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Grabbing a Gran Gran @ Jan Jan...

Discussion in 'Esute/Pink Salon/Massage Reviews' started by cyclonicleo1, May 17, 2018.

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  1. cyclonicleo1

    cyclonicleo1 TAG Member

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    Service and/or Provider's Name:
    Jan Jan, providers name unknown

    Date of Encounter:
    April 2018

    Contact Method:
    Walk-in

    Appointment Length & Costs:
    30 minutes, 3000 yen

    Type/Location:
    On-site, Sugamo

    Language Notes:
    Japanese, English

    Details of the Encounter:
    I was in Tokyo recently for my first ever trip and despite enjoying myself as a tourist immensely, I found myself being in great need of relief, being unable to erase the beauty of the local woman from my mind, but also being unable to find a suitable trigger to sustain release.

    In an effort to put the issue to bed, so to speak, I summoned up the courage to go Jan Jan, over in Sugamo. As I was staying in Asakusa, the journey there wasn't too bad, though Google Maps had me going completely in the wrong direction.

    After remembering the words of how to find the place from numerous reviews, I eventually stumbled across Jan Jan.

    The tencho outfront seemed different from previous descriptions, wearing a beanie cap and being quite pleasant. The Boss man downstairs, however, seemed like a gruff, cranky prick who was sick of seeing all these gaijin's coming into his establishment.

    Boss man took my 3k yen off me and led me to a leather, highbacked lounge seat with a towel already placed upon it. My eyesight is getting worse, so it took a whilst for my vision to adjust to the low light, but when I did, I was able to recognise some of the ladies as well as have my hearing tortured by some of the hi-nrg tunes being played to cover up the slurps happening to the several human udon noodles in the room.

    I waited some time and watched several of the ladies come and go with other customers, often a bit amazed at their advancing vintage, with one lady seemingly well into her 60's. "Not her, please...", I thought to myself, amazed that one particular lady was still able to walk at her age, let alone attempt to suck some cock.

    So, after waiting another 15 minutes or so, my courtesan of the blowjob arrived....and it was Miss Gran Gran from Jan Jan, herself. In a mix of broken English and incredibly shattered Japanese, we managed to communicate, my pants coming off and her attempting to make sure I was clean.

    Lets just say that I wasn't prepared for gran to not only make several remarks about the lack of penis size (how rude!), but then to also pull out a condom for a CBJ (I thought it a BBBJ territory here). This was a turn off and even though our lady tried her best to spice things up by getting naked and trying various tricks, Mr Happy was having none of it. My lady was, despite her status, fairly fit and petite. Fantasies came and went like lightning flashes in my mind, thoughts racing through years of memories, trying to unlock something, anything, to turn my non-cooperating member from a turgid, flaccid, sausage into something a bit more...impressive.

    No dice.

    This game of pick a wrinkle, any wrinkle, continued for another 15 minutes or so until Mr Boss-man came and motioned that time was up. I got dressed, commiserated my courtesan and apologised for my lack of performance (pointing to my crotch and muttering sincerely "gomen nasai"). Climbing the stairs, she was full of apologies....or muttering something in encouragement but I was too disappointed and frustrated to care. I bade the tencho good bye and embarrassed beyond belief, made my way back to the train station, hoping that none of the locals witnessed me leaving said establishment.

    Final Thoughts:
    Not Recommended.

    Closing Comments:
    Sad. Was hoping for more but there so many negatives at play here that I ultimately felt very put off. I don't mind older women, but when she could be your granny from another mammie, its just won't cut it.
     
  2. outtatime

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    Goodness. Thank you for sharing.
     
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  3. Sudsy

    SudsySudsy is a Verified Member Forever blowing bubbles....

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    Pink salon ladies who know they have an infection in their throat will use condoms.

    They will also use condoms if the client's personal hygiene is overly lacking.
     
  4. Simonka

    SimonkaSimonka is a Verified Member Lady in Black

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    Infection in the sense of STD or a regular flu or some allergy? I had to cancel a couple of times during allergy season. It must be unpleasant for them to keep working in such conditions..
     
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    SudsySudsy is a Verified Member Forever blowing bubbles....

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    STDs.
     
  6. cyclonicleo1

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    Ahh cheers, thanks for the extra info! I was clean and am meticulous about my own hygiene.
     
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  7. alexleaud

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    Thanks for the review. It's truly depressing to think how incredibly difficult it is to get a BJ (capped or uncapped) in Tokyo from a moderately attractive lady for gaijin for a decent price. Unless you want to pay tens of thousands of yen it's pretty much out of the question and those places aren't simply a BJ. There are so few options so everyone ends up at places like Jan Jan.
     
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  8. AliceInWonderland

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    There have been several reports of pink salons that have young girls and allow gaijin, they just need reasonable Japanese. If guys are too lazy to learn Japanese, thats on them, cheap places can affort to accept only customers who can understand their explaination of the rules.
     
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    I agree. Those of us who live here should be expected to understand Japanese to a certain degree although there's still a very high chance you'll be rejected anyway. With tourists it's definitely a different story... or those who are here only temporarily. I understand why a lot of these shops don't need our money. I'm just simply saying it's highly unfortunate that this is the case since so many people end up taking their chances with places like Jan Jan only to be serviced by 60 year olds.
     
