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Let's face it , and I don't say that to approve of rape or stealthing or whatever form of abuse, but if unprotected sex had been only consensual since the beginning of mankind... most if not all of us wouldnt be living today
 
Frenchy said:
Let's face it , and I don't say that to approve of rape or stealthing or whatever form of abuse, but if unprotected sex had been only consensual since the beginning of mankind... most if not all of us wouldnt be living today
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Then again that might have been a very good thing indeed! :p
 
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Frenchy said:
Let's face it , and I don't say that to approve of rape or stealthing or whatever form of abuse, but if unprotected sex had been only consensual since the beginning of mankind... most if not all of us wouldnt be living today
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At what point in World History did sex become consensual? You may use your text book.
 
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Durg50 said:
yeah it is way different, and better.
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Define "better". If with a partner whose STD status is unknown to you and/or with someone whose birth control you are not sure about then it's not better. Because pretty much all the time I would be thinking about the worst outcomes thus destroying the whole session.

But yeah, with a monogamous relationship where you either don't mind a small person appearing in 9 months or you trust the girl to be in pill then the physical sensation is obviously better. Unfortunately I don't think I will ever full-fill the requirements so for me doing it bare is never better.
 
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warubuta said:
At what point in World History did sex become consensual? You may use your text book.
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That was my point, it never became fully consensual for everybody anywhere at any point of time. I would even hasard that in our genealogical tree we have more rapists (at various degrees of "rape") than men who romantically waited for their partners to be wet and willing.
 
jhingy567 said:
Ok so we've established that it feels better for men. Any difference on how it feels for women?
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Wait! Dont answer that question Sasha. This site is full of anecdotaI and thereby inaccurate information and frankly I am tired of it. I propose that I purchase (at my own expense of course) a variety of condoms including ribbed, lubed, and the other shapes and sizes available. I wil make sure to get a box of my personal favorites, BigBoy XL. Then, under very strict scientifically controlled conditions, I will try each one of them out on you. You can then rate the experience on a scale of 1 to 10 for a variety of attributes. Mike will stand by to tabulate the data in realtime and Frenchy will also be on hand to validate the accuracy and authenticity of the test according to ISO Paris Accord Standards. Of course I will accept no fees for my services. All in the name of science.
 
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jhingy567 said:
Ok so we've established that it feels better for men. Any difference on how it feels for women?
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I can only talk from my experience but condoma tend to dry me out really fast which I probably also attributed to the latex free condoms. (They are kinda dry and powdery without lubrication).

I wouldn’t say that I feel a major difference. Mostly not tho. Both feels good and almost the same. But not much of a difference to skip the rubber all together.
 
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jhingy567 said:
Ok so we've established that it feels better for men. Any difference on how it feels for women?
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Personally, I feel like there is a slight difference, especially when comparing super thin condoms that feel like plastic wrap to bareback.. but not enough differences to make me think one is better than the other in terms of feel.
 
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Anna Summer said:
I can only talk from my experience but condoma tend to dry me out really fast which I probably also attributed to the latex free condoms.
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Condoms definitely dry me out really fast as well.:cry: The oils that most condoms are lubricated with aren't organic, natural and contribute to
cervical cancer and vaginal irritations. Besides coconut oil, theres this new water based - organic lube named "Pepee" that I've found in local shops here in Osaka.
Condoms do feel slightly different but not different enough to risk anything. I enjoy the entire experience rather than depending solely on the stroke anyway. :sneaky:
 
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jhingy567 said:
:wideyed: Where did you hear this?
Also, I thought condoms don't generally come with oil-based lubricants since they can compromise the latex.
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Well my mother is a survivor of cervical cancer I've heard it from her.
Some condoms are oil, silicone and water based but if you consider the chemistry and the natural effects on
the lubricant (whether it's either of the three lubricants) once it is packaged, stored and exposed to heat for
months to years it isn't healthy to the human body. The lubricant is actually very toxic. Think about if
you ate this lubricant every day - you would encounter some sort of illness. If I can't eat or eat with it I wouldn't
put it in/on a sensitive place like a vagina or penis. Might sound nit picky but I rinse off the lubrication that comes on the condom and use my own.
 
