Soap land advice for first sexual experience

[Speednr1]

Hi,

I have been a member here for some while, haven’t posted much on this great forum but now the time has come. This is going to have some length so bear with me…

I’m going to turn 31 this December and I am still a virgin… For the last 10-15 years or so I have been thinking that I will eventually have my first sexual encounter with my future girlfriend in a relationship… But time has passed and it hasn’t simple turned out that way. The thought of instead having a first sexual encounter in i.e. a soap land or similar has occurred to me several times throughout the years since I have a huge interest for Japan. I’ve been to Japan before but then I was too much of a coward to visit anything erotic, but I will be going to Tokyo from the end of December be there through the first week of January and this time I’m planning to visit a soap land to have my first sexual experience.

Since I have absolutely no experience from visiting soap lands I have been reading through posts and reviews here and have a few places in Yoshiwara I’m thinking about… Like Make-up, Club Yume, Y-Queen, Rothenburg and also Landmark Tower since it seems Mai Hanano/Kuroki is working there (even though I’ve read it’s hard to book a time with her and it’s only for members and Japanese).

When it comes to preference of girl I prefer girls a bit more on the slender side rather than on the chubby. When it comes to age I don’t really mind if she’s older than me, 30+ is no issue, in fact I think many women get sexier when above 30. I come from northern Europe and know basic Japanese, written and spoken, I think I could manage a place where no one speaks any English, even though if the girl can speak a few words of English it would probably make the conversation a little easier.

If price could be kept at around 100 000 yen it would be nice, but a bit above that is okay too, I think it’s more important to get a good experience. I’ve been thinking about contacting the place early so that both I and them can plan ahead.

So my questions are basically:

- Would you suggest any other soap lands that are perhaps better suited for a first time visit?

- I know Japanese are very honest and service minded, but do you think there’s any risk of being scammed / used if I tell the shop that it’s my first time visiting a soap land and also first sexual experience beforehand?

- Is STD test necessary? (From what I have read here it doesn’t seem to be the case.)


Any feedback and recommendations are appreciated!

-Speednr1

 

[steve969696]

I think the advice is clear. Do NOT go to a soap land if you have that kind of budget. It is very hit or miss — and the miss is often chubby or lack of service. Go with a highly recommended escort and you will not be sorry. There are several right here on the forum that would be ideal.

Do not let anyone convince you a soapland is OK for your first go. Yes there are gems there. But U are rolling the dice. You should go with a sure thing and the only sure thing is a highly reviewed escort girl.

 

[User#8628]

Club Yume, Y-Queen, Rothenburg and also Landmark Tower since it seems Mai Hanano/Kuroki is working there (even though I’ve read it’s hard to book a time with her and it’s only for members and Japanese).

When it comes to preference of girl I prefer girls a bit more on the slender side rather than on the chubby.

How did you think club Yume was a good idea then?

 

[User#8628]

- Is STD test necessary? (From what I have read here it doesn’t seem to be the case.)

Definitely do one afterwards

 

[steve969696]

Definitely do one afterwards

I would not agree on this point. The likelihood of getting an STD from one act where the FS is covered is very very small.

 

[Viggagadye]

I think the advice is clear. Do NOT go to a soap land if you have that kind of budget. It is very hit or miss — and the miss is often chubby or lack of service. Go with a highly recommended escort and you will not be sorry. There are several right here on the forum that would be ideal.

Do not let anyone convince you a soapland is OK for your first go. Yes there are gems there. But U are rolling the dice. You should go with a sure thing and the only sure thing is a highly reviewed escort girl.

I think this is the correct advice.

 

[Smokyyoshi]

What about using some escorts services in your home country before coming to Japan? If experience is important and if available, it may be better to choose an escort who you can at least communicate with (rather than a probable non English speaking girl in a soapland.)

 

[Simonka]

What about using some escorts services in your home country before coming to Japan? If experience is important and if available, it may be better to choose an escort who you can at least communicate with (rather than a probable non English speaking girl in a soapland.)

That’s the best advice on this thread, however:

If OP is from one of the “purple” countries on the “prostitution” map of Europe above (since he is North European) where buying sex would be illegal, he might not feel safe using escort services in his home country. Then again, a blue country is simply a train ride away, or Viking Line

 

[steve969696]

That’s the best advice on this thread, however:

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If OP is from one of the “purple” countries on the “prostitution” map of Europe above (since he is North European) where buying sex would be illegal, he might not feel safe using escort services in his home country. Then again, a blue country is simply a train ride away, or Viking Line

So yeah. This is a good idea. I HIGHLY recommend the girls at DIVA escorts in London — where prostitution is perfectly legal. You could see Cambria or Rivetta or a handful of other Romanian girls (I can provide a further list if I like). I guarantee they would give you an off the charts first experience.

