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So I've been a lurker here for a long time, decided to finally pull through and submit some reviews as I have time.
I travel from my country to Japan a lot for business, one might say I spend about half the year or more here. It was only in the last year that I worked up the nerve (or feeling that itch strong enough) to start reading reviews and attempting Pay4Play. Thanks to many informative threads here, I had a great fun, safe time.
I'm particularly in it for pink salons/BJ bars. Simple, effective, quick, and I can go back to concentrating on work now that the beast is tamed somewhat. I've done more, but for me the BJ bars have the best cost/performance ratio. I'm always eagerly waiting to hear stories of other places that allow foreigners, but it seems that there are only about 4 in Tokyo (3 if you count Dio/Emotion as one blob); so if folks know of more out there, please start posting!
Anyway, since TAG has helped me so much, I figured I'd return the favor to other potential lurkers (and would encourage more to share their stories), by an effective comparison of the few places I've been to; namely JanJan and Happy Hinomaru. This isn't going to be a rundown of each event and rating the girl/experience, but a general comparison of the two Big Names for foreigner-allowed BJ Bars in Tokyo.
After reading a ton about the few bars that allow foreigners (I'm almost fluent, but white, so I can't get in the door at most places), I decided to try JanJan in mid 2014. Had a great time. I went back a few times (each time a solid experience). Then, after hearing enough about Hinomaru, I decided to give that one a shot. Abysmal experience pushed me back to JanJan without looking back.
Here's the basics:
They have a website now, which they didn't before. Haven't been there since I noticed that: http://jan2-sugamo.com/
Been to JanJan about 6 times in the Summer/Fall/Winter of 2014. Never asked for names, but I had a wide range of women (mostly older), most of the cast. I always went in the evening, just because that's when I had been free, so I spent 4000 each time. Here's the basics, again for those lurkers like me who were on the edge:
Leave Sugamo station, head south. That's practically it.
Okay, as you head down the street, the tout on the right will wave you over. He'll check down the stairs to make sure there's no line or anyone coming up, and will send you down. Once you're at the bottom, you'll encounter older lady or older gentleman. Neither will assume you speak Japanese, so will silently make the gesture for "4" (at night; before 7 it's "3"). They'll announce you and walk you over to a high-backed booth about a meter wide (I'm 180, and the chair back covers up to and over my shoulders). The seats are a little hard, but whatever. You'll be brought some tea, and will wait about 2-5 minutes for an escort to arrive.
Now, I must again mention I've only attended at nights, from 7:30 onwards, mostly on weekdays. I have never been there in the afternoon or on weekends. So while there are about 12 booths plus some extra areas (three across, four deep, plus what looks to be a "VIP area" of sorts), at the busiest there were maybe three to four others there with me. I'd like to hear the experiences of others who went at other times, because it seems like there's a lot of prep taken to make sure people don't bump into each other or that the lines don't form too long, but I've never seen this club full (though it might have had "better days").
The club is a bit smoky, not as bad as a Shinbashi salaryman izakaya, but it does linger. The wallpaper is kinda faded and... well, it's not Dirty, but it's not marble floors and sparkling walls either. The only thing that kinda sets me on edge is the music: I love techno, but this is shitty-grade Euro Beat Mix like straight outta 1998. It does well to mask the noises that may happen, but I wish they had some variety. Every time I came (6 times) it was the same mix, over and over. Alas.
The lady (most in their 30s or 40s; I've never had anyone hot, but I've never had anyone ugly either. IMO, as long as they're of normalish weight and not totally hideous, I'm cool with appearance and age (30s-50s) as long as their technique is solid) will then arrive and make small talk. "Are you on your way from work? "Otsukaresama-deshita", "Nihongo ojouzu" (me: attempt to take the compliment as is and not roll eyes) etc; after about 30 seconds you'll get a "Yoroshiku onegaishimasu", a bow, and a "please take your pants off". I tend to drop them all the way down, step out of one leg, but then slip that leg into a shoe because the ground is basically Movie Theater quality, yech. The cleaning and check begins with a moist towel. The women usually show up wearing a dress shirt and T-back, or else a strapless one-piece dress. They'll take off the shirt and drop the T-back, or else lower their dress to their midriff. You're allowed to use fingers: I've never had an incident where I wasn't allowed to, but some women may be sensitive or having their period; so if the panties are off, fair game; I also don't tend to do DATY since it's not my bag, though I have read reports of others who have stretched out in the booth and have gone full 69. They lube themselves up so that fingers slide right in. Though I do so sparingly, as I've had experiences where I definitely felt the need to scrub my hands afterwards. No other GFE or play, not that I'd want it mind...