SashaSin said:
Well my mother is a survivor of cervical cancer I've heard it from her.
Some condoms are oil, silicone and water based but if you consider the chemistry and the natural effects on
the lubricant (whether it's either of the three lubricants) once it is packaged, stored and exposed to heat for
months to years it isn't healthy to the human body. The lubricant is actually very toxic. Think about if
you ate this lubricant every day - you would encounter some sort of illness. If I can't eat or eat with it I wouldn't
put it in/on a sensitive place like a vagina or penis. Might sound nit picky but I rinse off the lubrication that comes on the condom and use my own.
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NO! You should never use oil-based anything with a latex condom! Here’s the science behind why:

https://goodcleanlove.com/how-does-oil-based-lube-break-down-latex-condoms/amp/

Water-based lubricants and silicone-based lubricants are the ONLY way to go. Recently coconut oil has been touted as suitable to use with condoms, but the science is still out on whether this is true or not.
 
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jhingy567 said:
Ok so we've established that it feels better for men. Any difference on how it feels for women?
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I find the super-thin Japanese condoms to be very drying. I love the SKYN brand of condoms though. I don’t notice a difference in feeling between BBFS and protected sex.

Although the last time I had BBFS was in a LTR prior to being an escort, so maybe my memory has faded. I do appreciate that condoms make cleanup easier. :)
 
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Mischa Maxwell said:
NO! You should never use oil-based anything with a latex condom! Here’s the science behind why:

https://goodcleanlove.com/how-does-oil-based-lube-break-down-latex-condoms/amp/

Water-based lubricants and silicone-based lubricants are the ONLY way to go. Recently coconut oil has been touted as suitable to use with condoms, but the science is still out on whether this is true or not.
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I understand the link but it mentions why lube isn't good for condoms but doesn't mention why condoms + lube aren't good for the human body. Isn't that most important?

Yea I don't use oil based store lube - I use organic water based lube and coconut oil. Silicon makes no sense as well, why would you put silicone inside your body and create friction from sex? This isn't being exploited just yet probably because silicon is a very cheap option for companies.
Overall, condoms and anything artificial is terrible for the human body, std's/sti's shouldn't exist and we should be able to have sex wild and free.
 
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SashaSin said:
theres this new water based - organic lube named "Pepee" that I've found in local shops here in Osaka.
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If you mean the massage lotion called ペペ by Nakajima Chemicals it has been the best selling "personal lubricant" in Japan for several decades. I don't know how organic it is but some soaplands use it too so you can buy it in bulk, something like 20 litre per box so should be enough for at least few weeks.

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Think about if you ate this lubricant every day - you would encounter some sort of illness.
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Well, no arguments there. Except that it is probably not a very good indicator if it will be harmful when used externally. I mean I wouldn't go and eat bleach or sun block either and still many people use them with no ill effects.
 
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MikeH said:
If you mean the massage lotion called ペペ by Nakajima Chemicals it has been the best selling "personal lubricant" in Japan for several decades. I don't know how organic it is but some soaplands use it too so you can buy it in bulk, something like 20 litre per box so should be enough for at least few weeks.



Well, no arguments there. Except that it is probably not a very good indicator if it will be harmful when used externally. I mean I wouldn't go and eat bleach or sun block either and still many people use them with no ill effects.
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No this isn't the same lubrication that I was mentioning.
And yea you shouldn't use bleach or sun block especially
everyday or several times a week. If you are an escort
or someone who enjoys sex numerous times each week
and use protection you should be conscious about what
you choose to use to enjoy sex.

Actually, the ingredients in sunblock (which are in some foods)
and bleach (which are in most foods) are known to cause cancer.
Lol why do you think that because your body doesn't react immediately
to something mean that it isn't effecting it? There are more cosmetic and
sexual substances being created that you can injest for a reason. We
have an entire innovative and thriving vegan/organic market now.
Your external body is just as important as your internal body - your
skin has pores that soak up everything within.

But hey being consciously anal about what enters your body isn't for
everyone these are just my preferences and my own sex rituals.
 
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jhingy567 said:
you are quite gifted in this regard being black.
In Australia, fair-skinned people can quickly get severe sunburn walking outside without sunblock.
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And honestly thats some worthy charity for black people to contribute to.
 
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