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  10. Simonka

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    Personally the idea of "serving" man after man in a tiny booth shrills my bones. It could be a fun idea for a "glory hole" themed party or event but I dont think this is what I would personally prefer on a daily basis. I am so grateful for my opportunities. Apparently most women are on the same page with me so the women who work at such places are sadly older women (who need to work for whatever reason) and they are being made fun of on this website..

    Sorry but no young, brilliant woman, would work under such conditions for 3000 yen. (A fraction of that will go to the shop itself) Unless she has some mental health issues. It's very unrealistic to expect that.
     
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  11. AliceInWonderland

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    I think older ladies deserve jobs as well.
    If you are expecting pretty girls for cheap prices for tourist customers who bring nothing to the table in understanding the rules or being able to long term repeat and may also bring diseases that are more common in other countries, you’re giving this hopeless old lady no chance to do her job.

    I certainly hope that if i can’t or want to retire, there still is a cheap place that i can work at at any age.
     
  12. Simonka

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    Yeah.. Whenever I read such "complaints" it reminds me of my hard working mother. And I feel some lump in my throat.. She is educated so she never had to work under such conditions but I sometimes wonder if she would do that in case she had to.. We can be a little more respectful, shall we? I'm sure the "gran" who was humiliated by the op doesn't have much say over the actions of tencho.. Or has much choice in life..
     
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    I agree older ladies deserve jobs. I wouldn't suggest otherwise. I'm sure there are those out there who want to be serviced by 60+ ladies. That's fine too. I'm simply stating that I think it's too bad that so many people keep ending up at these places and getting highly disappointed which is a reoccurring factor with Jan Jan from the large number of reviews I've read about this place.

    Once again, regarding tourists and foreigners: I agree. As I stated above these shops don't need our business for the most part so it's entirely understandable. I simply stated that it's too bad. I wouldn't expect it to be any other way.
     
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    Really? I was always told by my Japanese friends that there are plenty of pink salons (which are Japanese only) where you can receive similar service from women younger than 50/60.
     
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  15. Simonka

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    Well I still want to keep some decency on this forum but how can I put it.. It's very unhealthy for a woman to suck 30 dicks per day. I'm not even talking about the mental harm.


    I don't think an attractive, young / youthful looking, smart and witty woman would prefer to work under such conditions.
     
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    I can't imagine most of them would either but as I was saying I think a lot of them do, right? There are a countless number of pink salons in Tokyo alone. I don't have much experience visiting these places but I always assumed a place like Jan Jan is an exception.
     
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    What I'm trying to say is when a girl has decent looks and personality unless she has severe mental health problems she won't work in a pink salon for her own sake. So please don't be so surprised if you guys bump into ladies with below average / worn out looks. And be respectful when reviewing..
     
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    Well, that's pretty harsh, no? I have met many young and cute girls who actually prefer to work in pink salons rather than do other sex work. It is a very safe environment, if a customer gets unpleasant help is just seconds away, there is no risk of pregnancy, and many Japanese-only places treat the girls very well in general.

    The courses run up to 16k (excluding shimei) depending on the length and the time of the day so a girl can usually expect to work with just five customers per day and go home with 30k to 50k a day.
     
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    30/5: 6000 yen from each guy for SW.. plus five guys each day is a lot of work load imo. Maybe I think women should be compensated for what they offer.
    There shouldn't be a risk of pregnancy anyway if you're using a condom properly :)
     
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    I was not trying to debate the exact pricing but rather state I think it is pretty judgemental to claim all girls preferring to work in a pink salon must have mental problems.

    Two hours in pink salon or 12 hour shift in McDonalds? Who am I to judge whichever way they choose to go. And according to the ex-leader of the greatest country in the word, it is not even sex work...
     
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    I was basing my judgement on the working conditions OP has described. Of course I'm not claiming "all girls in certain parts of the industry have mental illness". What I'm saying is directed at people who complain about lack of quality when they want to pay 3000 and it's certainly not directed at women
     
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    Yeah, well he was talking about the worst places of that particular industry. I was trying, albeit seems badly, to refer the discussion to the more decent places. Which do exist, even inside that market.

    I believe we both agree that in Tokyo nobody sucks random dicks for 3k per pop is her life is not in some kind of a difficult spot.

    Though what comes to the work load, at least one girl told me it is normally just around five minutes per guy, the rest is spend talking and cuddling. Getting 6k for that seemed like a good deal for her. :p
     
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    Being fair, I knew a very attractive young lady who worked in a pink salon and enjoyed it. She played it well, she could bring most guys off in a matter of minutes and spent the rest of the time chatting and cuddling up to them, more like an affectionate (albeit naked) hostess, which meant that she was pretty much getting shimei'd from start to finish throughout her shift.

    As Mike said, it was a much less risky environment than a lot of other services because she never had to be alone with a man behind a closed door.

    She took home a LOT of money - she basically worked there for three years, six days a week, then quit and bought a house outright and said she had plans to go to grad school.

    I haven't gone there in years, but when I did go there regularly, I got to know a few of the girls. Assuming not much has changed, the lower ranked full time girls at Jan Jan are making around 400K a month, and the women that get regulars with a lot of shimei are making quite a bit more - Jan Jan's shimei fees are pretty high. A lot of the women there are divorcees who have no job skills, and PS work pays double or triple what they would make waitressing or staffing a conbini counter.
     
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    What a lot of people forget is that Jan Jan's main customer demographic is retirees, as it is for most Sugamo shops. Older men often prefer slightly older women, so the staffing skews to higher ages as that's what the market there wants.

    If you want young providers, don't go to shops in areas that cater to senior citizens.
     
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