At Kagayaki Delivery Health

[User#3673]

Has anyone tried them yet? I just found them at Metropolis Tokyo (in the classified section). If the girls are really like their photos, they are very beautiful.

http://www.d-kagayaki.com/en/top.html

Looks like they offer sumata, however it seems that the places that offer that, often offer more than that.

 

[meiji]

This is not a review. Please post in the correct place in the future. Thanks.

As to the org itself, the site design looks suspiciously like the Parlor Club folks of the erotic massage fame. I couldn't count on the girls looking like that, but you never know...

 

[User#3673]

This is not a review. Please post in the correct place in the future. Thanks.

As to the org itself, the site design looks suspiciously like the Parlor Club folks of the erotic massage fame. I couldn't count on the girls looking like that, but you never know...

Sorry about that, and yes I agree, it does look like the same group with the massage business.

 

[KansaiBboy]

I have actually tried kagayaki, and in my experience the girls are the ones in the photos.

however, I haven't been able to get more than sumata.

 

[User#3673]

When you do sumata, do you usually wear a condom or does that negate the whole thing? I did it once with a condom on at a soapland, and it still felt very nice. I wanted the condom on, she didn`t. I think with all the lube and everything though, everything diluted etc,
I think it makes it much tougher to catch anything from doing sumata. A doctor said that to me too, he said there would be some risk of syphilis. But that seems pretty rare these days anyway.

 

[Keiji]

Sumata has always scared me since my very first experience a provider did it to me. I fear that an accidental flip might cause my stick to enter the woman...uncovered... As soon as a provider starts sumata I stop her right away..."no, no". I think it would be an interesting survey....Had anybody who ever got sumata ever penetrated by accident? Didn`t we had a survey feature in the forum? I can't find it...

 

[User#3673]

Keiji, that`s a very good point. I think I will continue to insist on being covered when I do sumata.

 

[Eagle007]

Can anyone tell what is Sumata?
Sorry for being ill informed.

 

[Kitty Carr]

It's where the guy rubs his penis between the girl's thighs without actually penetrating her.

 

[Zaphod222]

Sumata has always scared me since my very first experience a provider did it to me. I fear that an accidental flip might cause my stick to enter the woman...uncovered... As soon as a provider starts sumata I stop her right away..."no, no". I think it would be an interesting survey....Had anybody who ever got sumata ever penetrated by accident? Didn`t we had a survey feature in the forum? I can't find it...

I guess it could happen in theory, but it is really not that easy. And if Sumata scares you, the whole Japanese deli health industry must scare you, because that is their stable base product.

 

[Wwanderer]

I find it surprising that sumata is virtually unknown in the West as a p4p (or np4p for that matter) activity. It doesn't even have a name in English as far as I am aware.

-Ww

 

[johnnyboy84]

Formally speaking, sumata is intercural sex. If a girl is on top of me, I feel more uncomfortable about it, but if I am on top of her or she is sitting on my lap while I am in a sitting position and she is facing her back towards me, I have no issue with it for the most part. I will admit I had a few close calls being on top of a girl and a girl on top of me and I did have one instance where my cum did penetrate.

 

[Wwanderer]

True but I doubt that 1 sex worker in a 1000 in the US or UK or other English speaking countries would have the slightest clue what " intercural sex" is, even if she knew the technique (which very few would).

I'm slightly puzzled by this fear of brief inadvertent penetration. Are you guys worried about catching a disease that quickly and easily or is it something else? My biggest concern would be that it would upset and perhaps piss-off the lady.

-Ww

 

[johnnyboy84]

I have only seen one porno video of the technique and it was in an old Jenna Jameson video lol. I say even taking uncovered oral has its risks too. But very rarely do I do sumata anyway due to some close calls and the fact that somehow my cum entered a woman.

 

[Eagle007]

It's where the guy rubs his penis between the girl's thighs without actually penetrating her.

Thanks a lot

 

[meiji]

I find it surprising that sumata is virtually unknown in the West as a p4p (or np4p for that matter) activity. It doesn't even have a name in English as far as I am aware.

-Ww

It does, actually. In most American hobby circles, it's called a 'stripper slide'.

 

[Wwanderer]

It does, actually. In most American hobby circles, it's called a 'stripper slide'.

Wow! I never heard of it, and I have been active in US hobby circles for about 40 years, although it was a largely opaque market/industry until it went online in the mid-90s or so.

-Ww

 

[johnnyboy84]

I wasn't aware of that. I have spent pretty much nearly all of my adult life in Japan so all of my hobbying has been done here. I am almost 30 and been living here since I was 21.

 

[Wwanderer]

I envy you jb88...

-Ww

 

[johnnyboy84]

Well, you can envy me in some ways and not envy me in others. Unfortunately, my generation was the first to be exposed to porn on the internet from a relatively young age and it gave me very wrong conceptions about sex. I remember back in jr. high I'd try to watch what used to be the playboy channel by making out the chopped up and blurry images and by the time I start high school, you can just go on the internet and that was during the 56K days lol. But still worth it during that time. I was surprised how little girls I meet here in Japan don't do what the girls in porn do lol.

 

[Wwanderer]

Yeah...to be more precise, I envy you re "discovering" Japan at a relatively young age. I didn't come to Japan for the first time until I was in my mid-late 30s, and by then I had put down very considerable roots elsewhere. But I'm very happy with my life and don't actually wish it had gone any differently in any major way.

-Ww

 

[Zaphod222]

I find it surprising that sumata is virtually unknown in the West as a p4p (or np4p for that matter) activity. It doesn't even have a name in English as far as I am aware.

Well, there is the tittifeck (strangely called "Spanish" in German); that is one version of Sumata. It tends to work better among gaijin, because with Asian ladies there is often not so much there there.

 

[bichan2]

If you would like more info on certain sex terminology in Japan go to Erolin guide and there you will find some.

http://erolin.net/?ac=top&ageflag=yes&lang=en&egu=1scdgdi2nom6mc406horad19t7

 

[Wwanderer]

Well, there is the tittifeck (strangely called "Spanish" in German); that is one version of Sumata. It tends the work better among gaijin, because with Asian ladies there is often not so there there.

In English (in the US at least) it is usually called "Russian" or "Spanish"; I have no idea why. It is a familiar activity, but would it be considered sumata in Japan? I didn't think so. I thought sumata referred specifically to the between her thighs technique.

-Ww

 

[meiji]

No, a 'russian' in Japanese is "paizuri" See also the abbreviations and translations post (in fact it would be better to move this discussion over there. http://tokyoadultguide.com/threads/abbreviations-and-translations.6046/