Japanese Women Turned Her Back To Me While I Walked Passed Her?

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This happened just yesterday. I was on my way to work and I wasn't even checking this woman out. I glanced at her for a brief moment and then I noticed that she was looking at me. She immediately looked away or down at the ground/her phone, etc. and as I passed her, I noticed she was turning her body away from me. It was timed so that when I was in line with her, her back was directly facing me and as soon as I passed, she was turning back around to face the street again? I understand that maybe she is just super shy or uncomfortable around foreigners, but isn't this a little ridiculous? You would think that since the Japanese claim to have such a polite culture, that they would be aware that this is rude behavior. I felt insulted when she did this and I called her a b**** really loud and she turned around and I flipped her off. Maybe this confused her, but I don't care. Maybe just maybe she will realize that her behavior is rude and shouldn't be repeated. Anyone else on here experience this bs here in Japan?
 
Mr Cat said:
Maybe just maybe you're a paranoid a**hole.
No offense
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Really dude? She was facing towards me and literally turned her entire body away from me at the exact moment I lined up with her and that is paranoid? You have no idea what paranoid means...
 
k1234k said:
Maybe she wanted you to check out her 'ass'ets.
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Possible, but I doubt it. Most Japanese women idolize 16 year old J-pop stars that wear mini-skirts and high heels for all the wrong reasons. Most Japanese women dress sexy, but they are just trying to be "kawaii" rather than actually appear sexually attractive from the male perspective.
 
No need for apologetic approach here folks. It is what you think it is.

My most humiliating experience actually was riding in a train with empty seat next to me because nobody wanna sit there. It takes additional load of people inside of train to beat statistics when eventually some person who doesn't care because she/he is too tired or ignorant sits there. Meanwhile, empty seat next to drunk salaryman covered with vomit who reads manga porn seems like a better choice for some of them.
 
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DinO_VelveT said:
No need for apologetic approach here folks. It is what you think it is.

My most humiliating experience actually was riding in a train with empty seat next to me because nobody wanna sit there. It takes additional load of people inside of train to beat statistics when eventually some person who doesn't care because she/he is too tired or ignorant sits there. Meanwhile, empty seat next to drunk salaryman covered with vomit who reads manga porn seems like a better choice for some of them.
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Nailed it and with such a realistic visual.
 
I have experienced the same thing. I went to the train stop and I was using my phone and I hear this woman next to me suck her teeth and walk away to stand somewhere else. I wasn't invading her personal space and I don't smell bad but I am ugly so maybe the fact that I was a foreigner and ugly made her pissed off to walk away and wait for the train somewhere else. I've had woman give their backs to me as well and they never sit next to me and like I said, it could be because I'm ugly or maybe it could be something or a combination of other reasons but I could really give a shit what other people think or why they don't want to hang around me. I'm sure as shit am not going to waist my time analyzing the situation. And I'm certainly not going to waste my time flipping people off and calling them names. I would rather just keep it moving. They weren't in my life to begin with so why bother getting upset. Is it rude to be treated like that? Sure. But I don't have to feed them with a reaction of my own.
 
Manny said:
I have experienced the same thing. I went to the train stop and I was using my phone and I hear this woman next to me suck her teeth and walk away to stand somewhere else. I wasn't invading her personal space and I don't smell bad but I am ugly so maybe the fact that I was a foreigner and ugly made her pissed off to walk away and wait for the train somewhere else. I've had woman give their backs to me as well and they never sit next to me and like I said, it could be because I'm ugly or maybe it could be something or a combination of other reasons but I could really give a shit what other people think or why they don't want to hang around me. I'm sure as shit am not going to waist my time analyzing the situation. And I'm certainly not going to waste my time flipping people off and calling them names. I would rather just keep it moving. They weren't in my life to begin with so why bother getting upset. Is it rude to be treated like that? Sure. But I don't have to feed them with a reaction of my own.
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I appreciate your input and the fact that you can relate. Yes, I know that ignoring people who act this way is probably best, but I guess you are the better man. I guess behavior like this has always been a pet peeve of mine. There are probably other things in life that maybe bother you more than me or the next guy. I'm not ugly, but I wouldn't say I'm super handsome either. I don't care whether or not the Japanese woman was attracted to me or not. It was just her behavior that bothered me. It was as if I was checking her out, when I only glanced for a second. There was no need for her to react in such an extreme way, as with the woman who sucked her teeth and walked away from you. I find it rude, but also egocentric and possibly racist as well.
 
