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One Pop

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So, I've been p4ping a lot over the past 10 months or so and have had the time of my life. I'd like to thank everyone for their reviews and posts that have helped me have such a great time. I have learned so much about my self as a person and what I like sexually. But one thing that I haven't learned is how to budget very well. Recently I was also hit with some unexpected health problems and upcoming surgeries to pay for and now my bank account is draining fast. I do have a full time job that makes this a little difficult and I don't want my family to find out about my current financial situation.

So, I'd like some ideas for side jobs, gigs, online ways to make money, any suggestion would be much appreciated. (My current schedule would allow me to do extra work in the evenings during weekdays and every now and then on the weekends.)

I'd also appreciate any advice on ways to save money and any tips on how to fit p4ping into my budget more effectively.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

P.S. I'm willing to give back advice as well. If anyone has any questions about Yoshiwara Soaplands I can help.
I have a lot of experience (I'm nearing 40 visits :)) and would be happy to let you know what I know.

Cheers,
One Pop
 
I've been wrestling with this for the last five years. My best advice is to focus on your budgeting.

Maybe you should look into alternatives to p4p?
Thanks Doc. Yeah, I think budgeting better is key. I think I can handle that by cutting out P4P for now and cutting back on everyday spending. As well as picking up a little extra side work to supplement my income for now.

What kind of alternative methods did you have in mind? I can think of PUA and finding a sex friend. I don't really know where to start looking. I'd love to keep my hobby going by spending little to no money.
 
Look for gold jeweries that you can sell to Daikokuya 大黒屋. If it's18K gold you have from the past, can be worth sell. I invest in gold jeweries, the more 18K weighs, the more profitable. I think you still can sell out on merucari,
for well known brand goods, for pretty good deal.
or yahoo auction. But, you got to prepare taking photos, wrapping and such.

Just not visit soapies for a month or two, you can easily save money.

It's funny I say this, as a provider, but I don't want guyz to financially burden, overy consume in escort, soapland, etc. when not financially truely available. It's so bubbly hobby, and not fun to drain out your money.

Good luck.
 
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Becoming a gigolo?
(Hey you said you have experience in P4P! ... :)).
Seriously, I don't know but if you have health issues, a family to care for and a dwindling bank account then yes, first thing to do is to stop the hobby for a while.
For P4P I always make sure I spend only what I can afford to waste and often it was indeed wasted.
I don't know what you are good at but obviously you know Yoshiwara well and maybe can be some kind of "sex tourists guide" there, if you speak decent Japanese? I've been in Japan many years and still find mongering daunting sometimes , things are just so different here, so a guide who could bridge the cultures so to speak and help visitors have a smooth experience could make money, I suppose.
 
Also an easy one : if you have a car, sell it.
Owning a car in Tokyo is a luxury one can easily live without (not much because of the car itself but the parking costs, insurance , tax, shaken etc)
 
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In my case, instead of side jobs, I focus on my primary job. Especially with health problems it's difficult to take on more. Review your career and think about whether you could change jobs etc.
I second that. and not only you may make more money at the next firm , you can also unlock and cash in the retirement pension amount that your previous firm may have provisioned for you (check if there is such system).
 
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The easiest way to make some extra cash is to look through your belongings and sell off items you don't use on Craiglist, eBay or Mercari. You'd be surprised how one junk item can be of value to someone else out there.
@macdaddymeister , thanks for the idea. I've been successful with this in the past and plan to try more of it soon.
 
Look for gold jeweries that you can sell to Daikokuya 大黒屋. If it's18K gold you have from the past, can be worth sell. I invest in gold jeweries, the more 18K weighs, the more profitable. I think you still can sell out on merucari,
for well known brand goods, for pretty good deal.
or yahoo auction. But, you got to prepare taking photos, wrapping and such.

Just not visit sopies for a month or two, you can easily save money.

It's funny I say this, as a provider, but I don't want guyz to financially burden, overy consume in escort, soapland, etc. when not financially available. It's so bubbly hobby, and not fun to drain out your money.

Good luck.
@Yuriko , thanks for the tip. I don't think I have much gold jewelry lying around, but it is a great idea. I'll look around and see what I can come up with.
 
Becoming a gigolo?
(Hey you said you have experience in P4P! ... :)).
Seriously, I don't know but if you have health issues, a family to care for and a dwindling bank account then yes, first thing to do is to stop the hobby for a while.
For P4P I always make sure I spend only what I can afford to waste and often it was indeed wasted.
I don't know what you are good at but obviously you know Yoshiwara well and maybe can be some kind of "sex tourists guide" there, if you speak decent Japanese? I've been in Japan many years and still find mongering daunting sometimes , things are just so different here, so a guide who could bridge the cultures so to speak and help visitors have a smooth experience could make money, I suppose.
@Frenchy, I think you may have something with the Gigolo idea! It would solve both my problems, I would make money and feed my hobby! I also really like your outside the box thinking with your 'P4P guide' idea. Now, how to market myself as a Yoshiwara Soapland sex guide/ consultant.
 
