How can I start my own escort service?

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  1. Miguel Angelo

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    Hello Community Members,

    How do I start and operate my own escort services? I want to employ roughly 5 - 10 beautiful, young women and manage an escort service for gentleman seeking companionship. I am covering the expenses, which range from hair and make up, to wardrobe, to transportation, and marketing. If anyone having any idea relating this topic please suggest me.

    Best Regards,
    Miguel Angelo :)
     
  2. meiji

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    Well, let's start with the basics:

    Question 1) Is this in Japan?
    2) Is this catering to foreigners or to Japanese?
    3) If it's catering to Japanese, do you speak fluent Japanese?
    4) Are you providing Japanese women or foreign women?
    5) If you are providing Japanese women, see question 3. If you are providing foreign women, do you fluently speak the language in question (probably Chinese, Korean, or Russian/Ukranian/Czech)?
    6) Are you looking to be an official service (pay taxes, etc), if so, do you have residence status in Japan and/or the money to invest to make this happen. If not, are you willing to suffer the consequences of running a business and not paying taxes in Japan?
    7) Are you willing to face regular financial and possibly criminal/physical threats from the police and/or Japanese organized crime?

    8) Finally, do you know five to ten beautiful, young women who are willing to provide sexual favors to random (gaijin?) strangers for money? If they are foreign women, do they have legal status to live and work in Japan, or willing to suffer the consequences of living and working in japan illegally?
     
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    Where? Japan?

    You won't be able to offer decent rates and provide all of those services to the ladies that you would take care of. The fees for clients would be prohibitively expensive for your average client. The high rollers have their own internal network of high-class ladies.

    Funny thing, college students come into Japan every year thinking they can make a quick buck running an escort service, until they're run out of Japan by those other well established services.

    Those ladies expense high-pay, which means you may only see a 20-30% margin and then minus your expenses to operate, you'd probably run red unless you slave your girls out around the clock.

    Well, just give it some serious thought. (unless you're just rich and don't mind burning cash.)
     
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    I would just reduce expenditure by running most of the girl's needs through them. They pay for all things needed and you pay transport and percentages. All you'd need is a so-so website, a few posts (with permission) in the right places and a email address. Girls work for pay and don't get salary.

    Say you advertise a 35,000 yen course for 90 minutes (or whatever) and employ Koreans and Chinese at a 30% cut. The customer pays transportation based on a set rate. You arrange all meets between girls and customers via email or phone in Japan. On completion of services, the girls give you their daily take. You check and give them their cut. And that's all. Well, you would probably make money.

    I think anyone could do this part time as a side thing with 3 girls and a website. However, you'll have to dodge the law and the mob or pay protection. That's expensive in its own right. Full time is another story.
     
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    I would also add the difficulty of 'policing' the girls would be a pain in the butt. You are probably looking at cheap third world country giirls (Thai, Philo, Chinese, etc.), so they will skip with your cash occassionally. You might also need to break some noses now and then. That often leads to people running you down in their cars and so on. That's not to mention girls getting wasted on the job or taking drugs. Being a pimp is not much of a party. The job description is unpleasant.
     
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    all you need is a valid gaijin visa. from there go to your local police station, you need to speak and read and write japanese. get the license, pay the fees. now make sure before you do all of that you talk to the local man, yakuza and get their approval and how much you need to pay them for their advise every month. then you gotta deal wih girls who are probably totally fucked in the head.
     
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    Glamourous indeed.
     
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    Funny how whenever someone makes a suggestion, everyone piles on with all the reasons why it's a horrible idea & won't work. The fact is that it is possible -- many other people are doing it, after all. If you're brave/crazy enough to deal with the personalities that populate the industry (& that involves the police & local crims), dedicated enough to the business to see it through, and are serious about making good customer service a priority, you'll succeed as well as the others.

    Of course you'll need at least a couple of willing women to start things off as well. That could be the hardest part, depending on your social circles.
     
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    To my mind, someone that knows that many girls willing to put out for money, and himself has enough money and connections to make it work isn't going to be posting on a web-board asking for general suggestions on starting one up. Yes, it can be done, but the two or three hurdles I mentioned are really big hurdles. The rest is just "how do I open a business in Japan?"
     
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    Marcfive, I don't think anyone is trying to demotivate or shoot down this idea. Let's face it, this is not your standard business startup question...like say 'how can I open a Resturant?'.

    Most people on this site are your typical 6 pack joes (no disrespect intended to anyone) with jobs/business and salarymen mindset (yours truly included). So while I use lines like "Danger is my middle name" to entice a young J-girl at a Roppongi bar, I have certain threshold to handle the risk of dealing with yakuzas, police and trending on the wrong side of law.

    No doubt anything done with passion, hard work and right attitude will be successful and flesh business is the oldest and most successful biz of all times..:) but don't expect much from us mortals here ;-).

    We mean no harm by our unsolicited advice but these are just our fear/risk aversion which takes the form of those words when replying.

