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Service and/or Provider's Name:
Arisa Satin Doll Yoshiwara

Date of Encounter:
16 August 2017

Contact Method:
Walk in

Appointment Length & Costs:
120 minutes 77000 YEN

Type/Location:
Soapland

Language Notes:
English only

Details of the Encounter:
It was my last day in Tokyo. I had a 8:20 PM flight in the evening and after I checked out from my hotel I still had some time to kill. I looked at the roster of Satin Doll and saw that Karen was on. The day before I had an incredible time with her so I decided to go back, hoping she will be available again.

I went to the place a little bit after 1PM.
Usual greeting, escorted to waiting room, drink order bla, bla, bla
I was shown 4 girls none of them were Karen. I asked if she's available maybe later. I was told she's "sold out".
I wanted to choose the hotest looking girl but I was told she only accepted Japanese men.
So I went with the second prettiest. Arisa.

She greeted me on the 3. floor. She was pretty but not as much in real life like on the photos. She is a very young looking girl. Short with shoulder length black hair. She was wearing pretty dress with flowers.
After we went inside the room she used her phones translator to ask me some questions. I could tell she was not the only one feeling warm inside because her face was perspiring especially around her nose.
She turned the AC up more. We talked for a little and after all of suddenly she started smothering me with her tongue and DFK.
It felt very fake because there was not much feelings in it. Lots of tongue and don't get me wrong she is a good kisser but and is very giving but everything started so fast. It's like I have a job to which is kiss you, so just shut up and kiss.
She had a strange taste in her mouth and her breath had an unpleasant smell. I'm very sensitive to smell so this did bother me and made kissing less enjoyable.
After we both undress and she gave me a BBJ, she was good at it, so good that I did not even notice she put a condom on while blowing me. I was hard so she got on the bed and bent over.
This is when I saw something that for me was a major turn off.
She had something around her ass hole. Something small and white. Could not tell if it's paper or some tissue or something from her underwear. Anyway when I saw that I was like OMG butt cheese.
I started to fuck her from behind and I tried to not let the things that bother me get to me but still was hard to enjoy. We did missionary but when I lean closer to her again felt the breath , I also went down on her but her pussy had a strange smell, something I couldn't work around. So I switched back to doggy and after some concentration I finally popped. Then she took of the condom and she sucked my penis clean. I was surprised to get this.
After she told me to have shower and then while I was waiting in the tub she got the mat ready. She gave me toothbrush too but she did not brush her teeth.
By the way I brushed my teeth before going there, I always do. I try to be as clean as I can be out of respect to the girls.
Then came mat play. I'm not that into mat play but her technique was amazing. I have never had this kind of mat play before. She did the usual sliding up and down on my body but she also licked with her tongue every inch of my body. She sucked every toe on my feet. She licked me everywhere even rimming. It was good. Then I turned over and after condom pulled on she hoped on and reverse cowgirl.
Also some 69 but again the smell just got me. I started to loose my hard on. I told that I would like to was of the nuru gel so she clean me and herself then we went back to the bed. More kissing followed but after this I just couldn't get back the mood.
These small things just bothered me.
The breath, the mouth taste, the pussy odour, the butt cheese.
I apologise to her and told her that I'm tired and that let's just leave it and rest.
So we just laying there talking for the remaining 20 minutes I had.
She told me she is 32 years old. She will be 33 in a couple of weeks.
I completed her on how lucky she is to look still so young. Honestly she does not look like she's 32. Easily can subtract 10 years. She had very nice white skin, no visible wrinkles on her face. She was not wearing heavy makeup either. She is short and a bit thick body , medium size breasts, not very firm , completely shaved pussy.
She is a newbie. She has been working at Satin Doll for 3 weeks. She told me that all Yoshiwara girls age is fake on the internet.
She said there is a girl at SD who has been working there for more than 20 years. She is a coach there now. She said she is very scary. I could tell she's telling the truth, her eyes were turgid with fear.
I was surprised how she opened up to me and told me so many things.
I asked what she will do on her birthday she told me she will be working again.
Made me feel sad and I felt really sorry for her. She's a very nice person and she's there to please you and do everything you want. She tries hard. I just didn't feel it.
We had shower again and then got dressed said goodbye and left.
I was flagged a cab by the staff and went back to Ueno station.

Would love to hear other opinions about, does stuff like strange smell, breath, pussy odour etc... bother you if you notice it? What do you do? I did not say anything to her, did not want to be rude and hurt her feelings.

Anyway her she is

http://www.s-doll.com/sp/profile.html?id=400

Final Thoughts:
Recommended, Will not Repeat.