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@Frenchy, I think you may have something with the Gigolo idea! It would solve both my problems, I would make money and feed my hobby! I also really like your outside the box thinking with your 'P4P guide' idea. Now, how to market myself as a Yoshiwara Soapland sex guide/ consultant.
Maybe start with a simple ad here!
Also creating a blog with your past experiences and a "if you need a guide" part in the end. Then the thing is to get it high-enough in Google search results , I'm not expert in that but maybe others are. Good luck!
Hey I may even buy your service, never been to Yoshiwara myself (if it's reasonably priced of course! ;))
 
I don't know how good your Japanese is but some guys make a great buck as freelance translators.
Also yes, if your Japanese is decent and you know a lot about fuzoku, you can help foreigners make bookings and stuff for a fee, there are quite some requests for that on TAG.
 
What percentage of your income do you currently spend on P4P? Also, do you absolutely need vaginal intercourse?
@Guuu, my biggest problem was over spending in the first place. I've had months where I spent as much as 40% of my income on P4P. On average though, I would say I've been spending about 20~25% every month for play.

I do prefer vaginal intercourse, but I have I been able to fulfill my cravings with cheaper options like pinsaro and HE massages.

My logic always gets me though. I find myself telling myself I'll budget ¥8,000~¥10,000 for a HE massage. Then I think, well I can get FS for 40 minutes at Cream Lemon for ¥12,000. So I go to CL and they don't happen to have anyone available at the time, so I end up at another shop spending over ¥20,000..... This sort of thing has happened to me often.
 
I don't know how good your Japanese is but some guys make a great buck as freelance translators.
Also yes, if your Japanese is decent and you know a lot about fuzoku, you can help foreigners make bookings and stuff for a fee, there are quite some requests for that on TAG.
Thanks @User#8628 , my Japanese isn't good enough to translate. My Speaking and listening Japanese skills are at an intermediate level, but my reading and writing are below average. I know the routine at Soaplands in Yoshiwara and have enough language skills to communicate effectively in those situations. I do believe I could provide insider consulting and be a personal guide to show clients around and help someone enter a shop.
 
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Thanks @User#8628 , my Japanese isn't good enough to translate. My Speaking and listening Japanese skills are at an intermediate level, but my reading and writing are below average. I know the routine at Soaplands in Yoshiwara and have enough language skills to communicate effectively in those situations. I do believe I could provide insider consulting and be a personal guide to show clients around and help someone enter a shop.
Well, you could always make a clasified ad here on TAG to advertise that service if you're really interested in doing so.
 
@Guuu, my biggest problem was over spending in the first place. I've had months where I spent as much as 40% of my income on P4P. On average though, I would say I've been spending about 20~25% every month for play.

I do prefer vaginal intercourse, but I have I been able to fulfill my cravings with cheaper options like pinsaro and HE massages.

My logic always gets me though. I find myself telling myself I'll budget ¥8,000~¥10,000 for a HE massage. Then I think, well I can get FS for 40 minutes at Cream Lemon for ¥12,000. So I go to CL and they don't happen to have anyone available at the time, so I end up at another shop spending over ¥20,000..... This sort of thing has happened to me often.

That sounds like a dangerous addiction...
no lady , however good they may be, is worth spending 40% of your income , sorry. Especially if you have a family. Make some kind of commitment to yourself : put the money you can afford (and only that) at the beginning of the month in an envelop and when it's empty then wait for the following month. Too bad if you spent it just on one FS shot, maybe next time you will go for two BJs instead.
Sorry I sound patronizing but I think maybe this website may also be a bit toxic for you (I know it was for me until I decided to get a grip on my spending). The more you read about other dudes'experiences (especially all the "she's amazing and it was the best sex of my life" BS) the more you want it too.
Just my 2 cts, maybe I'm completely wrong
 
Can't believe I just liked one of @Frenchy 's posts...but I agree with what he says.

Good luck @One Pop

I know if I lived in Japan...I would be broke and not be able to stay married. ...

I salute you guys who can do both.... then again from what I have read about marrying Japanese women....
 
That sounds like a dangerous addiction...
no lady , however good they may be, is worth spending 40% of your income , sorry. Especially if you have a family. Make some kind of commitment to yourself : put the money you can afford (and only that) at the beginning of the month in an envelop and when it's empty then wait for the following month. Too bad if you spent it just on one FS shot, maybe next time you will go for two BJs instead.
Sorry I sound patronizing but I think maybe this website may also be a bit toxic for you (I know it was for me until I decided to get a grip on my spending). The more you read about other dudes'experiences (especially all the "she's amazing and it was the best sex of my life" BS) the more you want it too.
Just my 2 cts, maybe I'm completely wrong
You totally hit the nail on the head, it is addicting and I'm wanting to work on it. I spent too much and Now I have to work my way back. I appreciate your comments and I am glad to hear that others have dealt with a similar issue too. Thank you