The main event begins. I notice that most women will have their own variations on the techniques, but it's mostly a no-hands BBJ, depending on the woman there will be very light touching, and many have done DT. Lots of tongue. This lasts for as long as You Last. Each of the 4-5 women I've experienced there do not hurry the process up or push you along, they definitely take their time. They're professionals, and do what they do well. When the time Comes, they'll make sure to get every drop, and will gracefully spit it out into another towel. Then 1-2 more towels will be used to clean you up. They'll excuse themselves, and this is where you suit back up and play with your phone for a few minutes while they wash up, gargle, etc. Then they'll escort you out, and the tout does a low bow. Nice touch.
Something interesting to note: I saw a review of Hinomaru vs JanJan where they said they were suspicious of JanJan because at Hinomaru they used an alcohol/medical wipe to wipe down the area before starting, and at JanJan they only used moist towels. That may be the case, but these girls are gargling industrial strength Something before (and after) going to town.
The side effect of this is that, every time I've been there, for the next day and for about a week or so, I notice a bit of stinging/numbness in the head. Basically, as if I dipped my dick in listerine, because that's basically what happened. The first time I went I kinda freaked out, got tested etc, then realized it happened each time I went back (the first time was the worst, simply because my nervous conscience was looking for an excuse to scream "STDs!!" and stop. But no, it was just the antiseptic gargle they were using). So there's that.
Otherwise, again the place itself is a bit of a dive, or at least has seen better days. The 4-5 women I've been with were nothing to brag about (all in their late 30s or 40s, perhaps late 40s as well) , but they were all bringing their A Game: Extremely skilled, extremely professional, variations on the same "no-hands" technique (some would use fingernails, another would massage the balls, another would stroke super-light when they could tell you were about to blow, etc). For those who want Hot Girls above technique, this isn't the place for you.
So: JanJan: Seedy establishment, women are "okay" if you can dig older women, but the technique/skill is incredible or at least pretty impressive with all of them. Price can't be beat. Also about 120 seconds from the station.
Okay, that was longer than I thought. Will come back later for the Hinomaru followup post in this same thread.
JM
I travel from my country to Japan a lot for business, one might say I spend about half the year or more here. It was only in the last year that I worked up the nerve (or feeling that itch strong enough) to start reading reviews and attempting Pay4Play. Thanks to many informative threads here, I had a great fun, safe time.
I'm particularly in it for pink salons/BJ bars. Simple, effective, quick, and I can go back to concentrating on work now that the beast is tamed somewhat. I've done more, but for me the BJ bars have the best cost/performance ratio. I'm always eagerly waiting to hear stories of other places that allow foreigners, but it seems that there are only about 4 in Tokyo (3 if you count Dio/Emotion as one blob); so if folks know of more out there, please start posting!
Anyway, since TAG has helped me so much, I figured I'd return the favor to other potential lurkers (and would encourage more to share their stories), by an effective comparison of the few places I've been to; namely JanJan and Happy Hinomaru. This isn't going to be a rundown of each event and rating the girl/experience, but a general comparison of the two Big Names for foreigner-allowed BJ Bars in Tokyo.
After reading a ton about the few bars that allow foreigners (I'm almost fluent, but white, so I can't get in the door at most places), I decided to try JanJan in mid 2014. Had a great time. I went back a few times (each time a solid experience). Then, after hearing enough about Hinomaru, I decided to give that one a shot. Abysmal experience pushed me back to JanJan without looking back.
Here's the basics:
They have a website now, which they didn't before. Haven't been there since I noticed that: http://jan2-sugamo.com/
Been to JanJan about 6 times in the Summer/Fall/Winter of 2014. Never asked for names, but I had a wide range of women (mostly older), most of the cast. I always went in the evening, just because that's when I had been free, so I spent 4000 each time. Here's the basics, again for those lurkers like me who were on the edge:
Leave Sugamo station, head south. That's practically it.
Okay, as you head down the street, the tout on the right will wave you over. He'll check down the stairs to make sure there's no line or anyone coming up, and will send you down. Once you're at the bottom, you'll encounter older lady or older gentleman. Neither will assume you speak Japanese, so will silently make the gesture for "4" (at night; before 7 it's "3"). They'll announce you and walk you over to a high-backed booth about a meter wide (I'm 180, and the chair back covers up to and over my shoulders). The seats are a little hard, but whatever. You'll be brought some tea, and will wait about 2-5 minutes for an escort to arrive.