And it’s super easy. You fly into Heathrow, take the Express into London, and just walk to their flat from there. It’s one of my favorite worldwide venues.

 

[Speednr1]

First of all, thank you very much for all your replies!

I think the advice is clear. Do NOT go to a soap land if you have that kind of budget. It is very hit or miss — and the miss is often chubby or lack of service. Go with a highly recommended escort and you will not be sorry. There are several right here on the forum that would be ideal.

Do not let anyone convince you a soapland is OK for your first go. Yes there are gems there. But U are rolling the dice. You should go with a sure thing and the only sure thing is a highly reviewed escort girl.

This is exactly the reason why I thought it might be a good idea to ask here in the forum and get some recommendations, thanks My mind has been very much set on soap lands, that's what I've been reading reviews for and so on, need to check out escorts too.

How did you think club Yume was a good idea then?

Because I've read they offer BB to foreigners and I think that is tempting.

That’s the best advice on this thread, however:

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If OP is from one of the “purple” countries on the “prostitution” map of Europe above (since he is North European) where buying sex would be illegal, he might not feel safe using escort services in his home country. Then again, a blue country is simply a train ride away, or Viking Line

Exactly, I'm from one of the purple ones so using an escort service here would not feel safe (and there has even been talk to send people to prison who have bought services even in other countries when they get back, but that was dropped for legal reasons before the election, thank goodness...). Yeah, the blue countries are not far away, but I've been thinking so long to have the first in Japan so I've become a bit snowed in on doing it in Japan... (Of course this is not the only thing I'm gonna do in Japan, gonna visit a concert as well, go to comiket etc., but it's definitely the most important thing...)

 

[Ken1988]

First of all, thank you very pmuch for all your replies!


This is exactly the reason why I thought it might be a good idea to ask here in the forum and get some recommendations, thanks My mind has been very much set on soap lands, that's what I've been reading reviews for and so on, need to check out escorts too.


Because I've read they offer BB to foreigners and I think that is tempting.


Exactly, I'm from one of the purple ones so using an escort service here would not feel safe (and there has even been talk to send people to prison who have bought services even in other countries when they get back, but that was dropped for legal reasons before the election, thank goodness...). Yeah, the blue countries are not far away, but I've been thinking so long to have the first in Japan so I've become a bit snowed in on doing it in Japan... (Of course this is not the only thing I'm gonna do in Japan, gonna visit a concert as well, go to comiket etc., but it's definitely the most important thing...)

Hi, I guess you've done your research very well and you've come up with your decision for a certain set of expectations. I even suspect you to be staying somewhere close to Yoshiwara, perhaps one of the backpackers' inns in Minami-Senju/San'ya area. Then, visiting a Yoshiwara soap fits into your itinerary well.

However, I agree with others that it's better seeing an escort who speaks any of the languages you understand well for your first experience. Just a weekend city break in London or Amsterdam would do, or you can book a date with one of TAG indies while you are in Japan. A love hotel experience with her would be as exotic as soap's.

Many soaps in Yoshiwara are to be closed on December 31 and January 1, and soaplands are usually busy in December and January. Since there is no way you can book and nominate a girl in advance, you really need good luck to meet a girl of your dream by just walking in a soap. Moreover, please forget about BBFS if that's what you meant by BB. There's been a dramatic surge of syphilis infections in Japan over some years now to the extent that some doctors put it "syphilis outbreak".

Enjoy your stay in Japan!

 

[Simonka]

Moreover, please forget about BBFS if that's what you meant by BB.

The only BB I’d like to have is BB Cream

 

[ah toh]

if u want soapland, i can give my best advise.
if u not decide, i will not judge 4u
btw, tokyo yume is not 100% bb
in fact for foreigner chance of bb is almost close to 0.
it really depend on the girls even she provide bb to others

 

[User#8628]

Because I've read they offer BB to foreigners and I think that is tempting.

And you think that a disease test would not be necessary for that?

 

[steve969696]

And you think that a disease test would not be necessary for that?

Doh! Yes, if he goes bareback FS, then yes -- get tested by all means. I would strongly suggest, as others have, he not go bareback. Besides the usual excellent reasons to not, he has a great opportunity. Sex with condom is only disappointing if you've been bareback. If u haven't, then sex with a condom is awesome. So enjoy that while you can and then when you do go bareback some day, it will be a step up!

