Olive21 all the way if you're a couple.Very curious about how you guys feel about the pros and cons of both of these establishments.
To give a little context, we're a couple with an age gap (46 m / 26 f), Japanese male (fluent, read/write), Causasian female (English only).
Lean more towards exhibition/voyeur than swap play.
Really? Not the vibe I got on our visits in the past. We didn't have any problem chilling out in the social area.I suspect you will get a lot more sex at Olive 21, but it is not the best place if you want to chill and have a drink between sessions.
Bliss Out is foreigner friendly and so is Olive21. Couples lean towards Olive21 because the ratio is 1:1 as only couples are allowed entry. I’d say Olive21 requires more Japanese since you’re not going to get very far inside if you cannot communicate. It’s the men’s job to do the work at Olive21.I've noticed that the Japanese twitter pages I've been reading that are by couples tend to lean towards Olive 21.
Seems like Bliss Out might be more gaijin friendly?
Works fine here. (Are you actually in Japan?)We are planning on attending the Halloween party on 10/29 at Olive 21, just FYI.
I can't seem to get into the BBS for Olive 21 tho.. is everyone the same? (http://olive21.net/ >> http://69.5.18.223/board/index.html)
If you are not so much into swapping and want also to chill out, perhaps the best option is an HB with lounge area and play room with windows (BO), you will have a large audience of dudes. Sleeping Beauty Shibuya was quite good for that, but I don’t know how they are doing now under the new name Rocinante.Lean more towards exhibition/voyeur than swap play
CashDefinitely, if we have time, we'd like to experience both.
Btw, do you pay cash when you enter the establishment or some of you use credit cards?