Now, I must again mention I've only attended at nights, from 7:30 onwards, mostly on weekdays. I have never been there in the afternoon or on weekends. So while there are about 12 booths plus some extra areas (three across, four deep, plus what looks to be a "VIP area" of sorts), at the busiest there were maybe three to four others there with me. I'd like to hear the experiences of others who went at other times, because it seems like there's a lot of prep taken to make sure people don't bump into each other or that the lines don't form too long, but I've never seen this club full (though it might have had "better days").
The club is a bit smoky, not as bad as a Shinbashi salaryman izakaya, but it does linger. The wallpaper is kinda faded and... well, it's not Dirty, but it's not marble floors and sparkling walls either. The only thing that kinda sets me on edge is the music: I love techno, but this is shitty-grade Euro Beat Mix like straight outta 1998. It does well to mask the noises that may happen, but I wish they had some variety. Every time I came (6 times) it was the same mix, over and over. Alas.
The lady (most in their 30s or 40s; I've never had anyone hot, but I've never had anyone ugly either. IMO, as long as they're of normalish weight and not totally hideous, I'm cool with appearance and age (30s-50s) as long as their technique is solid) will then arrive and make small talk. "Are you on your way from work? "Otsukaresama-deshita", "Nihongo ojouzu" (me: attempt to take the compliment as is and not roll eyes) etc; after about 30 seconds you'll get a "Yoroshiku onegaishimasu", a bow, and a "please take your pants off". I tend to drop them all the way down, step out of one leg, but then slip that leg into a shoe because the ground is basically Movie Theater quality, yech. The cleaning and check begins with a moist towel. The women usually show up wearing a dress shirt and T-back, or else a strapless one-piece dress. They'll take off the shirt and drop the T-back, or else lower their dress to their midriff. You're allowed to use fingers: I've never had an incident where I wasn't allowed to, but some women may be sensitive or having their period; so if the panties are off, fair game; I also don't tend to do DATY since it's not my bag, though I have read reports of others who have stretched out in the booth and have gone full 69. They lube themselves up so that fingers slide right in. Though I do so sparingly, as I've had experiences where I definitely felt the need to scrub my hands afterwards. No other GFE or play, not that I'd want it mind...
The main event begins. I notice that most women will have their own variations on the techniques, but it's mostly a no-hands BBJ, depending on the woman there will be very light touching, and many have done DT. Lots of tongue. This lasts for as long as You Last. Each of the 4-5 women I've experienced there do not hurry the process up or push you along, they definitely take their time. They're professionals, and do what they do well. When the time Comes, they'll make sure to get every drop, and will gracefully spit it out into another towel. Then 1-2 more towels will be used to clean you up. They'll excuse themselves, and this is where you suit back up and play with your phone for a few minutes while they wash up, gargle, etc. Then they'll escort you out, and the tout does a low bow. Nice touch.
Something interesting to note: I saw a review of Hinomaru vs JanJan where they said they were suspicious of JanJan because at Hinomaru they used an alcohol/medical wipe to wipe down the area before starting, and at JanJan they only used moist towels. That may be the case, but these girls are gargling industrial strength Something before (and after) going to town.
The side effect of this is that, every time I've been there, for the next day and for about a week or so, I notice a bit of stinging/numbness in the head. Basically, as if I dipped my dick in listerine, because that's basically what happened. The first time I went I kinda freaked out, got tested etc, then realized it happened each time I went back (the first time was the worst, simply because my nervous conscience was looking for an excuse to scream "STDs!!" and stop. But no, it was just the antiseptic gargle they were using). So there's that.
Otherwise, again the place itself is a bit of a dive, or at least has seen better days. The 4-5 women I've been with were nothing to brag about (all in their late 30s or 40s, perhaps late 40s as well) , but they were all bringing their A Game: Extremely skilled, extremely professional, variations on the same "no-hands" technique (some would use fingernails, another would massage the balls, another would stroke super-light when they could tell you were about to blow, etc). For those who want Hot Girls above technique, this isn't the place for you.
So: JanJan: Seedy establishment, women are "okay" if you can dig older women, but the technique/skill is incredible or at least pretty impressive with all of them. Price can't be beat. Also about 120 seconds from the station.
Okay, that was longer than I thought. Will come back later for the Hinomaru followup post in this same thread.
JM