Thoughts on Marian?

[konbini guy]

http://tokyo.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...lippines-independence-and-real-person/3877333

BP escort from Philippines
I want you guys to look at her pics and hear your thoughts about her
I will try not to insinuate anything here
just want honest answers

 

[TAG Manager]

One review here: https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/first-trans-experience.12715/ (same girl)

I believe we tried some follow-up, but nothing came from it. Seems like she's been in Tokyo and Seoul, but again, no other information.

No real opinion; kind of hard to tell from pictures and no other info to go on.

 

[scorpioni6ths]

I haven't met her in person ... I was in the process of negotiations last weekend but got turned off by her "professionalism" or lack of it.

forgot to answer my questions about her time availability bec I already shared the times I was available. I reminded her the next day got no direct answer.

also didn't want to meet at an LH. you'll have to do incall at her place.

 

[konbini guy]

One review here: https://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/first-trans-experience.12715/ (same girl)

I believe we tried some follow-up, but nothing came from it. Seems like she's been in Tokyo and Seoul, but again, no other information.

No real opinion; kind of hard to tell from pictures and no other info to go on.

I'll be careful not to use the T word here cause you guys are gonna be ganging up on me again. It's been hard to discuss this concern of mine without people playing the LGBT political correctness card, and me being labeled a bully and a bigot.

but here's the deal

I find it mind-boggling that a simple eye test and listening to the escort's voice on the short video provided, won't convince you that she is not what she advertises her to be. Keep in mind that nowhere in her ad does she mention being post-op. Plus, the testimony of @James Meister wherein he pointed out that something's a little off with her feet and hands. And he did mention the voice, too. At least James was suspicious. At least he notices these things.

My concern is that a lot of unknowing straight guys may have already paid for her services. If that's not scamming to you, I don't know what you would consider scamming.

How about you @scorpioni6ths ? are you trying to book her because you like TS, or you also think she's a real woman.

 

[scorpioni6ths]

How about you @scorpioni6ths ? are you trying to book her because you like TS, or you also think she's a real woman.

I just wanna have fun

honestly if she's straight good ... if she's TS then I'm not a TS virgin anymore.

IMHO hands and feet are not clear indicators to me. original reviewer mentioned it but did no describe what seems to be off ... too big? not smooth enough? the Phils is a 3rd world country not everyone is afforded the comfort of a spa everyday or weekend. children run around barefoot. if she greets me with a deep voice though i'd probably never have a hardon during the session.

 

[cabbie]

I'll be careful not to use the T word here cause you guys are gonna be ganging up on me again. It's been hard to discuss this concern of mine without people playing the LGBT political correctness card, and me being labeled a bully and a bigot.

but here's the deal

I find it mind-boggling that a simple eye test and listening to the escort's voice on the short video provided, won't convince you that she is not what she advertises her to be. Keep in mind that nowhere in her ad does she mention being post-op. Plus, the testimony of @James Meister wherein he pointed out that something's a little off with her feet and hands. And he did mention the voice, too. At least James was suspicious. At least he notices these things.

My concern is that a lot of unknowing straight guys may have already paid for her services. If that's not scamming to you, I don't know what you would consider scamming.

How about you @scorpioni6ths ? are you trying to book her because you like TS, or you also think she's a real woman.

At first glance my immediate reaction was the same as yours. She doesn't appear to have been born a woman.

 

[konbini guy]

At first glance my immediate reaction was the same as yours. She doesn't appear to have been born a woman.

I actually replied to James Meister's thread. That was last year, and I remember my reply just now. These were my exact words: "bro, it's a guy". Then a mod got mad at me, deleted my post, and locked the thread.

In my experience, everytime a question is asked about TS, whether so and so is TS or not. And somebody replies TS, mods seem to get uncomfortable. They always say something like "don't accuse if you don't have evidence".

And there are certain users who will change the topic to LGBT hate. There was this one user (I wouldn't even name names) who even played the role of my psychologist. That since I'm so worried about TS, that I hate the entire LGBT, that I may be gay myself, and gave me some articles to read in case I'm closet gay. Such ridiculous leaps and stretches just to be politically correct. You see, being pro-LBGT nowadays means you're politically correct. I'm having none of that.