 

[Speednr1]

So yeah. This is a good idea. I HIGHLY recommend the girls at DIVA escorts in London — where prostitution is perfectly legal. You could see Cambria or Rivetta or a handful of other Romanian girls (I can provide a further list if I like). I guarantee they would give you an off the charts first experience.

And it’s super easy. You fly into Heathrow, take the Express into London, and just walk to their flat from there. It’s one of my favorite worldwide venues.

I checked the site out, certainly some nice looking girls there, if you would like to provide a further list please do.

Hi, I guess you've done your research very well and you've come up with your decision for a certain set of expectations. I even suspect you to be staying somewhere close to Yoshiwara, perhaps one of the backpackers' inns in Minami-Senju/San'ya area. Then, visiting a Yoshiwara soap fits into your itinerary well.

However, I agree with others that it's better seeing an escort who speaks any of the languages you understand well for your first experience. Just a weekend city break in London or Amsterdam would do, or you can book a date with one of TAG indies while you are in Japan. A love hotel experience with her would be as exotic as soap's.

Many soaps in Yoshiwara are to be closed on December 31 and January 1, and soaplands are usually busy in December and January. Since there is no way you can book and nominate a girl in advance, you really need good luck to meet a girl of your dream by just walking in a soap. Moreover, please forget about BBFS if that's what you meant by BB. There's been a dramatic surge of syphilis infections in Japan over some years now to the extent that some doctors put it "syphilis outbreak".

Enjoy your stay in Japan!

Thanks for your reply, this was helpful. So it's really not possible to book and nominate a girl in advance? What I meant with BB was either BBBJ or BBFS or both. I do think the thought of going BB is tempting, at least for the first time, but getting a disease like syphilis is not tempting of course... I get this shattered image of BBFS , so if it would not end up that way, then so be it then, might save myself a disease or two...

if u want soapland, i can give my best advise.
if u not decide, i will not judge 4u
btw, tokyo yume is not 100% bb
in fact for foreigner chance of bb is almost close to 0.
it really depend on the girls even she provide bb to others

Please give your best advice.

And you think that a disease test would not be necessary for that?

Yes, of course I do, if any BBFS would be involved a test is a given when one gets back home, no doubt. I was basically wondering if it was necessary to do a STD test beforehand.. From what I have read, it does seem like the answer to this would be "no" though, which I think is a little strange, because it does seem that BBBJ is offered more regularly than BBFS, but still several STDs, even HIV, can be transmitted by uncovered oral sex too as I understand it (a bit on thin water here though, I only have basic knowledge of STDs..), just find it hard to believe there's no demand for any proof that you're clean beforehand

 

[MikeH]

but still several STIs, even HIV, can be transmitted by uncovered oral sex too as I understand it (a bit on thin water here though, I only have basic knowledge of STIs..)

There is no transmission risk for HIV in receiving oral. The risk for giving is theoretical.

If you are planning to have sex and especially without protection I would strongly suggest you read up on STDs to have the knowledge to be able to make informed decisions.

 

[steve969696]

First on the BBBJ and BBFS thing. These are two completely different things from a risk standpoint. Most P4P like u are looking for worldwide is CFS - BBFS is rare from educated providers and risky for both parties.

On the contrary BBBJ is considered “usual and customary” throughout all countries I have visited (about ten) and CBJ considered disappointing. Bear in mind that BBBJ feels entirely awesome and is the main event for many of us that practice CFS.

On the Diva girls question, it depends a bit on your taste. Mine is petite brunettes with brown eyes so all my recommendations are in that class. Within that domain, I think I would recommend Cambria as best for a rookie. She is just a ton of fun and I know would be very accommodating.

Kendall is awesome too but you will be spoiled for life. Her tits are literally the world’s finest and I have a broad sample size!

Heidi will blow your mind but I am afraid she may make u blow a load before doing the real deed. I came between her thighs and I am a veteran.

I have not done Rivetta or Raphaela but they are on my to do list and get nothing but spectacular reviews.

If your taste runs to the blondies, put on the “Recommended Girls” filter and browse. All my faves are listed so I take it as reliable. Scroll all the way to the bottom of a girls listing and read her reviews carefully. Unlike some sites they are real.

Another tip is the 150£ girls are great. No need to spend more than that unless a particular gal strikes your fancy (Kendall just recently went to two bills for example).