TokyoJoeblow said:
This happened just yesterday. I was on my way to work and I wasn't even checking this woman out. I glanced at her for a brief moment and then I noticed that she was looking at me. She immediately looked away or down at the ground/her phone, etc. and as I passed her, I noticed she was turning her body away from me. It was timed so that when I was in line with her, her back was directly facing me and as soon as I passed, she was turning back around to face the street again? I understand that maybe she is just super shy or uncomfortable around foreigners, but isn't this a little ridiculous? You would think that since the Japanese claim to have such a polite culture, that they would be aware that this is rude behavior. I felt insulted when she did this and I called her a b**** really loud and she turned around and I flipped her off. Maybe this confused her, but I don't care. Maybe just maybe she will realize that her behavior is rude and shouldn't be repeated. Anyone else on here experience this bs here in Japan?
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I had this exact thing happen to me a couple of years ago. I was in total shock.....I'm thinking and thinking what it could have been. old fling/one timer or something and could think of nothing......
I think maybe a mental problem (there's a lot of that here fellow mongers)
 
just4fun said:
I had this exact thing happen to me a couple of years ago. I was in total shock.....I'm thinking and thinking what it could have been. old fling/one timer or something and could think of nothing......
I think maybe a mental problem (there's a lot of that here fellow mongers)
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Let me guess, you only glanced at the woman for a second right? Even if say a guy were checking them out for a long time...why completely turn around? It does seem a little mental, when you know they could just look at their stupid phone or at the ground or the sky...
 
TokyoJoeblow said:
Let me guess, you only glanced at the woman for a second right? Even if say a guy were checking them out for a long time...why completely turn around? It does seem a little mental, when you know they could just look at their stupid phone or at the ground or the sky...
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It was unbelievable.......I'm walking with a woman I know and we just crossed the street and I don't have smartphone (I'm not smart) as I'm always looking ahead and this real skinny (my type) looks at me from about 30 feet away and turns around showing me her back and as I walk past (both of us are looking at her) and she keeps on turning as we walk by. WE keep walking but I'm still looking back and she sheepishly looks back and then crosses the street we just came from. The woman I was with says "wtf was that all about" She asked me if I knew her....old gf or something......nothing comes to mind.
She had a .......disheveled look about her......borderline homeless (not my type....just wanted to make that clear)
Mental case I'm pretty sure......
 
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just4fun said:
It was unbelievable.......I'm walking with a woman I know and we just crossed the street and I don't have smartphone (I'm not smart) as I'm always looking ahead and this real skinny (my type) looks at me from about 30 feet away and turns around showing me her back and as I walk past (both of us are looking at her) and she keeps on turning as we walk by. WE keep walking but I'm still looking back and she sheepishly looks back and then crosses the street we just came from. The woman I was with says "wtf was that all about" She asked me if I knew her....old gf or something......nothing comes to mind.
She had a .......disheveled look about her......borderline homeless (not my type....just wanted to make that clear)
Mental case I'm pretty sure......
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Unfortunately, in my case...the woman didn't look crazy or borderline homeless. Mine was a young woman that looked like she was in her mid 20's and she was kind of cute (nothing special). I think in my case, she was just a self-important or really insecure person.
 
TokyoJoeblow said:
Unfortunately, in my case...the woman didn't look crazy or borderline homeless. Mine was a young woman that looked like she was in her mid 20's and she was kind of cute (nothing special). I think in my case, she was just a self-important or really insecure person.
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Insecurity is a mental health problem......
 
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it is weird behavior for an adult. When I was in elementary school and junior high school girls would do that to me and understandably so. I knew that at that age kids can be very cruel, call me names because I'm ugly but as adults we learn to be more tactful and not do stuff like that. Here they react like animals would to things not of their kind. I've seen them tolerate drunk stinky Japanese salarymen near them but the moment a foreigner is in visual they either give you they back or walk to the next cart or block. Im not saying all women are like this but quite a few and not just to me. I've seen it done to other people as well. Doesn't matter how clean or handsome. I hear stuff like this all the time at work and at the bar I frequent. I can totally understand how much this can piss anyone off because I went through it when I was younger and it tore me apart and maybe because I went through it on a daily basis is the reason I got over it as an adult. Tokyojoeblow, I think you're a decent guy and I'm in no way a better person than you or the next. I'm sure there are things that infuriate me that wouldn't move you. The bottom line here is that what this woman did was extremely rude and childlike. I just tell myself it's their lost. I'm nothing in the looks department but I more than make up in charm and im one charming son of a bitch
 
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Some of the troops sound like they need some R&R. Maybe you notice these kinds of behaviour because of who does them. Ever thought of that? There may be many who do it but you're not going to notice the salaryman, the obatarian because they are not in your realm of consciousness like someone attractive/shaggable age is. People in Japan do turn their back to people if they have to squeeze past. The empty train seat thing does happen, but how often? If it is happening frequently maybe it is something about you. We are in a metropolis of 12,000,000 on a working day. A perecentage will be bonkers. I once sat down next a woman on the train. Did not do more than that. I was in a suit. My pants leg or maybe bag which I put on my lap happened to graze her coat. She grabbed her coat and started furiously brushing it, tutting, as if a bird shay on it. Verdict - bonkers and that's that. Relax guys and look at the millions of acts of normalcy and kindness that happen around you.
 
