What's the deal with Esthe

[PenFigher]

Man, it is epic. The night I had to hide all the knives and sharp objects in the house in the bedside drawer near my head was the night I cut my losses, left all my shit behind and walked out. She eventually stopped rocking up at my parents' place and creating new social media accounts to stalk me.

I am gonna learn from your experience and maybe not date a Chinese MP girl, then. It sounds like a real body damage situation waiting to happen. I am thinking about hitting up Oasis for the services and not to find a Wife. What are your impressions of the place as a Chinese speaker?

 

[Joshusan]

I am gonna learn from your experience and maybe not date a Chinese MP girl, then. It sounds like a real body damage situation waiting to happen. I am thinking about hitting up Oasis for the services and not to find a Wife. What are your impressions of the place as a Chinese speaker?

You might be confusing me with someone else. The only Chinese place I've hit up here was by accident, and that is Friend Girl (my review is pending), a delivery health agency.

I've only been 3 weeks in Tokyo but I intend to remain permanently. I do miss the Chinese girls from back home with big tits and nipples like a bricklayer's thumb, so any suggestions are very welcome.

As for the relationship, it depends how emotionally tough you are. I thought I was tough enough, but I was so wrong. Their mental health becomes your mental health.

If you think you can hack it give it a go. I was getting sex 3-4 times a day (everytime we sat down on the couch after going out she wanted it) and she was cooking for me 3 meals a day. And on working lady money, we were having lobster and crab hotpot on a regular basis. But the emotional distress is tremendous.

I'll give you my old boy's advice:

1. Treat it like a piece of meat.

2. Don't fall in love.

3. Protect your capital.

Good luck.

 

[PenFigher]

You might be confusing me with someone else. The only Chinese place I've hit up here was by accident, and that is Friend Girl (my review is pending), a delivery health agency.

I've only been 3 weeks in Tokyo but I intend to remain permanently. I do miss the Chinese girls from back home with big tits and nipples like a bricklayer's thumb, so any suggestions are very welcome.

As for the relationship, it depends how emotionally tough you are. I thought I was tough enough, but I was so wrong. Their mental health becomes your mental health.

If you think you can hack it give it a go. I was getting sex 3-4 times a day (everytime we sat down on the couch after going out she wanted it) and she was cooking for me 3 meals a day. And on working lady money, we were having lobster and crab hotpot on a regular basis. But the emotional distress is tremendous.

I'll give you my old boy's advice:

1. Treat it like a piece of meat.

2. Don't fall in love.

3. Protect your capital.

Good luck.

Sorry I thought you might have tried Oasis, I was wondering because I was kinda curious to try (at 10k It could be an exploration situation without too much regret. Let me try it out and see .


Edit: as pointed out after I posted this, this isn’t an esthe, it’s a FS in Gotanda.

 

[Joshusan]

Sorry I thought you might have tried Oasis, I was wondering because I was kinda curious to try (at 10k It could be an exploration situation without too much regret. Let me try it out and see .

10k is very affordable hey. It could be a regular stop when I knock off work haha.

 

[Luchuck11]

So one of my issues is EXACTLY as you have described. I got to a new spot, speak Mandarin, the spot is nice, I enjoy myself. Then I go back and I end in weird relationship conversations. I have a review on Mandala in for approval where the service was fantastic the first time. I go back to this cute girl who gave me great service, and everything goes well (I mean really well) and then she starts talking about how many kids she wants, that they would look so good if they were tall with big eyes and lighter hair, etc. It was weird and that is why I’m never returning to that place again.

I haven’t tried Oasis yet, but if what you are telling me is correct l, I am not sure I want to. I used to just randomly look for Asian spas, but someone recommended https://www.esthe-ranking.jp/ and that has been a bit of a game changer when looking for the Asian Esthe near me. Sadly, I haven’t found a Chinese home and I just keep doing the rounds, sucking Chinese titties and never finding a regular pair I can return to.

I'm sorry to hear that I'm not the only one dealing with this but also glad that someone else can relate. It definitely ruins the whole experience. One of the main reason we go to these is for NSA sex so definitely not fun when these girls are trying to add your WeChat or LINE and telling you not to see other girls after two sessions with them.

Oasis Gotanda has a lot of pretty girls and most of them aren't like that but one or two of them have done that with me so definitely not trying to do commitment Russian roulette when I'm horny

Thanks for the rec tho, I'll definitely check them out

 

[Luchuck11]

Man, it is epic. The night I had to hide all the knives and sharp objects in the house in the bedside drawer near my head was the night I cut my losses, left all my shit behind and walked out. She eventually stopped rocking up at my parents' place and creating new social media accounts to stalk me.

