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After spending a bit of time lurking I decided to make an account. I moved to Japan about six months ago and have had some luck with dating etc. but it really is a lot of effort and can get expensive, especially since expectations between parties don't always align after the third or fourth date.

Found this forum because spending a bit to avoid the hassle, or at least as an occasional compromise, doesn't sound too bad. That said, I'd prefer have a bit more knowledge about the scene before I make the leap. Leaning towards trying out an esute first, and with Golden Week I've got more flexibility from work.

I'm in my mid-twenties so it seems I'm definitely skewing younger than most here. I live just outside of Tokyo but am usually there 3 days out of the week, so I'll make sure to post if I end up following through with anything.
 
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If pricing for 3-4 dates is expensive, pay-for-play might add up quickly for you too.

Honestly nampa culture is so big here. You can nampa a girl in a bar and take them to a 2nd/3rd bar and then just ask them if they want to go love hotel. That's alot cheaper than paid or multi-dates. Just read the vibes of the girl. Try out Ebisu yokocho, Shibuya niku yokocho, Miyashita yokocho as starters.
 
If pricing for 3-4 dates is expensive, pay-for-play might add up quickly for you too.

Honestly nampa culture is so big here. You can nampa a girl in a bar and take them to a 2nd/3rd bar and then just ask them if they want to go love hotel. That's alot cheaper than paid or multi-dates. Just read the vibes of the girl. Try out Ebisu yokocho, Shibuya niku yokocho, Miyashita yokocho as starters.

yes, there is another trade-off to consider though: how horny he (and she) would still be after the 3rd bar….
In my case it would be hopeless. But I drink a lot , and Im not in my mid-20s anymore, so there’s that.
 
yes, there is another trade-off to consider though: how horny he (and she) would still be after the 3rd bar….
In my case it would be hopeless. But I drink a lot , and Im not in my mid-20s anymore, so there’s that.

LOL that's so true. Some Japanese girls are so pro at getting the guy drunk so they don't have any strength for anything sexual after. lolz
 
If pricing for 3-4 dates is expensive, pay-for-play might add up quickly for you too.

Honestly nampa culture is so big here. You can nampa a girl in a bar and take them to a 2nd/3rd bar and then just ask them if they want to go love hotel. That's alot cheaper than paid or multi-dates. Just read the vibes of the girl. Try out Ebisu yokocho, Shibuya niku yokocho, Miyashita yokocho as starters.
Keeping in mind that most Japanese girls turn into dead fish syndrome after the third drink. Knowing how to recognize when she is not in condition to bite the bait is an art here. Specially because some of Japanese girls know how to act lick drunk as a previous free-pass to the love hotel.
 
Serious question, where’s a good place to meet girls for a relationship? I’m assuming those bar girls aren’t really relationship material.
 
Serious question, where’s a good place to meet girls for a relationship? I’m assuming those bar girls aren’t really relationship material.

Have you ever been to any bars in Japan? I’d imagine you haven’t nor are they like you are imagining.
 
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If pricing for 3-4 dates is expensive, pay-for-play might add up quickly for you too.
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I guess I misspoke. There is definitely a cost attached, but actually the issue was moreso the wasted time/money investment of going on several dates lasting from 3-6 hours to discover the girl is looking for something a bit more serious and conservative than they initially indicated. Not against something more serious, but until then I also gotta get my rocks off every once in a while if it isn’t clicking.

Funny enough during Golden week I ended up chatting with a girl at a bar and ended up at a hotel with them instead of hitting up the place I had planned on going, so maybe it was a mindset thing more than anything
 
Serious question, where’s a good place to meet girls for a relationship? I’m assuming those bar girls aren’t really relationship material.

I lost my touch to date Japanese women for serious relationships.
I recently only "date" Japanese escorts. Dinner, taking walks and banging at love hotels.
Zero drama, no attachments....
 
After spending a bit of time lurking I decided to make an account. I moved to Japan about six months ago and have had some luck with dating etc. but it really is a lot of effort and can get expensive, especially since expectations between parties don't always align after the third or fourth date.

Found this forum because spending a bit to avoid the hassle, or at least as an occasional compromise, doesn't sound too bad. That said, I'd prefer have a bit more knowledge about the scene before I make the leap. Leaning towards trying out an esute first, and with Golden Week I've got more flexibility from work.

I'm in my mid-twenties so it seems I'm definitely skewing younger than most here. I live just outside of Tokyo but am usually there 3 days out of the week, so I'll make sure to post if I end up following through with anything.
Glad to see new blood here.

I am in my mid-thirties, and I suspect I, too, am still younger than most of the crowd here. The thing is that everyone’s really, really nice and they don’t shit on you for being young, as long as you aren’t fucking it up for everyone else.

I really, really recommend setting aside a small amount of budget to do soaplands and pink salons; enough where you can get at least a weekly or bi-weekly nut in an orifice of an attractive woman. The post-nut clarity makes dating in this country 100 times simpler.

Since joining TAG and regularly splurging on p4p, it has been easier for me to pick up girls overall; hell, I don’t drink alcohol at all and go to the bar less than twelve times a year, yet I can find my way into the pantsu of ladies at the art gallery or community centers.

If you are in the Kawasaki area sometime shoot me a PM; I’ll be glad to give you some recommendations.