I am not a LGBT hater. I have gay friends. LGBT is fine as long as you're not pushing your gayness on me. A post-op posing as a real female, that's pushing your gayness on people. I have the right to speak up against that. And I will. This won't be the last time.

If you're a TS escort, just be honest and put TS in your ad. Otherwise, you're gonna hear from me. I can bitch about this forever. We all just want the truth at the end of the day.

 

[konbini guy]

I just wanna have fun

honestly if she's straight good ... if she's TS then I'm not a TS virgin anymore.

IMHO hands and feet are not clear indicators to me. original reviewer mentioned it but did no describe what seems to be off ... too big? not smooth enough? the Phils is a 3rd world country not everyone is afforded the comfort of a spa everyday or weekend. children run around barefoot. if she greets me with a deep voice though i'd probably never have a hardon during the session.

He does not need to go into detail because he's basing it off his intuition. Not all of us are experts or doctors. But sometimes, intuition is more powerful than scientific detail.

I'm from Philippines too, and it's not like everyone there is poor. Even the lower middle class can afford aesthtic treatments. And there are lots of TS escorts in the Phils. I personally know one.

And pay attention to this, as this is a common characteristic of the TS escort: They move around a lot. Country to country. Their stays lasting just a few weeks.

 

[User#6517]

I actually replied to James Meister's thread. That was last year, and I remember my reply just now. These were my exact words: "bro, it's a guy". Then a mod got mad at me, deleted my post, and locked the thread.

In my experience, everytime a question is asked about TS, whether so and so is TS or not. And somebody replies TS, mods seem to get uncomfortable. They always say something like "don't accuse if you don't have evidence".

And there are certain users who will change the topic to LGBT hate. There was this one user (I wouldn't even name names) who even played the role of my psychologist. That since I'm so worried about TS, that I hate the entire LGBT, that I may be gay myself, and gave me some articles to read in case I'm closet gay. Such ridiculous leaps and stretches just to be politically correct. You see, being pro-LBGT nowadays means you're politically correct. I'm having none of that.

I am not a LGBT hater. I have gay friends. LGBT is fine as long as you're not pushing your gayness on me. A post-op posing as a real female, that's pushing your gayness on people. I have the right to speak up against that. And I will. This won't be the last time.

If you're a TS escort, just be honest and put TS in your ad. Otherwise, you're gonna hear from me. I can bitch about this forever. We all just want the truth at the end of the day.

You have addressed transgender/transsexual people as "trannies" before, an offensive term for trans-people. You have even accused me and other independent escorts of being trans (I'm not, but god.. so many trans-women are better at makeup and better-looking than me.. so I'm not really mad at your comment).

Anyway, yes. You're right. You have the freedom to speak your mind and all.. but so does everyone else. Don't expect to say bullshit and not get responses back.

 

[konbini guy]

You have addressed transgender/transsexual people as "trannies" before, an offensive term for trans-people. You have even accused me and other independent escorts of being trans (I'm not, but god.. so many trans-women are better at makeup and better-looking than me.. so I'm not really mad at your comment).

Anyway, yes. You're right. You have the freedom to speak your mind and all.. but so does everyone else. Don't expect to say bullshit and not get responses back.

I said I presume you guys are TS until I have further evidence that you're real female. That's different from accusing. Is presume a synonym of accuse?

About the offensive term, I've since changed the way I refer to them since y'all are too sensitive about their feelings.

I don't wanna get my posts deleted

and mods have this nasty habit of locking threads just when the conversation starts to get fun

 

[konbini guy]

I just wanna have fun

honestly if she's straight good ... if she's TS then I'm not a TS virgin anymore.

IMHO hands and feet are not clear indicators to me. original reviewer mentioned it but did no describe what seems to be off ... too big? not smooth enough? the Phils is a 3rd world country not everyone is afforded the comfort of a spa everyday or weekend. children run around barefoot. if she greets me with a deep voice though i'd probably never have a hardon during the session.

it's not the deep voice that gives them away. It's the eyes and chin.