Wow. I'm glad you're out of that man, no one deserves that shit

 

[PenFigher]

I'm sorry to hear that I'm not the only one dealing with this but also glad that someone else can relate. It definitely ruins the whole experience. One of the main reason we go to these is for NSA sex so definitely not fun when these girls are trying to add your WeChat or LINE and telling you not to see other girls after two sessions with them.

Oasis Gotanda has a lot of pretty girls and most of them aren't like that but one or two of them have done that with me so definitely not trying to Russian roulette when I'm horny

Thanks for the rec tho, I'll definitely check them out

Well then, I am about to try Oasis out. Suggestions? Are you a regular with any of the girls?

 

[MikeH]

Well then, I am about to try Oasis out. Suggestions? Are you a regular with any of the girls?

Mimi is good fun. But Oasis is not Este.

 

[PenFigher]

Mimi is good fun. But Oasis is not Este.

I know, the conversation just veered off to something else. It’s a whole different service. I edited my post to mention it.

 

[Gorffy]

The upside of the game is that the therapists can range to the very very hot indeed.

To be honest this is probably the main reason I keep going back to Japanese men's esute. At my former favorite shop (the now closed Akihabara Aroma Eight) I managed to meet a recently retired Super GT race queen and a currently working fashion model in back to back sessions. Service was very good and I shimei'd the race queen several times after. Also have met several therapists outside the shop (real name used, not a for-pay situation) over the years. I'm a bit of an esute fan

 

[Mewtwo2021]

So by following suggested profiles on Twitter I've come to know of all these different working ladies in Tokyo and their respective shops. Some of these include T+, Aroma Pierce, Clarice, Bijo Spa, etc.

These shops style themselves as "esthe" shops and I understand the main service is massage. On their respective websites they always have some sort of fine print that says no touching the therapist, no sexual services, you must wear paper shorts throughout the service etc.

What really goes on? Are these huge breasted women really gonna massage me for 90 mins to loosen up the massive knot in my shoulder and say bye?

I ask because these days all I want do is suck big tiddies and get a handjob. Delivery health is wasted on me because the price is not sustainable for more than one booking per week and I can't come with a rubber on anyway. At under ¥20k for 90 mins - and even factoring in a happy ending fee - that is a price that I could afford several times a week and forget the feeling of Mrs Palmer and her five daughters.

Keen to hear your experiences.

Back when I was still a rookie in this industry I went to Japanese men's esthe thinking I was going to at least a happy ending. The girl I had was hotter than any soapland girl or Thai MP Therapist. It was at some place in Shibuya. It was years ago. I learned after I paid that Sexual services were strictly forbidden. The Therapist told me I could rub her leg but that's it. I got an huge erection. I politely asked she could do a HE, but she replied with a firm NO! I asked if I could relieve myself because her body made me so horny but I still got a firm NO. I never had such horrible blue-balls in my life. I realized that day that when they say NO SEXUAL SERVICES, they mean it.

 

[PenFigher]

Mimi is good fun. But Oasis is not Este.

I went, Mimi wasn’t available

Back when I was still a rookie in this industry I went to Japanese men's esthe thinking I was going to at least a happy ending. The girl I had was hotter than any soapland girl or Thai MP Therapist. It was at some place in Shibuya. It was years ago. I learned after I paid that Sexual services were strictly forbidden. The Therapist told me I could rub her leg but that's it. I got an huge erection. I politely asked she could do a HE, but she replied with a firm NO! I asked if I could relieve myself because her body made me so horny but I still got a firm NO. I never had such horrible blue-balls in my life. I realized that day that when they say NO SEXUAL SERVICES, they mean it.

Wow that sounds super disappointing, that would have stopped me from going to men’s esthe right then and there if it happened to me.

 

[Mewtwo2021]

I went, Mimi wasn’t available


Wow that sounds super disappointing, that would have stopped me from going to men’s esthe right then and there if it happened to me.

Yeah, They didn't tell me until after I paid. After I left, I remember thinking “Why would any man knowingly spend 20,000¥ on a massage from a big-tittied woman only to leave blue-balled.” later I checked the website and found in very small text that sexual services are forbidden.

 

[Joshusan]

Yeah, They didn't tell me until after I paid. After I left, I remember thinking “Why would any man knowingly spend 20,000¥ on a massage from a big-tittied woman only to leave blue-balled.” later I checked the website and found in very small text that sexual services are forbidden.