Closing Comments:
I would recommend her. She is very giving. If the stuff I experienced and that she's a newbie does not bother you. Maybe I'm just too fussy.
Honestly after I was on my way to Narita airport on the train I looked at her profile picture and diary pictures again. I was thinking:
damn that girl looks hot, can't believe I was having sex with her an hour ago. On her pictures she is way sexier than in real life.
 
Thanks for the review.
Paying 77k should guarantee no 'butt cheese' or bad breath. You are not being too fusy at all.
 
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I've never heard the term "butt cheese" before. I'm still busting up laughing. :ROFLMAO:

She's gorgeous. Too bad about the bad breath, stinky pussy and, of course, the butt cheese. For me, any one of those things would be enough to potentially kill a boner. Running into all three at once would be most unfortunate.
 
I understand the concept of going into sex straight because its more GFE but the butt and breath thing is exactly why its generally better to shower and brush teeth together first.

I think for that price (actually for ANY price) the girl should always be clean before meeting the customer. She's there the whole time and can shower and brush her teeth anytime.
 
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I think for that price (actually for ANY price) the girl should always be clean before meeting the customer. She's there the whole time and can shower and brush her teeth anytime.
Thats not as easy as one might think.
Its very hard to notice from yourself if you are clean or not. She didn't sound exactly unwashed, plus its a soapland so i would bet something that she did have a bath before seeing him.

-bad breath doesn't just go away by brushing teeth. Its often caused by either food or bad teethcare, and those smells linger right through toothpaste. I do my very best to not eat smelly food before meeting a client and if we have a dinner date and my food contains something smelly i'll ask if he's ok with it and if he's eating the same thing so it evens out.
Bad teeth hygiene is the curse of Japan honestly. People dont care about it while they SHOULD. I also think that girls in a high end shop should keep teeth in good condition but it seems not a priority to Japanese clients so girls with bad teeth will still get hired and crooked teeth = harder to clean inbetween them = bad smell.

-pussy smell is pretty hard to avoid. First of all it will always smell of something and what some guys like may be already too strong for others. Second, you basically cant clean it with soap because if anything, soap will infect it and make it smell worse.
If its really a bad smell she probably had candida, pretty easy to catch in an environment like that.
There is little that one can do to optimalize pussy hygiene. Its a "self cleaning oven".

-butt cheese. Now, lets say that it was just some toilet paper that got stuck. Its pretty normal that she'd go to the toilet before having a two hours client. Using the great Japanese bidet function before seeing a client is definitely the best thing to do, but its kind of annoying to dry it, even if i use bidet i may use toilet paper to dry. And that stuff gets stuck anywhere. This is why i suggested the shower part. I'm sure she had showered recently, but you cant expect them to let the customer wait while the girl takes a shower before they meet. Nobody likes to be kept waiting.
If it wasn't toilet paper i'd rather not know what it was...

I'd think it would be a good idea to have a tencho briefly inspect the girl's breath and body, although that might be weird...

Hygiene is a very delicate thing and it can vary a lot from day to day. Sometimes a little slip up happens and getting in the shower together is the best way to get through it. But the things like pussy smell and bad breath may be long term problems.
Anyway, this is a difficult matter. I have met a lot of people who brag about their hygiene routine who dont smell on point to me. I hope OP told the staff about his hygiene issues so the girl can try to work on it.

As for OP, i dont think everyone would be turned off by this, even if they say it here, if they would have been in this situation maybe they wouldn't even have noticed. But i guess if there is some lack of attraction and chemistry, that such things stand out more and easily become turn offs.
I think it was fair that you'd still recommend her because she is obviously a hard worker, but you are totally right in your own feelings of being turned off of course. The things that turn people on or off are very delicate and its a small bridge to walk and just nobody is perfect, not at any price point. Its a shame it went like this, but at least on the visit before that you had a total blast. Too bad she wasn't available. Was "sold out" how they said it to you in english? That is a pretty stupid way of saying it really.
 
Thats not as easy as one might think.
Its very hard to notice from yourself if you are clean or not. She didn't sound exactly unwashed, plus its a soapland so i would bet something that she did have a bath before seeing him.

-bad breath doesn't just go away by brushing teeth. Its often caused by either food or bad teethcare, and those smells linger right through toothpaste. I do my very best to not eat smelly food before meeting a client and if we have a dinner date and my food contains something smelly i'll ask if he's ok with it and if he's eating the same thing so it evens out.
Bad teeth hygiene is the curse of Japan honestly. People dont care about it while they SHOULD. I also think that girls in a high end shop should keep teeth in good condition but it seems not a priority to Japanese clients so girls with bad teeth will still get hired and crooked teeth = harder to clean inbetween them = bad smell.

