over and I got the sense her opinion changed and I didn't want to hide anything any more so I told her. It caused a bunch of issues but at least I was honest.
 
I have, to my girlfriend. At the beginning of the relationship she said if I ever cheated to just not say and if she doesn't find out it's fine. But farther into the relationship she kept asking me over and over and I got the sense her opinion changed and I didn't want to hide anything any more so I told her. It caused a bunch of issues but at least I was honest.

I guess the translation is if it were happen once I better don't want to know it. I doubt she meant to give you a blanko on a daily basis :p
Anyways, don't tell me probably never means don't tell me, but rather to make sure that she never even smells anything. Once there are suspicions things change I think.
 
I have usually outed myself in an early stage to sex friends and love interests but i like people in the night life industry, not your regular salary men.

Thanks for the very frank answer.(y) I even asked a moderator to delete my message because I thought it wouldn’t have replies.

I wonder, what do you think would happen one day as you start moving away from the night life industry and into other interests, have you thought about that? I don’t mean you have to get out of the night industry, stay for as much as you want. I mean that the world is so much bigger than a dichotomy between night life industry and boring salaryman life; there is a lot of interesting people out there that aren’t into neither of those two categories and who simply don’t have experience with the night life industry, and regretfully in our society the stigma for sex work is still very high even among nice and cool people. I would say the stigma is even higher than against homosexuals or transsexuals, sure there are a lot of homophobic people, but how many of them are cool people?

As for mongers, I'm sorry for playing the Solong card this time, but I feel that this situation is also frequently overlooked for men. Not saying is remotely worse for male mongers than for female escorts, you have it tougher there is no discussion, just saying the male situation is more often ignored. Even in “cool countries” that have their act together in welfare and social security like the nordic countries, what is deemed progressive in regard to sex work is to “aid” the supply/escorts, and punish demand/mongers. In the end it hurts both, but the spirit of the law is that only mongers are the ones on the wrong.

My personal bias is also that escorts usually have more interesting experiences than mongers. Mongers play it safer. I also feel that their attitudes are somewhat different, escorts respect more their customers than customers respect them. It’s my general impression, with exceptions off course. By the way, a lot of mongers are also boring salarymen.

I didn't dare to out myself to friends at first because it felt like a big deal but then someone exposed me and people found out...

That person might have done you a favor without realizing, but darn he/she was a shitty tiny pathetic twat. As those Dhammapada verses say, I hope it never find happiness.


He who seeks happiness
By hurting others who seek happiness
Will never find happiness.
Not in the sky,
Nor in the depths of the sea,
Nor in the deepest mountains,
Can you hide from your misdeeds.

I have, to my girlfriend. At the beginning of the relationship she said if I ever cheated to just not say and if she doesn't find out it's fine. But farther into the relationship she kept asking me over and over and I got the sense her opinion changed and I didn't want to hide anything any more so I told her. It caused a bunch of issues but at least I was honest.

Thanks also for your frank answer. What happened after you told her, if I may ask? Sounds like you eventually broke up, but maybe not immediately?
 
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