That's exactly what happened to me two days ago. I went ahead and wrote a review on it anyway, just to forewarn others. She was rubbing her tits all over me, playing with my ass (which is unfair because I have a huge firm ass, it's my best feature) yet I was not allowed to touch her anywhere. She was frequently reaching down my jocks and stroking my dick. I wasn't impolite at any point and retained composure even saying the final goodbye at the door, but the bus ride home was in peak traffic - we were crawling home and my nuts were a red hot flame of agony.

 

[PenFigher]

Yeah, They didn't tell me until after I paid. After I left, I remember thinking “Why would any man knowingly spend 20,000¥ on a massage from a big-tittied woman only to leave blue-balled.” later I checked the website and found in very small text that sexual services are forbidden.

The problem is that some places say that and don’t mean it. I just went to a place that posted that sexual services are forbidden. So I got the very unsexual service of AF after negotiating with the Esthe lady. I guess anal isn’t a sexual service.

 

[just4fun]

The problem is that some places say that and don’t mean it. I just went to a place that posted that sexual services are forbidden. So I got the very unsexual service of AF after negotiating with the Esthe lady. I guess anal isn’t a sexual service.

Big strap-on?

 

[Mewtwo2021]

I think

That's exactly what happened to me two days ago. I went ahead and wrote a review on it anyway, just to forewarn others. She was rubbing her tits all over me, playing with my ass (which is unfair because I have a huge firm ass, it's my best feature) yet I was not allowed to touch her anywhere. She was frequently reaching down my jocks and stroking my dick. I wasn't impolite at any point and retained composure even saying the final goodbye at the door, but the bus ride home was in peak traffic - we were crawling home and my nuts were a red hot flame of agony.

I understand your pain. Think of how much money those places must make from people thinking they will receive some form of sexual service, only to leave disappointed.

 

[CharlieSimms]

The Japanese clientele anyway are aware of the game. It is a game after all. If it is not a game you want to play, there are many other options. It’s nonsensical to complain about what the game is.

 

[PenFigher]

That's exactly what happened to me two days ago. I went ahead and wrote a review on it anyway, just to forewarn others. She was rubbing her tits all over me, playing with my ass (which is unfair because I have a huge firm ass, it's my best feature) yet I was not allowed to touch her anywhere. She was frequently reaching down my jocks and stroking my dick. I wasn't impolite at any point and retained composure even saying the final goodbye at the door, but the bus ride home was in peak traffic - we were crawling home and my nuts were a red hot flame of agony.

Big strap-on?

The biggest. To be fair, it was an expensive strap-on.

 

[just4fun]

The biggest. To be fair, it was an expensive strap-on.

Holy shit!!! You had to buy the strap-on too? You got fucked twice

 

[PenFigher]

The biggest.

Holy shit!!! You had to buy the strap-on too? You got fucked twice

No I just wanted to buy it to bring home.

 

[just4fun]

No I just wanted to buy it to bring home.

A memory stick.....oops, is that a dad joke?

 

[PenFigher]

A memory stick.....oops, is that a dad joke?

No, in full context, it was actually pretty good.

 

[Joshusan]

I think

I understand your pain. Think of how much money those places must make from people thinking they will receive some form of sexual service, only to leave disappointed.

I apologise that I'm gonna stereotype a bit here, but I think this is an Asian man's game. And what I mean by that is that I've noticed Asian dudes in a p4p context, especially Chinese, take a certain pleasure in just chucking money at women. So in this men's esthe business you probably visit the same WL 10 times and behave well each time and then you start unlocking the extras.

This is gonna take a great deal of effort and oscar-nominee worthy acting from me because every time I'm alone with one of these fine ladies I must be looking at them like I want to give them an enema with my tongue. I might change up the shop and try again with a different WL and pretend I'm not a massive pervert and just want a relaxing massage.

I'll expand on my previous comment - I don't want to upset anyone. I've been in Phnom Penh where I've paid high class escorts at the casino $150 USD for overnight, and these same girls are getting $500-$600 USD from Chinese customers, not even including the drinks, which they charge up to $50 sometimes.

 

[Qong02]

If you’re Canadian we might have too much in common. My favorite thing to do is call a place ahead in Mandarin, set up an appointment without telling them I am a 老外, and then showing up. The reactions are priceless.

I would love to go with you to just see this… but then again they might think I set it up initially instead lol