Expectations vs Reality

[Sameguy]

So I haven't been doing P4P for too long.

I have been looking to do a P4P near the area from my apartment.

There are some things that I am afraid I might experience.

The girl that I want isn't into foreigners at all. The provider does not service foreigners at all.

The picture does not match the girls at all.

If the provider does accept foreigners, the girls who service foreigners are not what you were expecting.

The derihiru service in my area have some girls as cheap as 60 mins for 13,000 yen to 16000 yen for promotion. Is that the normal charge for local japanese shops?

I know those are some of my personal things.

What are some of the things that you have experience in regards to P4P?

 

[Spartacus77]

Yup, the concerns you list are all real (escorts not into foreigners, girls refusing to serve foreigners, bait and switch, heavily photoshopped images, etc).

You should do your due diligence, establish a budget of what you can actually afford to spend (wish I did that), and then dive in. The more often you venture, the easier and better It gets. I know I’m much skilled at this then when I started 6 years ago.

I’m from the US, the equivalent of 16,000 yen is a bargain here. If my price was only 16,000 yen I’d be partaking weekly, if not more often. Consider yourself lucky.

It’s a simple process, call and ask:
Gaikoku-jin de mo ii desu ka? If yes, go. If no try someplace mentioned here.

If your local shop says yes, let me know how it is. I’ll go there on my next visit if it’s anygood.

 

[Hofmeyer]

You're afraid of those things, but if you P4P you will experience all of those. It's just how it works.

 

[Mrmer]

I’ve ran into similar things in the states. When you meet the great ones you save that number lol. Wife and I have a regular we have been seeing for almost 5 years.

 

[steve969696]

I am probably going to jinx myself by saying this but if u do the right research and have the right bank you can avoid a bad experience. Now i admit my P4P is only in the 50-100 experiences range, but i have never had a bad or really even mediocre experience. (Stood up once in the US)

Research carefully. Choose girls in person when u can. If online take only girls with 5+ strong reviews. Dont just dive into sex — treat her like a girlfriend and warm her up. Anyhow life has been good to me in this regard, but i also have the bank to not troll too low.

I would recommend this if u can afford 35000 Yen — save up! They serve foreigners ONLY so that is their business and they are good at it. They dont photoshop heavily — plus they post their Tumblr accts, which are totally real — and most of the girls are real and classy. I think u have a better than 90% chance of success here if u pick a well reviewed girl.

 

[User#8628]

Keep in mind that delivery health is non FS. So the prices you mention are not that strange for a local shop with very average girls. You wont find top models for that and you cant really expect FS (if its a Japanese shop), although it can happen.

As for the pictures, they are usually a bit different from real but not always in a negative way. Do the pictures look like super models but the price is very low? Most likely a total bait and switch. Pictures that look like a real girl with a standard glossy photoshop filter over it are usually that, thats what do go for but expect the girl to be a bit more “real” (smaller eyes, less toned, bit older).

Just let the agency know that you’re a foreigner and if they and the girl are ok with it. If they reject you its not like you lose out on any money, so just move on and don’t take it personal.

 

[Sameguy]

My main concern is that I don't want my personal information being used anywhere. The girls on the delivery health website looks like they are foreign girls from thailand or some south east asian country which I don't mind. What I do mind is that some of them usually sell your personal information like phone numbers.

I remember reading something about people from Thailand or India calling people and telling them if they don't deposit whatever to whatever.

I might be over thinking it or being too paranoid.

Any suggestions for a prepaid calling card here in Tokyo?

 

[MikeH]

I might be over thinking it or being too paranoid.

Yes.

 

[User#8628]

My main concern is that I don't want my personal information being used anywhere. The girls on the delivery health website looks like they are foreign girls from thailand or some south east asian country which I don't mind. What I do mind is that some of them usually sell your personal information like phone numbers.

I remember reading something about people from Thailand or India calling people and telling them if they don't deposit whatever to whatever.

I might be over thinking it or being too paranoid.

Any suggestions for a prepaid calling card here in Tokyo?

Foreign delivery health huh? Well in that case, it probably allows foreign customers though maybe some girls wont, just be honest with the staff and there probably wont be surprises. FS is more likely to be included. Pictures could be a complete bait and switch though but that doesn’t mean the girl is unattractive, they just send whoever available and they keep pictures of girls whonare already back to their homecountry (not all Asian foreigner shops are like that but its common).

As for the phone number, nope, have never heard of delivery healths doing that. Burner phone likely wont work well, they are not comfortable with a guy calling that they cant confirm with. If there are love hotels in your area, you can check into one and use the hotel phone to make a booking.

 

[Durg50]

Keep in mind that delivery health is non FS. So the prices you mention are not that strange for a local shop with very average girls. You wont find top models for that and you cant really expect FS (if its a Japanese shop), although it can happen.

My experience of DH / HH although fairly limited (4-5 times) is that japanese shops that arent aimed at gaijin but do accept gaijin all have good looking girls on the roster and all accept FS for an extra fee direct to the girl. Just make sure you always pick a ‘ranked’ girl.

I watched a video of [Redacted] Maria (i wont link to it here but its the first thing that comes up if you google that phrase) and it just looked like such a shit experience. The girl has a spare tire, seems to be spaced out on something and isnt really attractive. All that for 40k. If you go to a regular DH or HH itll be less yen for an exponentially better time.

 

[Sameguy]

https://deli-fuzoku.jp/

That is the website I have been looking at. They have one for every prefecture in Japan. I don't personally know if any of the shops accept foreigners. For example, I took a look at the Ikebukuro one and it was weird. They had a shop full of caucasian girls who seemed to have been photoshopped. I don't know how they can pull off a bait and switch for foreigner girls or whatever.

Ill bite the bullet today and call my local shop and see if they accept foreigners.

 

[MikeH]

I don't know how they can pull off a bait and switch for foreigner girls or whatever.

That's a collection site you are looking at so at least they pretend to just list the available shops in any city. Though they might be doing more, some of those foreign girls were listed in several different shops at the same time ranging from Ikebukuro to Yokohama and Ebina.

It's not that it is a definitive a sign of a scam, they might drive them around but I would not be surprised if you end up with a different girl with no resemblance to any of the pics in their site.

 

[User#8628]

My experience of DH / HH although fairly limited (4-5 times) is that japanese shops that arent aimed at gaijin but do accept gaijin all have good looking girls on the roster and all accept FS for an extra fee direct to the girl. Just make sure you always pick a ‘ranked’ girl.

I watched a video of [Redacted] Maria (i wont link to it here but its the first thing that comes up if you google that phrase) and it just looked like such a shit experience. The girl has a spare tire, seems to be spaced out on something and isnt really attractive. All that for 40k. If you go to a regular DH or HH itll be less yen for an exponentially better time.

Agreed. My point was that he should not expect FS to be included in the standard price per se, with a Japanese agency.

 

[User#8628]

https://deli-fuzoku.jp/

That is the website I have been looking at. They have one for every prefecture in Japan. I don't personally know if any of the shops accept foreigners. For example, I took a look at the Ikebukuro one and it was weird. They had a shop full of caucasian girls who seemed to have been photoshopped. I don't know how they can pull off a bait and switch for foreigner girls or whatever.

Ill bite the bullet today and call my local shop and see if they accept foreigners.

Western girl agencies usually use pictures of models and have a 40 years old woman show up. Its just the standard.

 

[MikeH]

Western girl agencies usually use pictures of models and have a 40 years old woman show up. Its just the standard.

You are totally wrong. I don't think they normally send girls that young; you should expect the mother of the girl in the picture to show up.