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warubuta said:
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Its really none of our business why they aren’t fucking. But why do you think they aren’t fucking?
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Of course it's none of our business. But hey, inquiring minds want to know. I read the answer before I could come up with a theory though. The truth is waaay more out of left field than anything I could've made up.

Zoolman said:
The only thing restraining me now is the shame of possibly "cheating", moreover, if I still see myself with her.
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Doing P4P for the first time is kind of like turning the keys that launch the nukes. Once you do it there's no going back to who you were before you let some strange chick suck your dick and bang you in a hotel room. I used to try and stretch the definition of cheating to somehow not include P4P but then I gave up and said fuck it. I'm a married dude and while I do partake in such things, I still love and care for my family. This (among other things) is what keeps me sane. You have to decide whether you want to live with the guilt (or whatever it is you feel) about having relations, paid or otherwise, with another person. Not an easy decision so I wish you best of luck with that.

Sudsy said:
In all fairness, the worst I ever ran into at Jan Jan was along the level of slightly pudgy.

Extreme morbid obesity, that”s Happy Hinomaru’s contribution to the memories I wish I could drink away.
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Yikes. I'm glad I was never tempted to try Hinomaru then.

I had a decent streak going at Jan Jan with not too overweight ladies until the last time I went. I swear I think I saw my dick disappear into a fat roll and I'm almost rather ashamed that I finished anyways.
 
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Lukes said:
You have to decide whether you want to live with the guilt (or whatever it is you feel) about having relations, paid or otherwise, with another person. Not an easy decision so I wish you best of luck with
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This.
 
Zoolman said:
This.
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Yea but the only reason You are considering P4P is because your gf won’t fuck you. So you are already excusing yourself and blaming your gf. It’s bullshit. What you should do is man up and confront the gf with the fact that, by her choice not yours, you have an abnormal relationship. Abnormal because it is devoid of sexual intercourse and there has been no discussion of why she won’t fuck you and there is no agreement on it. It’s just enertia. You care for her. She, for reasons she hasn’t explained, doesn’t want to do it. I see weakness on both sides here. I think you need to get it out in the open. Being young, horny having a gf and considering P4P is a recipe for trouble. You are going to end up in a world of pain if you are not careful.
 
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Zoolman said:
So I havd a girlfriend (with who no penetration happens)
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Sooner or later, all of us find ourselves in unpleasant situations. The important thing is to recognize there is a problem and address that problem. You seem to be trapped in a bad relationship.

Zoolman said:
I kind of developed a syndrom that I never cared about, the fact that I could be spending my life with the same person, without "tasting" anyone else, and the thing that bothered me is that, she did.
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That sounds like Stockholm Syndrome.

btw, did she “taste” other people during your current relationship? If so, that’s another Red Flag and a sign that you should leave.

I wish that there was a special TAG Hostage Rescue Team that could save you from your current situation.
 
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Sudsy said:
In all fairness, the worst I ever ran into at Jan Jan was along the level of slightly pudgy.

Extreme morbid obesity, that”s Happy Hinomaru’s contribution to the memories I wish I could drink away.
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Happy Hinomaru used to have numerous skinny girls in their late 30s.
 
And yeah, OP, talk to your GF first and be honest with your feelings... do you see yourself keeping the relationship and ‘cheating?’ Do you want to have sex with anyone? A special person? Many people? Go to Shibuya and look at the women there, do you want to fuck all the 7s+? 6s+? All of them!? If you do, it’s time to end that relationship. Also, if you ever decide to try p4p, an indie is the safest bet... however with your Japanese level, you could try a Seku Kyaba (you can kiss and suck girls breasts) and test the waters... the guilt is more manageable... (or nonexistent after many times ;p) Good luck!
 
DireWolf98 said:
Happy Hinomaru used to have numerous skinny girls in their late 30s.
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No, that was the original Hinomaru. Happy Hinomaru is a different business in the same location - the original owner went to prison IIRC, as he had the girls providing FS - which I'm sure you also remember. ;)

But Hof is probably right, some of the current roster are old enough to have been working there in the mid 90s.
 
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OP: I believe in true love, but I don’t believe in monogamy. In my book you can be in love with someone but have multiple sexual partners, or even enjoy threesomes together with your significant other & discover your sexuality. I don’t have any moral obligations against anything as long as it involves consenting adults. Do you think it’s morally acceptable for your partner to confine you into a sexless life and ignore your basic human needs?
 
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I was about to quote one post, but then I realized it's not just a one person assumption.
So to make it clear (and my girlfriend was here 5min ago, trying to have the D).
She is not the one refusing sex, she is pretty thirsty actually. I don't understand where I was not clear enough to make you think that she was the culprit.


I'm the only responsable here, as I said, I'm mentally refusing it, there's something in my brain triggering... It's as if, my brain refuses to acknowledge her as the only one I'll have forever, when she had the chance to taste different guys (before me, for the one asking)... I know it may sound weird, but well, we don't chose our shit.
I thought that I just didn't like her body, but I actually get responsive quite easily. So yes, she doesn't have the body type I prefer, but I think she is a good 7.

Maybe I'm still living in a porn, over consuming was definitely unhealthy.

@Simonka I like that book.
 
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Zoolman said:
I was about to quote one post, but then I realized it's not just a one person assumption.
So to make it clear (and my girlfriend was here 5min ago, trying to have the D).
She is not the one refusing sex, she is pretty thirsty actually. I don't understand where I was not clear enough to make you think that she was the culprit.


