“Stealthing”

[SashaSin]

Stealthing is when a man removes a condom during sex despite agreeing to wear one so that he can cum inside the other person without their knowledge.

Has any girls here been a victim of stealthing? Have you caught a guy in the act of stealthing? How’d you handle it?

Guys: Have you ever gotten caught stealthing? How’d you handle the FAIL? Did she get pregnant?​

 

[impish]

Stealthing is when a man removes a condom during sex despite agreeing to wear one so that he can cum inside the other person without their knowledge.

Has any girls here been a victim of stealthing? Have you caught a guy in the act of stealthing? How’d you handle it?

Guys: Have you ever gotten caught stealthing? How’d you handle the FAIL? Did she get pregnant?

I don't know why any guy would do this. Why take any risks?

 

[MikeH]

Have you ever gotten caught stealthing?​

Err, no. I guess it must be because we guys in Japan are taught how to do it properly at school sex-ed and also share stories openly with each other. So none of us have been caught doing it!

 

[jhingy567]

Another question is whether "stealthing" should be considered rape.

 

[Lukes]

It's not stealthing if you go in bareback from the start, which happens in Japan sometimes.

 

[User#6517]

I think stealthing may be an alarming “trend” in the US. Not sure how often it happens in Japan. Stealthing was still a problem before, but a couple of men started to actually brag about doing it on social media and forums.. so now women and gay men are becoming more aware of it.

Fortunately, I’ve never experienced that, but I do know that some clients and even sugar daddies have attempted to do this to a few girls I follow on social media and SW groups. Luckily, they knew something was up, so they cut the session short.

Also, a former escort/pornstar who is now a mentor to new sexworkers has just started selling anti-stealthing condoms that glow in the dark so that “people can easily check if the condom is on or not”. I personally think that most people can feel if someone’s going in protected or not, and I don’t know how awkward it’ll be to keep looking back to check on the condom.. but maybe it works for some people?

 

[ShowaJidai]

I don’t know how awkward it’ll be to keep looking back to check on the condom.. but maybe it works for some people?

You just have to know how to play it. Don't look down like you're worried and checking. Just make sincere sounding comments about how you like seeing his cock in you.

 

[User#8628]

condoms that glow in the dark

Ok that is so weird it would kind of kill the mood but whatever works, lol!

Personally, if i'd want to check if its on or not during doggie style, i'd bring my hand between my legs and feel around.

I've never been stealthed and i think you may not notice on time but you definitely find out after. I had condoms slip off a few times only to find them afterwards. Awful.
One time long ago a guy knew the condom broke but he kept going and pulled out last minute. I think he should have stopped and put a new one on. I was really upset about it.

 

[SashaSin]

Another question is whether "stealthing" should be considered rape.

I think that it definitely should be considered rape or there should be a new illegal term for the offense, so that people are very clear on the differences of the two offenses. Both are violating, can cause psychological and physical damage and is against a person’s will.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Stealthing seems such a tame word for such a despicable act.

 

[SashaSin]

Luckily, offenses like these are being exposed because I am sure that this is something that has been secretly inherited and encouraged for generations.

 

[warubuta]

I think that it definitely should be considered rape or there should be a new illegal term for the offense, so that people are very clear on the differences of the two offenses. Both are violating, can cause psychological and physical damage and is against a person’s will.

I think that women who trick men into getting them pregnant should be charged with fraud, thrown in the slammer and should be forced to have an abortion if the victim so desires. Just because the fetus happens to reside inside the mother doesn't mean she gets sole dicretion over its fate. Why should it? Why should a woman, through trickery get to ruin a mans life by selfishly forcing him into responsibilities he had no intention of assuming? This kind of trickery includes poking holes in condoms and telling the victim that she is on birth control when she is not. That is what I think. I realize I am not writing in Italics so my thought has little merit, but I just wanted to....you know.....express my Warubuta self!

 

[SashaSin]

I think that women who trick men into getting them pregnant should be charged with fraud, thrown in the slammer and should be forced to have an abortion if the victim so desires. Just because the fetus happens to reside inside the mother doesn't mean she gets sole dicretion over its fate. Why should it? Why should a woman, through trickery get to ruin a mans life by selfishly forcing him into responsibilities he had no intention of assuming? This kind of trickery includes poking holes in condoms and telling the victim that she is on birth control when she is not. That is what I think. I realize I am not writing in Italics so my thought has little merit, but I just wanted to....you know.....express my Warubuta self!

I agree both are wrong. Having clear communication could help. As well as respecting each other and yourself ...but hey where’s the love? LOL

 

[warubuta]

I think that it definitely should be considered rape or there should be a new illegal term for the offense, so that people are very clear on the differences of the two offenses. Both are violating, can cause psychological and physical damage and is against a person’s will.

For fuck sake we dont need any more new legal terms, rules or laws. We got too goddamn many already. People like you are always coming up with new ways for you to be offended or wronged. You like to sit there on your vinyl couch and think up new laws and rules that Warubuta has to follow. Sorry, Warubuta cannot abide. Why do we need a law to tell us that we cant slide off a condom when we want? Do you think anyone would actually not do that because there is a law against it? Do you think any cop or judge would actually enforce such a law? We only need one more law and here it is: No more laws, especially about shit that is just common sense.

