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Service and/or Provider's Name:
Jenny V and random WeChat Chinese girl

Country & City:
Orange County/Los Angeles

Date of Encounter:
Aug 2016

Contact Method:
Text/WeChat

Internet Link?:
http://www.cityvibe.com/orangecounty/Escorts/highly-reviewed-vietnamese-asian/1707360

Appointment Length & Costs:
$260/$0

Type/Location:
Incall/Driving randomly around Los Angeles

Language Notes:
English/Bad Chinese Translation

Details of the Encounter:
I was in LA recently to catch up with some friends and make my irregular pilgrimage to Pink's for a chili dog. And in a single day got bait and switched (left side of the slash above) and then hours later almost got taken in a WeChat iTunes card scam (right side of the slash above).

A little background: I've discussed CA K-Girl AAMPs previously. LA is notoriously difficult to set up appointments there if you aren't hobbying regularly in LA, and I just end up with blue balls after calling 20 girls.

I have 2 or 3 providers that I've known for a long time, 2 of them Japanese and one Vietnamese, and with exception of one of the JP girls, the others disappeared over time. Jenny V, the Vietnamese girl, popped up again recently after a year or two of being gone, so I wanted to see her and catch up and have some play time after something like 3 or 4 years since I saw her last. There's something about Viet spinners that just drives me crazy. A lot of Chinese providers I've seen are pretty mercenary, have really awful illusion of passion, and are really obvious about trying to get me to come quickly. The Viet women I've seen (small sample size of course) seem just as mercenary in some ways, but it's more like 'we both know why we're both here, but while you're here I'm going to fuck your brains out'. I'm not usually a multi-pop guy, but the first time I saw Jenny, her rule is 'as many pops as you can go'- she got me off twice relatively quickly and was working on number three when we ran out of time. Good memories.

This time, booking seemed about the same as usual, via text, and the complex that I was directed to was the same one. But it wasn't the same girl. She was a Thai girl named Linda. Granted, she wasn't bad looking. Decent body, and a relatively cute face. I'd been bait and switched before and still came out with a good session, so I decided to stay. Her face reminded me a lot of the JP AV star Asuka Hoshino, including the crooked teeth (. After getting a little more comfortable with her, she had this amazing GFE attitude. During playtime she had excellent illusion of passion, including really hot sex noises. She also tried to get me going for round two without having to request it (I usually only do with a longer session or I'm particularly randy).

If I wasn't so disappointed in not getting to see Jenny, this wouldn't have been a bad session. Anyway, don't reward the bait and switch. There's tons of other options out there.

Scam #2: I'd been playing with WeChat off and on while in the US, and trying to chat up some women, some of whom seem to be pros. The funny thing is I'd just go through the "Discover" section and message women that looked attractive. The goal is basically to be friendly without being pervy. Usually if you say something like 'hey, do you want to meet tonight?', if it's a pro they'll make a straight forward proposition, but I haven't had any real success.

Unfortunately for most (including me), this is almost always in Chinese. Luckily it seems like Google Translate does the job for the most part as long as I keep the sentences very simple. To the point where this girl that called me earlier was actually surprised that I didn't speak any Chinese.

Anyway, she (?) offered some ludicrous deal, like $200 for 3 hours. There was far too many red flags for this to be legit, but I kept myself 'safe' (no pictures, no real phone numbers, etc) and wanted to see where it went.

Turns out there's a worldwide scam going on where Chinese women will ask guys to buy iTunes cards, give them the codes, and then disappear into the wind. These and other scams were mentioned here and on other sites I read, so having the intel out there is really helpful. But why guys would fall for such a scam is beyond me, and I would have hopefully figured it out. I eventually told the girl that if she met me at the store I'd buy it for her, which she naturally refused. So I told her to have a good night. She then said something in Chinese that Google translated as 'Fuck Sucker', so I'm assuming that she wasn't happy to lose a mark.

I chalk it up to a learning experience- the first 'scam' was just a bait and switch, and I still had a pretty good time. the second, I didn't really lose anything other than time and maybe a little gas money. And in the mean time I've learned some of the better ways to use Google Translate, what some of the better terms to use, etc.

Pictures/Advertisement Accurate?:
Pictures were not accurate.