-pussy smell is pretty hard to avoid. First of all it will always smell of something and what some guys like may be already too strong for others. Second, you basically cant clean it with soap because if anything, soap will infect it and make it smell worse.
If its really a bad smell she probably had candida, pretty easy to catch in an environment like that.
There is little that one can do to optimalize pussy hygiene. Its a "self cleaning oven".

-butt cheese. Now, lets say that it was just some toilet paper that got stuck. Its pretty normal that she'd go to the toilet before having a two hours client. Using the great Japanese bidet function before seeing a client is definitely the best thing to do, but its kind of annoying to dry it, even if i use bidet i may use toilet paper to dry. And that stuff gets stuck anywhere. This is why i suggested the shower part. I'm sure she had showered recently, but you cant expect them to let the customer wait while the girl takes a shower before they meet. Nobody likes to be kept waiting.
If it wasn't toilet paper i'd rather not know what it was...

I'd think it would be a good idea to have a tencho briefly inspect the girl's breath and body, although that might be weird...

Hygiene is a very delicate thing and it can vary a lot from day to day. Sometimes a little slip up happens and getting in the shower together is the best way to get through it. But the things like pussy smell and bad breath may be long term problems.
Anyway, this is a difficult matter. I have met a lot of people who brag about their hygiene routine who dont smell on point to me. I hope OP told the staff about his hygiene issues so the girl can try to work on it.

As for OP, i dont think everyone would be turned off by this, even if they say it here, if they would have been in this situation maybe they wouldn't even have noticed. But i guess if there is some lack of attraction and chemistry, that such things stand out more and easily become turn offs.
I think it was fair that you'd still recommend her because she is obviously a hard worker, but you are totally right in your own feelings of being turned off of course. The things that turn people on or off are very delicate and its a small bridge to walk and just nobody is perfect, not at any price point. Its a shame it went like this, but at least on the visit before that you had a total blast. Too bad she wasn't available. Was "sold out" how they said it to you in english? That is a pretty stupid way of saying it really.

I agree with you that I did not have a lot of chemistry with her, also I was soo stoked on having Karen again, that I felt very disappointment when I was told she's taken. They told me in that exact way that she's not available : "she's sold out"
I know that if I would have been blown away by Arisa's looks and personality the things that bothered me, probably would have turned me off less.
For example I was with a this girl in Sapporo an she had tobacco taste in her mouth and did not bother me, we also clicked.
Also the day I was with Karen I could taste some mild food related taste in her mouth, but was not so strong so I was fine with it.
But with Arisa it was more with the breath than with her taste. Her breath was bad. Come to think of it her teeth did not look very white.
But she told me she never smoked or drinks alcohol because she's allergic to it.
After we finished the staff did not ask me about her, like the day before with Karen.
Even if they did, I would not have said bad things about her, she seemed so terrified of the coach lady, I did not want to do anything to get her into trouble.
By the way this was the second time in Tokyo I had experience like this, regarding bad smell.
Week before I went to Darling Harbour and the girl there had very bad armpit smell.
Even after we got out of the tub I could smell this sour onion smell on her.
 
I agree with you that I did not have a lot of chemistry with her, also I was soo stoked on having Karen again, that I felt very disappointment when I was told she's taken. They told me in that exact way that she's not available : "she's sold out"
I know that if I would have been blown away by Arisa's looks and personality the things that bothered me, probably would have turned me off less.
For example I was with a this girl in Sapporo an she had tobacco taste in her mouth and did not bother me, we also clicked.
Also the day I was with Karen I could taste some mild food related taste in her mouth, but was not so strong so I was fine with it.
But with Arisa it was more with the breath than with her taste. Her breath was bad. Come to think of it her teeth did not look very white.
But she told me she never smoked or drinks alcohol because she's allergic to it.
After we finished the staff did not ask me about her, like the day before with Karen.
Even if they did, I would not have said bad things about her, she seemed so terrified of the coach lady, I did not want to do anything to get her into trouble.
By the way this was the second time in Tokyo I had experience like this, regarding bad smell.
Week before I went to Darling Harbour and the girl there had very bad armpit smell.
Even after we got out of the tub I could smell this sour onion smell on her.
It must be either her diet or her teeth hygiene. Probably teeth since they don't care for braces in Japan, and some people go to dentists a lot but some never go. The weirdest thing is that almost all detists i have met have crooked or yellow teeth and some are smokers.
 