 

[SashaSin]

Goodmorning

“People like you” ? Lol
You obviously have something against me perhaps you should figure out your own lack of self love and self hatred.

And yes laws and the system aren’t fail proof. But communication, self love and respect is. The more we talk about things, the more we know and once we know practice being true to yourself. Most of us are born with common sense it’s just that we fail to use it from our lack of self love.

 

[warubuta]

I agree both are wrong. Having clear communication could help. As well as respecting each other and yourself ...but hey where’s the love? LOL

The clear communication with love might go something like this:

SashaSin: Oh baby that feels so good. Is that one of those super thin condoms you are using?
Warubuta: Uh, no Sasha baby The Buta only uses Big Boy XL but in all the excitement I just decided to slip it off and slide it in commando style for a little bit.
SashaSin: What! You are not wearing a condom?!
Warubuta: Naw baby its cool because I communicated about it with you and because I love you too.
SashiSin: Warubuta you are the baddest pig and I love you too. Gimme your hot Buta juice and lets make some little Sasha pigges!

 

[SashaSin]

LMAO
Oink oink oink

 

[warubuta]

Goodmorning

“People like you” ? Lol
You obviously have something against me perhaps you should figure out your own lack of self love and self hatred.

And yes laws and the system aren’t fail proof. But communication, self love and respect is. The more we talk about things, the more we know and once we know practice being true to yourself. Most of us are born with common sense it’s just that we fail to use it from our lack of self love.

Yes. Thats why I wonder why you want to make a law about condom usage. What would the actual statute be anyway? All men shall here to for give ample notice to all women at least 15 seconds before they remove the condom to ensure that all women have ample opportunity and adiquate time to reject the uncovered penis if they so desire.

 

[Anna Summer]

I’ve had the experience about 5 years ago in a non eacort setting. It was a Japanese guy, I hooked up with and even tho I had my own condoms with me (I always do no matter what) we first used the only one condom in the love hotel.
During doggy, he must’ve removed it without me knowing. And I didn’t notice it because during that time I wasn’t an escort and rarely had sex anyways.
He came inside me and what totally bizarre is, that he tried to safe the condom for later for another round as soon as I noticed that, I got into the shower, dressed and left. Awful experience. Thank god i was on birth control during that time....

 

[akasam]

Another question is whether "stealthing" should be considered rape.

Not rape, but it is definitely sexual assault. Yes, sexual assault of all kinds is often difficult to prove, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be illegal.

 

[warubuta]

Not rape, but it is definitely sexual assault. Yes, sexual assault of all kinds is often difficult to prove, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be illegal.

What about when Warubuta says to his hot lady from Osaka, "I promise not to shoot it in your mouth SS baby." but then the Buta can't control himself and makes a little mistake? I think that is definitely probably almost sexual assault. Difficult to prove. Some guys do it on purpose. Some girls, like the Butas hot number from Osaka, pretend they dont like it but they really do. The Buta sometimes does it by accident on purpose if you know what I mean.

 

[JackB]

I don't know why any guy would do this. Why take any risks?

Yeah, I am still trying to figure out the why? But then again there are a lot of behaviors and personal tastes that are inconceivable to me. In fact, the whole power issue in sex eludes me, I consider it more akin to performance art. Or maybe its more like religion because it's a miracle when I get it.

 

[SashaSin]

Yeah, I am still trying to figure out the why? But then again there are a lot of behaviors and personal tastes that are inconceivable to me. In fact, the whole power issue in sex eludes me, I consider it more akin to performance art. Or maybe its more like religion because it's a miracle when it get it.

I have a question ...
Does having sex bare feel exceptionally different or more pleasurable than wearing condoms?

Is it the fantasy, peer pressure, pure interest or power? I guess everyone has their own reason.

 

[JackB]

I have a question ...
Does having sex bare feel exceptionally different or more pleasurable than wearing condoms?

Is it the fantasy, peer pressure, pure interest or power? I guess everyone has their own reason.

To me it can feel different, but not significant enough to outweigh the externalities of unprotected sex . There are a number of varibles that affect the "feeling." But then again the cost/benefit ratio, imho, is never balanced. To that end there are many fabricated devices that provide a comparable release to that of protected sex. So why accept it as a substitute? Well because of the intimacy experienced, whether genuine or perceived, that satisfies a mental need. All of the other sensory uptakes like a smile, a sound, a touch, a spoken word, suprise, are what I enjoy.

But I know that others get different mental stimulation that can be for less honourable gratification depending on your personal perspectives and certainly my own. As to peer pressure being a factor, I would surmise that is an age thing. Us older guys seldom compare notes in real life and most of our fields where we grow our fucks to give have become barren over time.

 

[MikeH]

Another question is whether "stealthing" should be considered rape.

I guess at least it cannot be considered to be a murder; maybe just the opposite. Is there a word for that?