Final Thoughts:
Not Recommended.

Closing Comments:
Be safe out there.
 
Thanks for the information - the iTunes card thing has been and is still being used in various forms. That's not so surprising... but many people still fall for it.

Even those fake tax collector calls, I've seen some examples of the so-called 'tax collector' ask the victim to go buy an iTunes card and give the code to pay off their supposed tax debt.

As for WeChat -- I have this as well and I've noticed a few pictures on the 'Discover' feature that tie back to some of the pros that post on various sites like Backpage and the like. Most all Chinese of course, but you'll see a posting every now and then that seems to be pro-type.
 
Just FYI. cityvibe has been pretty good for me in LA. It's always been the pictured girl for me, maybe just a little photoshopped, but still mostly accurate.

Asian adds on backpage/craigslist/cityvibe are always 100% bait and switch, meaning those pictures were taken off modeling websites or something. Go in knowing that. If you want to see exactly what you're getting, strip clubs are your best bet, most of them do offer backroom specials, but be prepared to pay through the nose for those. There are tons of AMP's in garden grove, just look for the ones opened passed about 9pm, chances are there's some happy ending going on. i used to have a number for a k-girl place that didn't need references that was my usual stop, but the number doesn't work anymore sadly. The ones in the downtown LA area are going to be strict and expensive, mostly because of the recent crackdown on the korean party girl industry (forgot the name of it).

Haven't had any WeChat girls personally, but I've seen places saying that it can be good if you know what to look for, but like I said, almost all the asian places are not the girl pictured (usually, they're pretty decent though). Never pay more than $180 for an hour, most of them are one pop, no matter how much time is left over. Unless you're willing to shell out for the high end girls, GFE is pretty non-existent in my experience, most of the girls are extremely cold and hating their life for the most part. Mongering in LA is kind of depressing compared to Japan.
 
You would've been better off visiting a foot spa/massage establishment in one of the Asian districts like Chinatown or K-Town as in most cases there would be some extras offered.
 
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Haha- Apple has a support article on iTunes cards scams. Not exactly surprised that they don't mention 'paying for time with women' as part of their list of scams.
 
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Try out the scene in Eagle Rock, a bit north of LA. I do love me some Pinks though
 
Makes me wonder why exactly iTunes cards and not something like Amazon gift cards. You can't get a payout right?
 
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Not sure this is true if we also include non-Asian providers!
Most of the girls, even the Asian ones, provided a less than satisfactory experience to me. It always felt like "hurry up and cum so I can get out of here."

It's why I'm a huge supporter of legalization of prostitution. Shine more light on it, pass basic laws, make them fill out W-2's and you'd see more established locations, regular health check requirements, taxed, etc. Would cut down on human trafficking, scams and get more people who actually want to be there, rather than now where there's a good chance that Asian prostitute you got was forced to come to the US to pay off her Korean gambling debt or something.
 
Ah yes, the iTunes/Amazon gift card scam. Something I just recently learned about through my Twitter exploration!

Asian adds on backpage/craigslist/cityvibe are always 100% bait and switch, meaning those pictures were taken off modeling websites or something.
So very true in Toronto as well sad to say. Which was why I was so looking forward to a more authentic experience while in Tokyo. *sigh* Next time.
 
Sorry man about the US experience this time. I met a Hong Kong girl in San Diego a few months ago. Session was decent, but stoked the ego when she complained about the "little" guy and that it felt really good. :D
 
You're more likely to find Korean pros in LA than Japanese ones.
 
Hope to know where to find Japanese girls in Los Angeles?

There's the occasional JP escort out there, usually more high-end. There's a lot of Korean girls that advertise as JP, or will advertise as half-JP, and usually they worked in Japan for enough time to pick up some Japanese. Getting service from even the Korean Cityvibe girls is tough enough without references.
 
I have thought about getting verified with some of these agencies, but you either had to give your work information (Company and phone number) or one place asked me to text my driver's license...didn't want to provide either..
 
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I have thought about getting verified with some of these agencies, but you either had to give your work information (Company and phone number) or one place asked me to text my driver's license...didn't want to provide either..