I'm the only responsable here, as I said, I'm mentally refusing it, there's something in my brain triggering... It's as if, my brain refuses to acknowledge her as the only one I'll have forever, when she had the chance to taste different guys (before me, for the one asking)... I know it may sound weird, but well, we don't chose our shit.
I thought that I just didn't like her body, but I actually get responsive quite easily. So yes, she doesn't have the body type I prefer, but I think she is a good 7.

Maybe I'm still living in a porn, over consuming was definitely unhealthy.

@Simonka I like that book.
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Hmmmm so you think she’s not hot enough , so you don’t give her the pleasure of your appendage... and you also think that escorts are too hot , and that intimidates you...
Boy, and I thought I had issues ... :D
 
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Frenchy said:
Hmmmm so you think she’s not hot enough , so you don’t give her the pleasure of your appendage... and you also think that escorts are too hot , and that intimidates you...
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Intimidating because I have no experience. That's all^^
 
Zoolman said:
Intimidating because I have no experience. That's all^^
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Well it’s no big secret they certainly don’t give a toss about your experience or lack thereof. And most if not all already helped virgin guys. Think of it as paying for piano lessons at beginner level. Nothing to be ashamed of. In fact I wish I had lost my virginity to a pro.
 
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Zoolman said:
Intimidating because I have no experience. That's all^^
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You know what, as long as you refuse to give the dick to the girl who asks for it you will continue not to have experience.

In my book a gentleman always helps a damsel in distress, in other words provides the dick when it is requested. To not do so is one of only two sins that get you immediately to hell according to the holy writings of the Church of Uncle Mike.

You need a friendly but a very firm kick to your butt to jump-start your brain to start functioning.
 
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Zoolman said:
Intimidating because I have no experience. That's all^^
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Avoidance won’t give you experience.
Zoolman said:
I'm the only responsable here, as I said, I'm mentally refusing it, there's something in my brain triggering... It's as if, my brain refuses to acknowledge her as the only one I'll have forever, when she had the chance to taste different guys (before me, for the one asking)...
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Having sex with her right now does not mean you only have to have sex with only her forever. Nothing is preventing you from ‘tasting’ other girls after you ‘taste’ her.

Or is it that you want to even out the playing field and have sex with other girls before you do her just like she’s had sex with other guys? Because that’s what it sounds like is happening.
Zoolman said:
I know it may sound weird, but well, we don't chose our shit.
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We don’t choose our shit, but we can choose whether or not we stay in the same shitty place in life. Stay with her and come to terms with your situation or feel like this forever, cheat on her with a bunch of girls and then do her later, do her now and then cheat after, break up with her then do many girls and then try to get back with her, or break up with her for good and bang a bunch of girls. You have many choices.
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"Boy, you listen to me...it's time to move on. Get rid of her. You don't want to stay with just one. I mean it, you fuck as many girls as you can, every type you can, have as much fun as you possibly can while you're young...and then you can get married and you won't have to cheat on your wife like all your uncles and life will be much easier for you."
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^ this. @Zoolman read this. And then read it again. And then again. Because that there’s some good advice from Keihan.
 
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Sudsy said:
No, that was the original Hinomaru. Happy Hinomaru is a different business in the same location - the original owner went to prison IIRC, as he had the girls providing FS - which I'm sure you also remember. ;)

But Hof is probably right, some of the current roster are old enough to have been working there in the mid 90s.
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Ah, yes, I remember one skillful girl who loved the Cow Girl position - perfect for those chairs.
 
DireWolf98 said:
Ah, yes, I remember one skillful girl who loved the Cow Girl position - perfect for those chairs.
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I remember her too. But in all likelihood there was probably more than one cowgirl back then. Yipikaiyea!
 
Zoolman said:
Intimidating because I have no experience. That's all^^
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As quoted in a popular movie.. and quite appropriate for this thread.... OP......" you are putting the pussy on a pedestal" I suggest you watch the movie called 40 year old virgin.... You may take away some nuggets of useful information as well as have a laugh or two...

Porn is definitely not the problem... You have psyched yourself to the point where you maybe feel your performance will not be worthy of your "GF" even she begging for your cock, you refuse to give it to her... Well, she will go and find it another place... When a Horse Gets Hungry... It Will Eat.... just a matter of will it eat what you feed it or go to other pastures to dine...

Women hold special meaning to their virginity and rightly so... but TBH... I've never heard of a dude doing the same thing.... most dudes can't wait to dip and then the "flood gates" open and that is what 70% of your brain is occupied with..

In most relationships: 30% Communication, 30% Compatibility, 30% sexual relations, 10% for other shit :D I can not recite the source of this information, but it's considered "normal"....
 
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Zoolman said:
I was about to quote one post, but then I realized it's not just a one person assumption.
So to make it clear (and my girlfriend was here 5min ago, trying to have the D).
She is not the one refusing sex, she is pretty thirsty actually. I don't understand where I was not clear enough to make you think that she was the culprit.


I'm the only responsable here, as I said, I'm mentally refusing it, there's something in my brain triggering... It's as if, my brain refuses to acknowledge her as the only one I'll have forever, when she had the chance to taste different guys (before me, for the one asking)... I know it may sound weird, but well, we don't chose our shit.
I thought that I just didn't like her body, but I actually get responsive quite easily. So yes, she doesn't have the body type I prefer, but I think she is a good 7.

Maybe I'm still living in a porn, over consuming was definitely unhealthy.

@Simonka I like that book.
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You need to untwist your tortured mind.
 
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So where do you guys find the inde escorts? I would like to find by criteria(mature). I quickly checked the forum, but there's no "list", only reviews and limited number of ads, right?
 
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