 

[Hofmeyer]

For fucks sake, you keep pretending you wanna debate in good faith but the second it seems somewhat like someone is agreeing with you, you start screaming about being right and how the mods are too harsh on you. And you didn't accuse the escorts here of being trans? Your just "presumed?" Bullshit, stop trying to spin your own words into something you didn't say or do I need to copy your posts yet again? You said you might not even believe Hana wasn't trans even if she posted evidence of her giving birth. And "I'll stop referring to them as trannies... because you care about their feelings."

That's about as meaningless as "I'm sorry your feelings got hurt." Take some fucking ownership of your words and stop pretending everyone is out to get you.

 

[User#8628]

From her pictures she looks chubby in a way that people who are born biologically a man do usually not. Just my opinion.

And i think the problem is not that you wanna speculate if people are trans, but that it always ends in a discussion exactly like this one here, thanks to your extreme hostility.

If you would just voice your opinion nutrally like "she looks like a post op trans to me so if you have a problem with that be careful" there would be a lot less drama than always making comments like "those damn liars! They are men who want to trick us blablabla". Their ads are not gonna chance if you say that and its just unpleasant for everyone.

And instead of inquiring about backpage, where the amound of post op transsexuals is relatively high, just go to a Japanese shop.

 

[MikeH]

I said I presume you guys are TS until I have further evidence that you're real female.

If Hana is a guy then I will turn gay this instant.

And from now on I will presume @konbini guy is actually konbini gay until I have further evidence.

 

[konbini guy]

For fucks sake, you keep pretending you wanna debate in good faith but the second it seems somewhat like someone is agreeing with you, you start screaming about being right and how the mods are too harsh on you. And you didn't accuse the escorts here of being trans? Your just "presumed?" Bullshit, stop trying to spin your own words into something you didn't say or do I need to copy your posts yet again? You said you might not even believe Hana wasn't trans even if she posted evidence of her giving birth. And "I'll stop referring to them as trannies... because you care about their feelings."

That's about as meaningless as "I'm sorry your feelings got hurt." Take some fucking ownership of your words and stop pretending everyone is out to get you.

please do copy my post again, the one in that occurred in December

 

[konbini guy]

@Hofmeyer

cmon do it

post the link to the argument where you said I accused them of being TS
where in fact I used the word presume

you're already technically wrong there

 

[konbini guy]

From her pictures she looks chubby in a way that people who are born biologically a man do usually not. Just my opinion.

And i think the problem is not that you wanna speculate if people are trans, but that it always ends in a discussion exactly like this one here, thanks to your extreme hostility.

If you would just voice your opinion nutrally like "she looks like a post op trans to me so if you have a problem with that be careful" there would be a lot less drama than always making comments like "those damn liars! They are men who want to trick us blablabla". Their ads are not gonna chance if you say that and its just unpleasant for everyone.

And instead of inquiring about backpage, where the amound of post op transsexuals is relatively high, just go to a Japanese shop.

it just came from you that I'm probably right

 

[konbini guy]

If Hana is a guy then I will turn gay this instant.

And from now on I will presume @konbini guy is actually konbini gay until I have further evidence.

are you into TS?

 

[chaztagster]

Perhaps youre trans-phobic. I am not sure. What seems clear to me, though, is that you have a one track mind. You are a fantasist whose obsession may cause harm to the people that you're publicly shaming.
There are so many real scams and scammers that you could warn us about but don't. Your unique focus is to shame people that you assume to be trans and assume to be scammers.
Your blinkered perspective and sense of moral indignation is, perhaps, the reason that you feel justified in your behavior. But in my view, you're not performing a service. You're bullying people.

 

[konbini guy]

Perhaps youre trans-phobic. I am not sure. What seems clear to me, though, is that you have a one track mind. You are a fantasist whose obsession may cause harm to the people that you're publicly shaming.
There are so many real scams and scammers that you could warn us about but don't. Your unique focus is to shame people that you assume to be trans and assume to be scammers.
Your blinkered perspective and sense of moral indignation is, perhaps, the reason that you feel justified in your behavior. But in my view, you're not performing a service. You're bullying people.