Yeah, generally you need to find one that's 'newbie friendly' or someone that both posts on CityVibe and also Preferred 411, etc. It's tough to stay current with different places if you travel a lot. POs and PO phone numbers change all the time, so if you aren't regularly seeing girls you might be SOL.
 
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And this is why I elected to use Japan's services instead of in the US. Legality be damned, the services in the US are so sketchy, I'm not even sure going to Nevada would be worth it. We all seem to be too eager to scam everyone over here.
 
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Coincidentally, I'm sitting in my hotel room in LA right now, not quite 45 minutes after a fabulous provider has left. She's the third I've seen in the last 2 days (the part of the US I live in is very difficult for this hobby due to the local police agencies making "cracking down on sex crimes" a priority, I'll never understand how any sane person can consider consensual sex between two adults a crime, but I'm going off topic here.)

Every single interaction has kind of amped up a notch from the previous but none of them were asian (one was half french half indian so sort of asian I guess) and prices were certainly much higher than I experienced in Japan but they were all fantastic interactions. There is definitely quality to be had in L.A. but it's very difficult if your limiting your search to Asian providers. I'd love to post full reviews of my experiences but the ladies involved are all either trying to stay under the radar and/or have specifically requested that clients not leave reviews (more and more providers in the US are doing that).
 
I'd love to post full reviews of my experiences but the ladies involved are all either trying to stay under the radar and/or have specifically requested that clients not leave reviews (more and more providers in the US are doing that).
That is a shame. I'm sure we all have at least one good session we'd like to express our pride in, but can't for the same reasons you noted. :censored:
 
That is a shame. I'm sure we all have at least one good session we'd like to express our pride in, but can't for the same reasons you noted. :censored:
I'm not sure if I'm wanting to express my pride so much as wanting others to experience how wonderful spending time with these ladies can be.

One thing I have to say though, whether from pride or what, is that this last lady is very very giggly to start with, but she is the first woman I've ever met who goes into a complete laughing fit when she orgasms. And once that occurs it's almost like her entire vulva becomes ticklish. Touching it at all immediately afterwards just makes an ever harder laugh. It was so cool!
 
Coincidentally, I'm sitting in my hotel room in LA right now, not quite 45 minutes after a fabulous provider has left. She's the third I've seen in the last 2 days (the part of the US I live in is very difficult for this hobby due to the local police agencies making "cracking down on sex crimes" a priority, I'll never understand how any sane person can consider consensual sex between two adults a crime, but I'm going off topic here.)

Every single interaction has kind of amped up a notch from the previous but none of them were asian (one was half french half indian so sort of asian I guess) and prices were certainly much higher than I experienced in Japan but they were all fantastic interactions. There is definitely quality to be had in L.A. but it's very difficult if your limiting your search to Asian providers. I'd love to post full reviews of my experiences but the ladies involved are all either trying to stay under the radar and/or have specifically requested that clients not leave reviews (more and more providers in the US are doing that).

Wraith ..I am heading to LA in a few weeks...is there a website u can recommend? Not familiar the US scene and also worried about LE.
 
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What is the Korean Party Girl industry?

Just FYI. cityvibe has been pretty good for me in LA. It's always been the pictured girl for me, maybe just a little photoshopped, but still mostly accurate.

Asian adds on backpage/craigslist/cityvibe are always 100% bait and switch, meaning those pictures were taken off modeling websites or something. Go in knowing that. If you want to see exactly what you're getting, strip clubs are your best bet, most of them do offer backroom specials, but be prepared to pay through the nose for those. There are tons of AMP's in garden grove, just look for the ones opened passed about 9pm, chances are there's some happy ending going on. i used to have a number for a k-girl place that didn't need references that was my usual stop, but the number doesn't work anymore sadly. The ones in the downtown LA area are going to be strict and expensive, mostly because of the recent crackdown on the korean party girl industry (forgot the name of it).

Haven't had any WeChat girls personally, but I've seen places saying that it can be good if you know what to look for, but like I said, almost all the asian places are not the girl pictured (usually, they're pretty decent though). Never pay more than $180 for an hour, most of them are one pop, no matter how much time is left over. Unless you're willing to shell out for the high end girls, GFE is pretty non-existent in my experience, most of the girls are extremely cold and hating their life for the most part. Mongering in LA is kind of depressing compared to Japan.
 
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