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Croocked teeth are not bad and doesn't automatically mean bad hygiene. Unless the teeth cause problems with jaw alignment or chewing, there is no medical reason to straighten them. This straight tooth fetish is only strong in america. I've seen plenty of japanese girls with croocked teeth but they where clean and white regardless. On the other hand, I've also seen lots of people with straight teeth that where yellow or rotten. So tooth alignment has little to do with hygiene...
 
Is the "120 minutes 77000 YEN" only choice available?
It seems like it, based on the reviews submitted recently...

I have been there three times so far and the only option was the 77000 YEN session.
As soon as you enter the staff will show you the price on their smartphones and ask you if it's ok. If your time is up you can extend an additional hour for 47000 YEN.
 
This place is great and very foreigner friendly. I'm sorry about OP's mixed experience -- but even still I think that this is a great place for foreign gents starting out in Japan, with the right budget. I don't think there are many other high end places like this that are open to us.

At this point, I am more partial to Charmant which costs half as much and has lovely ladies, but they don't do Mat Play and are much less polished than Satin Doll.
 
She said there is a girl at SD who has been working there for more than 20 years. She is a coach there now. She said she is very scary. I could tell she's telling the truth, her eyes were turgid with fear.
Do I get a discount for a session with the girl getting coached or do I have to pay extra?
 
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Do I get a discount for a session with the girl getting coached or do I have to pay extra?

Sorry but I don't exactly understand the question. All newbies get coached when they start working there. That's their training.
They must complete this before seeing the customers.
I remember Arisa told me that it's 5 hours long and have to do it a couple of times. The coaching is done by a 20 year veteran provider. She's apparently extremely strict and feared by all the other girls. So most probably these girls working here will do anything, and not make mistakes, and provide a high level of standard to avoid seeing her again. Once a girl finishes her training she is qualified as the rest, and costs the same. I mean if she does not tell me she's a newbie with only 3 weeks of experience I would have never noticed.
She had very good skills.
I have been at this place 3 times so far and have never been offered any discount or deal. In my experience the price is non negotiable.
 
I think he meant if he get's a discount if she completes her training on him :D They probably practice on the tencho
 
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I think he meant if he get's a discount if she completes her training on him :D They probably practice on the tencho

I don't know who they practice on ,or if they practice on someone at all. Maybe it's just with the coach. If they do practice on the tencho, it must be a good job to have in Japan. Think about all the benefits ;-)
Would be good if foreigners could work in soaplands.
 
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I don't know who they practice on ,or if they practice on someone at all. Maybe it's just with the coach. If they do practice on the tencho, it must be a good job to have in Japan. Think about all the benefits ;-)
Would be good if foreigners could work in soaplands.
I would think they practice it on the coach lady.
I believe @Sudsy has worked in a soapland. Also there was a black tout working for kinpeibai. So foreign men can work for soaplands.
If only i could work for a place like Satin Doll.. that would be my ultimate goal. Appearantly there are soaplands that hire foreign women (Thai, Chinese, some hafu), but no high class ones as far as i have heard.
 
There's a lot of JAV based around a young new soapland girl getting trained up by a MILF sempai. In that situation, its a customer that gets to take the girl(s) for a test ride.

In reality I would assume they practice on the tencho.

At mid and low class soaps, i guess they dont really practice at all.
 
I would think they practice it on the coach lady.
I believe @Sudsy has worked in a soapland. Also there was a black tout working for kinpeibai. So foreign men can work for soaplands.
If only i could work for a place like Satin Doll.. that would be my ultimate goal. Appearantly there are soaplands that hire foreign women (Thai, Chinese, some hafu), but no high class ones as far as i have heard.

Alice come to Australia, and you can get a job in Sydney in a high end place definitely.
The pay is unbelievable. Girls make top $$$.
Also this kind of work here in Australia is legal and if you get a job at an establishment they could sponsor you and you could get visa to stay here.
 
Alice come to Australia, and you can get a job in Sydney in a high end place definitely.
The pay is unbelievable. Girls make top $$$.
Also this kind of work here in Australia is legal and if you get a job at an establishment they could sponsor you and you could get visa to stay here.
I'm sorry, but i LOVE living in Japan.
 
Alice come to Australia, and you can get a job in Sydney in a high end place definitely.
The pay is unbelievable. Girls make top $$$.
Also this kind of work here in Australia is legal and if you get a job at an establishment they could sponsor you and you could get visa to stay here.
I'm sorry, but i LOVE living in Japan.
Also i should clarify, what intrigues me about soaplands like this one is not just the high price.

Its the tradition, soaplands following up the old time yoshiwara brothels.. and the level of omotenashi, really going the extra mile for the clients (except the NS thing, that goes too far imo). Plus soapland is so unique with the whole slip and slide experience. I'd love to learn that, even if the teacher is a scary woman!