I did not assume them to be TS. They are TS. @User#8628 said it herself. Backpage has a lot of TS

My problem is they don't put in their ad that their TS

An unknowing straight guy books them, thinking they're female, how does that differ from rape? how does it differ from a much stronger dude molesting a weaker dude in a public restroom?

Okay, I'm a bully becuase I stand up for these victims :d

 

[User#6517]

I did not assume them to be TS. They are TS.

You just contradicted yourself.

I don't know if Marian is trans or not, but either way, she looks beautiful to me.

As for me.. I'm pretty damn sure I'm a woman.

As for other independent escorts on TAG.. I'm pretty damn sure they're all women. I've met a lot of the TAG providers, and there's not a single masculine trait in them.

Out of all the girls you've accused of being trans, you've only met me, and you didn't say anything about me possibly being trans until I defended Wwanderer when he spoke his opinion on a subject and you didn't like what he said.

 

[konbini guy]

You just contradicted yourself.

I don't know if Marian is trans or not, but either way, she looks beautiful to me.

As for me.. I'm pretty damn sure I'm a woman.

As for other independent escorts on TAG.. I'm pretty damn sure they're all women. I've met a lot of the TAG providers, and there's not a single masculine trait in them.

Out of all the girls you've accused of being trans, you've only met me, and you didn't say anything about me possibly being trans until I defended Wwanderer when he spoke his opinion on a subject and you didn't like what he said.

you do not seem to understand presume vs accuse

you keep using the word "accuse" for that thing about TAG escorts, when in fact, I used the word "presume". The funny thing is that fools like @Hofmeyer and you keep back tracking to that link where I clearly used the word "presume", that in itself proves you wrong

Presuming TAG escorts to be trans becuase I'm a bit paranoid, is different from saying a certain BP escort is trans from my own eye test (and with at least several people backing me up on that).

I never accused TAG escorts of being trans, becuase as you've said, I never met most of them. The fact that I booked you means you probably passed some of my tests. I got past the presumption stage. I wouldn't say you're a suspect trans based on the meeting. That's all that controversial post that you and Hofmeyer keep on linking to, that's simply what it meant. That I'm careful and maybe too paranoid, but that's my problem

 

[Hofmeyer]

Quit tagging me for your insane ramblings.

Here's your quote.

I presume all of you escorts are trannies, Anna Summer, Alice, Manami, etc. until I've done some due diligence like reading forums, and scrutinizing pics
background check like your twitter, instagram, website, anything that might help

I do all of that before booking

I did Hana one time

but still not convinced

That's not "presuming." And for the record, saying "I presume you are a thief, until proven otherwise." Is accusing someone of being a fucking thief. Now I'm going to do something I should have done ages ago and added your crazy ass to my ignore list.

 

[chaztagster]

Is it misrepresentation to call yourself female if you're a trans-female? I'm not a lawyer but I think it varies from one legal system to another
Is it rape to misrepresent yourself when having sex with another person? Again, I am not a lawyer but I think it's rarely viewed as rape. I read about a case in Israel where a gentile lied about his religion to have a relationship with an orthodox Jewish woman who became pregnant. She successfully sued for rape but the judgment was considered quite odd by the standards of the legal system in my country. It would not be considered rape in my country.
These are interesting points to discuss. But calling out individuals and potentially putting them in harms way crosses a line imho.

 

[konbini guy]

Quit tagging me for your insane ramblings.

Here's your quote.



That's not "presuming." And for the record, saying "I presume you are a thief, until proven otherwise." Is accusing someone of being a fucking thief. Now I'm going to do something I should have done ages ago and added your crazy ass to my ignore list.

hahaha this dude is putting me on ignored list becuase he's been proven wrong. And last time I checked, they don't say "presumed thief" or presumed murderer. They say "presumed innocent"

what a fool