 

[greenhawk]

I was in a very similar situation to you last year. I was 30, had not had sex in 7 years, and was thinking about going to a soapland. My main issue was I could not find an answer for how many pops I would get for any session and I did not want to pay just to cum too quickly in a 90 minutes session and then spend the rest of the session just getting a message or whatever. I ended up going to this since their website clearly states how many pops you get and the service seemed to be more of what I was looking for since a soapland is more of an expensive bath that has sex while this was more girl friend experience. The only down side was this does not offer full service which sucked, but I still had a blast. I had wanted a Japanese girlfriend since I was in high school yet never got one so while I was not a virgin this was my first time being with a Japanese women and the service was amazing. It truly felt like I was having non intercourse sex with a Japanese girlfriend. Her shower play was good, her blow jobs were nice, the sumata felt great, and just the way she touched me and kissed me was exactly what I was looking for. If you do want full service though then I suggest one of the TAG escorts for your first time.

 

[Smokyyoshi]

Seems as though you've made up your mind on losing your virginity in Japan. Good luck to you.

However, as mentioned, you might want to learn a little about STDs before embarking on BBFS. It's better to understand the risks beforehand IMHO.

 

[Speednr1]

First on the BBBJ and BBFS thing. These are two completely different things from a risk standpoint. Most P4P like u are looking for worldwide is CFS - BBFS is rare from educated providers and risky for both parties.

On the contrary BBBJ is considered “usual and customary” throughout all countries I have visited (about ten) and CBJ considered disappointing. Bear in mind that BBBJ feels entirely awesome and is the main event for many of us that practice CFS.

On the Diva girls question, it depends a bit on your taste. Mine is petite brunettes with brown eyes so all my recommendations are in that class. Within that domain, I think I would recommend Cambria as best for a rookie. She is just a ton of fun and I know would be very accommodating.

Kendall is awesome too but you will be spoiled for life. Her tits are literally the world’s finest and I have a broad sample size!

Heidi will blow your mind but I am afraid she may make u blow a load before doing the real deed. I came between her thighs and I am a veteran.

I have not done Rivetta or Raphaela but they are on my to do list and get nothing but spectacular reviews.

If your taste runs to the blondies, put on the “Recommended Girls” filter and browse. All my faves are listed so I take it as reliable. Scroll all the way to the bottom of a girls listing and read her reviews carefully. Unlike some sites they are real.

Another tip is the 150£ girls are great. No need to spend more than that unless a particular gal strikes your fancy (Kendall just recently went to two bills for example).

Big thanks for the recommendations! I have a similar preference as well, brunettes (or black haired) girls and brown eyes.. It's not unthinkable at all that I would go to London for i.e. a weekend at some point to check these girls out (it's quite a bit closer and easier to travel to after all and really flights are really cheap too). After a bit of contemplating I did decide to wait until the Japan trip for the sexual experience however...

About that, thanks to the rest of you here as well for the help. I came back from Japan a few days ago, it was a blast. I eventually went to a few soaplands in Yoshiwara. I was planning on going to just one, but It's addictive... So I went to several and even one in Kobe while going to Osaka.

After asking the questions here I decided to go a bit more with the flow and not plan everything in minute detail, and now in hindsight it felt like the right thing to do. I ended up a bit surprised with some of the results however. Especially in one case (Club Yume) it was not as expected. I'm working on several reviews to elaborate a bit more and to share my experiences, I think it might turn out quite the interesting read. (Spoiler: there was no BBFS involved.) I will finish the reviews within a few days hopefully. I also went for a few of those nude photo shoots too, so I'll write a bit about them as well. Thanks again for the help!

 

[ah toh]

i actually had a bbfs @ tokyo yume
the girl is hugemongorous , to able to stand up is already a great achievement
well i cum inside she ask me to go second time i said no thanks bye bye
as i had said, it depend on the girl
she like me and actually want to eat me up, haha

well, you threw yourself a party for farewell virgin?
anw, congraluation.

 

[ah toh]

normally i can hold the whole session w/o ejectulation, but for her, i just cum and run away.

 

[jhingy567]

the girl is hugemongorous , to able to stand up is already a great achievement
well i cum inside she ask me to go second time i said no thanks bye bye

And despite being so unattractive, she was one of the few girls who could make the legendary ah toh shoot his load?

 

[ah toh]

And despite being so unattractive, she was one of the few girls who could make the legendary ah toh shoot his load?

haha, out of courtesy.