Best Response Tinder Girl Requesting Sugar Daddy

[split]

I have been talking to a tinder girl who came up front immediately after a few exchanges that she is looking for a sugar daddy, asking me "are you the one?" As I understand, this requires a hefty monthly sum I'm not willing to part with since my needs are only 1 to 3 nights each month, being a good dinner and LH. But I'm not sure if they require more monetary compensation than that. I'm willing to throw in some unique experiences at places I know that might be fun for an average girl, but this girl is 29.

So my question is how do you respond to such an offer without offending or getting the cold shoulder from the girl? The most I'm willing to spend is 20,000 for a few hours of eating, drinking, and fun in and out of the bedroom.

Sorry for the seemingly insignificant question but I've never seen this specifically answered here and I want to respond appropriately without seeming cheap or ambiguous.

 

[just4fun]

Ww???

 

[NormalGuy]

From my very limited look into SD, I think you are not going to get anywhere with that low kind of offer. But, as everyone is different it doesn't hurt to try.

What you are offering, she could make easily in a Date Cafe, so I'm not sure why this would qualify for a Sugar Daddy type relationship, as that is normally one to help the girl pay for things that she can't get elsewhere and giver her a sort of guaranteed income. For example, apart from the "negotiable" category on SA, girls there start out with an expectation of around $1000 per month, so if you think that maybe you can deliver somewhere around 5 dates per month then it may be worth trying. For 1-3 dates per month, she's going to need a lot of Sugar Daddies, but maybe she's just masking the fact she wants paying per encounter with a SD type suggestion.

Just pay her per encounter, but even then I think you are wanting it absolutely rock bottom prices (20k will normally get you an hour - 90 minutes). Even though you are paying for everything in a meal, drink, it's still the girls time she could be earning that you are using.

 

[SpookySmoothie]

Most SD's are paying around $500 a date at the low end with 2-3 dates a month it's really only a lifestyle for somebody who doesn't have to worry much about money. These girls are looking for financial support in return for making themselves available to you it's not necessarily like having a regular escort which is probably going to be a lot cheaper for you.

 

[Wwanderer]

Ww???

@split - Your budget would definitely put you in the downscale end of the sugar market, but as @NormalGuy said, it won't hurt to check to see if she is interested.

Your chances will be improved if you can promise her a minimum number of dates per month (two at least, more would be better) and emphasize that your dates will include nice meals plus occasional "unique experiences...that might be fun" along with any intimate time...in other words that they would have the "look and feel" of conventional dates. Many/most SBs care a lot about those aspects and are not merely trying to make as much as possible per hour of "work".

Btw, lots of escorts also do sugar dating at rates per hour *much* below their escorting fees...for various reasons, psychological and financial.

Also, you need not take the financial "expectations" listed on SB profiles on the SA site literally...unless the SB says somewhere in the text of her profile that you should/must. Many, probably most, are actually "negotiable", no matter what they happened to pick from the SA pull-down menu when they set up their profile.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - There is no need to commit to any specific monthly allowance or number of dates per month before even meeting an SB. It is totally standard to meet AT LEAST once on a per-meeting basis so that you can both evaluate your "chemistry" (saying that word often causes @User#16452 to appear!) and sugar compatibility. If she is willing to see you once for a getting-to-know-you sugar date for ¥20,000 (not too likely imo), then why not give it a try. You'd then be in a much better position to pursue a sugar arrangement with her or not.

-Ww

 

[FastMike]

So my question is how do you respond to such an offer without offending or getting the cold shoulder from the girl? The most I'm willing to spend is 20,000 for a few hours of eating, drinking, and fun in and out of the bedroom.

I would first chat and see what she means by SugarDaddy - actual cash? Trips? I have heard a girl use it and simply mean the guy pays for all the drinks and food (guess going dutch on dates happens). If she means cash, then just flat out say what you are willing to pay and how often you want her. In my experience, consistency is important to these girls. If you want her once every two week or once a week, say that. If she is offended by your offer of 20K, it's not like she was going to keep seeing you for 0K so you have lost nothing. Just phrase your offer in a nice way, saying this is what you are comfortable with. She will accept or counter-offer (almost always the case) or stop contacting you at all.

 

[Solong]

I have been talking to a tinder girl who came up front immediately after a few exchanges that she is looking for a sugar daddy, asking me "are you the one?" As I understand, this requires a hefty monthly sum I'm not willing to part with since my needs are only 1 to 3 nights each month, being a good dinner and LH. But I'm not sure if they require more monetary compensation than that. I'm willing to throw in some unique experiences at places I know that might be fun for an average girl, but this girl is 29.

So my question is how do you respond to such an offer without offending or getting the cold shoulder from the girl? The most I'm willing to spend is 20,000 for a few hours of eating, drinking, and fun in and out of the bedroom.

Sorry for the seemingly insignificant question but I've never seen this specifically answered here and I want to respond appropriately without seeming cheap or ambiguous.

I would be very wary that such a woman is a scammer or con-artist. Tinder isn't for prostitution, nor would her profile say she wants sex for money, because it would be eventually reported and deleted.

So basically such a woman is trapping and conning men. Then abusing their interest in her to ask for money. And if she has to use Tinder or any dating website in that way, it's likely because she can't compete on real sugar-baby sites like seekingarrangements or is a straight dude and con-artist. Like some of the famous Russian or Nigerian scammers, looking for victims, and will ask you to 1st deposit money into a bank account before meeting.

If a real woman, I still wouldn't expect much, other than a criminal or con-artist, that's going to take/steal/con as much money as she can. If she's asking you for money on Tinder, she's probably asking DOZENS and maybe more guys for money too. Do not expect any loyalty to you from a woman selling herself for money, especially if you are a lower bidder, and expect her to disappear if she gets a higher offer.

Also, at 20,000 yen, you can go find a woman at a Deai/Date cafe. And negotiate for 90 minutes to 2 hours.
http://www.deai-cafe.net/tokyo/

And at the Deai Cafe, can see exactly what she looks like and talk to her directly, so less worries about being scammed and tricked. Tinder would be for going the NP4P route and forming normal relationships.

With all that typed, it might not hurt for you to actually meet the woman 1st, if you can and you don't pay any money to meet. Maybe clarify what she means and her situation, and that she's even a real woman and not online cat-fish.

 

[split]

I just love the obvious ones you meet on wechat, showing their body in a bikini and address you by name with the question "what are you looking for?" So I responded "I'm looking for the opportunity to meet you so that we could take a walk on the beach, watch the sunset, do some stuff, and get to know you better." (As if I'm dumb to the entire SD thing).