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I don't know why you felt you had to call her a Bitch and give her the finger, it's only behaviour like that that gives her reason for believing she was right in the first place to turn her back on you and every other westerner. If someone pisses you off, move on, it's not like you are ever likely to see them again, and she's not exactly hurt you "well, maybe your feelings, but really who gives a shit".

I think we all experience the empty train seat, and the fact that they turn away and won't give us the time of day, but sometimes that's down to who you are, and if you are the kind of guy that goes around calling women you've never met a Bitch in the street, then maybe they are right. If I have an empty seat next to me, and someone is standing, then who's the one having an uncomfortable ride because of their issues, it's certainly not me.

Hey, we'd all love it if everyone was super friendly, chatted us up on the train and the young cuties took us home every night and rode us through till morning. But, maybe they are shy, maybe this person that they can't relate to scares them, maybe they think that as a westerner you are riddled with disease, maybe they are slightly mentally unstable. Really, just let them get on with their life, it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things.

There are so many cute young women here, and yes, as a westerner it's sometimes hard not to be in awe of the beauty of some of these women and maybe stare a little longer than I should, but if someone turned their back on me for no reason, I'd think it was their issue, and not abuse them in the street for it.

I'm not sure what we achieve by being an asshole to people we don't know, but 2 wrongs don't make a right
 
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It may bore you to tears, but if you watch Japanese dramas on TV you will notice (if you look for it) ways people align to each other in ways that are different from Western ways. For example, when someone is warning someone they will not always do it literally' eyeball-to-eyeball' as Americsns might, but stand beside them, a bit apart, and both will look straight ahead as thdvwarning is given sort of threateningly matter-of-factly. Yes, it looks 'weird', and it may not even happen much in real life, but it says something about body alignment in communication/generally. Doing a high velocity warning directly into someone's face here is a sign of instability. Someone yelling 'Bitch' and giving the finger to a complete stranger, female, is, too. Probably also in whereever you come from.
 
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Some of the troops sound like they need some R&R. Maybe you notice these kinds of behaviour because of who does them. Ever thought of that? There may be many who do it but you're not going to notice the salaryman, the obatarian because they are not in your realm of consciousness like someone attractive/shaggable age is. People in Japan do turn their back to people if they have to squeeze past. The empty train seat thing does happen, but how often? If it is happening frequently maybe it is something about you. We are in a metropolis of 12,000,000 on a working day. A perecentage will be bonkers. I once sat down next a woman on the train. Did not do more than that. I was in a suit. My pants leg or maybe bag which I put on my lap happened to graze her coat. She grabbed her coat and started furiously brushing it, tutting, as if a bird shay on it. Verdict - bonkers and that's that. Relax guys and look at the millions of acts of normalcy and kindness that happen around you.
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No, I notice men do it to me as well. Of course, it would bother me more if a member of the opposite sex did it. Men don't usually completely turn in a circle as I pass, but they sure have moved away from me, avoided sitting next to me, etc.
 
Tokyo1447 said:
Your a douche! So she turned her back to you, oh go cry me a river. Please go back to your country where it's acceptable to be a douche! Ahhhmaaaaagawd she turned her back too me!!!!!!!!!
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I'm the douche for posting about a woman's strange behavior? Look at what you posted in response...it has douche bag written all over it. As the admins would say: ZERO CONTENT!

By the way, what wonderful country are you from? I'm sure you don't belong there as you are also a douche.
 
Tokyo1 said:
@TokyoJoeblow - are you sure you did not show her a picture of your Dick ? You may have a bad reputation around town :)
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Maybe I should have walked up to her, tapped her on the shoulder so she turned around to have a big old dick pic right in her face lol. I don't give a shit if people hate me on here.
 
Well, I think you reading other people's actions perhaps wrongly or ethnocentrically and from my long experience in Japan and in the field, you maybe suffering culture shock. Totally out there but I'd put your stay time in Japan at 1-3 years, maybe in the middle. But maybe I am the one misreading. I have no more comment on this except, don't judge too quickly in a context you are not used to.
 
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Well, I think you reading other people's actions perhaps wrongly or ethnocentrically and from my long experience in Japan and in the field, you maybe suffering culture shock. Totally out there but I'd put your stay time in Japan at 1-3 years, maybe in the middle. But maybe I am the one misreading. I have no more comment on this except, don't judge too quickly in a context you are not used to.
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It is a fair assumption to say that I may be suffering culture shock. There is a lot about Japanese culture I know, but I'm sure there remains a large gray area that I don't. I'm married here, but as I'm on here, I wouldn't be surprised if I moved to another country in 2 or 3 years from now. I might end up staying in Japan forever, who knows. I usually don't judge too quickly, but I do sometimes when I'm already on edge/stressed and I come across behavior like this that is directed at me.

Maybe next time I see a woman completely 360 as I pass, I could walk up to her and politely ask why she did that. Even if I asked in Japanese, I'm sure she would be too nervous to even give me an answer, but it would be fun to try this anyway.
 
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