    Peace :)
     
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    also dont forget about accountants, insurance, paying taxes etc.
     
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    Regular shops, do have all of this and a real license from the Japanese Police/Government. A number of the other agencies that are mostly out-call only aren't licensed and don't pay taxes etc.

    The rules regarding a licensed shop is a long list of very specific rules that are required to be followed in order to be a licensed shop.

    Now, that doesn't mean that every Japanese agency is licensed. But there, you get involved with the Yakuza and brown paper-bag payments to locals to turn a blind eye to it.

    I could go on, however, that's the general idea.
     
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    All true! guess I just don't want to discourage competition in this business, ha ha.

    It's not the sort of business I'd want to get involved in personally (on the ownership side) but if you feel you're the type of person who could do it well, then go for it. Asking on a forum like this is no problem either, just getting a feel for what people think.
     
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    Which category does AM fall into? It it licensed and paying taxes? Does it pay off the Y's?

    Does the yakuza hire people to scout the internet for new local escort services so they can pay them a visit?
     
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    Good question. Considering they don't have a .jp address nor a JP landline phone number (starting with 03- instead of a cell phone prefix 080-), it's certainly possible that they aren't an officially registered Japanese company. That doesn't mean they aren't paying taxes -- I'm pretty sure whoever owns it can run it as a 'small business', pay personal taxes on his income, and pay his screeners and escorts as independent contractors.

    I think as long as they don't have a physical "retail" presence, they don't have to officially register under the fuzoku law, but they obviously can't outright break the law and advertise full service and the like.

    Caveat: I'm halfway talking out of my ass here- I'm not an expert on Japanese law, and I don't play a lawyer on TV.
     
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    AM doesn't accept Japanese clients or at least in the past they would reject clients from Japan if they detected that they were Japanese. This may be their way of avoiding the Yakuza. As for licensed and/or paying taxes, I kind of doubt it based on their business practices. However, there are plenty of shops operating in Japan in the same manner AM does, so I think they only get attention from the police if they draw too much attention to themselves.

    Example: A licensed shop is required to display a certificate and it should be available for viewing by customers. I requested a photo of a real certificate from a real shop and I'll post it for reference once received. (minus the shop's name and registration number) -- Regular police inspections are required and they can close a shop if there is any slight deviation from the rules. A hotel health shop was closed recently because the police didn't approve of the waiting area of where the girls were made to wait for clients. Delivery health shops have the same rules, but just slightly different due to the nature of the business.

    Back to the Yakuza for a moment, we believe they don't target agencies that cater to non-Japanese since that does not impact their business. If the Yakuza get more deeply involved in agencies for foreigners, then I bet you would see some shops disappear. Foreign-owned shops, such as night clubs, eateries and other shop-front stores would be more likely to get a visit from the local turf managers (Yakuza sub-bosses).

    We have a number of contacts in the industry and none of them will openly discuss Yakuza issues.
     
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    In following up from my post above, the legal name of the certificate that all legal shops should have is:

    無店舗型性風俗特殊営業届出確認書
    (non-shop type sexual entertainment special business registration confirmation)

    The short name used by the workers is kakunin-sho or confirmation form.

    I've received the picture of a current form, but need to edit it to remove the personal information, registration number and other details. We're also worried someone could copy this form and make a fake one from it.

    (We may not post it, unless we're sure it's safe to do so... You can do your own research on the terms I mentioned above.)
     
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    No need to go to the trouble. Fuzoku shop sites often provide a copy themselves. Here is one from this interesting shop:

    http://stella.1000.tv/kakunin.html
     

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    you will not be asked to pay them you will be asked to join the local business kumiai association. yes they often fofgo this requirement for foreigners, if they like you. there are, in many cases benefits to joining. you may be able to attend monthly meetings and use the meetings to discuss getting more business in the area. you may also be asked to set you pricing according to what the kumiai deems appropriate. i know one foreigner here in japan that flat out refused to join. they left him alone. i know others that joined and others that were told they do not need to join. if your really going to do this you should show these associations respect.
     
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    Thanks for that, kind of relieved. I was more worried about accidentally identifying one the shops we get contacts from. However, yes, that is basically the same form. The one we got, has some additional text on the bottom but the essential pieces are the same.

    Thanks again Muku1.
     
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    AM has been known to advertise for girls in a fuzoku 'jobs listing' magazine. Don't know if they still do that, but they do keep another regular ad in the Metropolis magazine. As for website and phones:

    1) .com is cheaper, .jp is open to anyone but is expensive. (.co.jp is restricted to registered business, GK, KK etc.)

    2) Phones - I guess they don't have a regular office, so they use a cell phone so that it can be moved from operator to operator easily. They had at least two or three operators last I checked. (including Yuka)

    Sorry for missing this post last night, you posted just before me and I just realized it was here.
     
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    Sounds like AM has a good biz model. They avoid the Yakus AND the tax man. Nice.
     

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