Booking TAG escorts, how far in advance?

[Frenchy]

So you're looking for...yourself?!?

I meant "cheap vaginas" but apparently the joke wasn't obvious , apologies.

 

[Frenchy]

french guys are so stingy!

... or just more vocal about getting value

In fact one of the best escorts experiences I've ever had costed me about EUR 2000 and that was long time ago. And I tipped!

 

[e-smile]

I can confirm this in my case because i have no idea how to work photoshop magic and my photos aren't edited by someone else either, lol.

I use photoshop a lot for work so I can tell

so you not french

en effet

Back to the topic another good point about independents is that they are promoting themselves and trying to build a reputation so I can trust them more with their health (and their attitude) while agency girls are anonymous who may leave the business anytime ...
I'm not necessarily talking about STD, I wouldn't even want to catch a cold and I'm sure the TAG ladies would ask for postponing the meeting if they have a sore throat.

 

[Anna Summer]

I can confirm this in my case because i have no idea how to work photoshop magic and my photos aren't edited by someone else either, lol.


Aw sweet.

Same. Although I do know how to use photoshop but have never used it to edit my pictures (which are taken by myself with a tripod).

I think if guys are still concerned about pictures not being really whatever, most of the independent escorts have instagram or Twitter (or both)

My choices would be @Anna Summer , @User#8628 and @Jennifer Maddingly

Indeed, very sweet

 

[Anna Summer]

I use photoshop a lot for work so I can tell


en effet

Back to the topic another good point about independents is that they are promoting themselves and trying to build a reputation so I can trust them more with their health (and their attitude) while agency girls are anonymous who may leave the business anytime ...
I'm not necessarily talking about STD, I wouldn't even want to catch a cold and I'm sure the TAG ladies would ask for postponing the meeting if they have a sore throat.

That is exactly what happened to me at the moment. I'm sick with a mild cold and had to postpone an appointment. I would never want a client to get sick just because I'm forcing myself to meet someone (it's obvious anyways as I have a runny nose as well... yay....)

 

[e-smile]

That is exactly what happened to me at the moment. I'm sick with a mild cold and had to postpone an appointment. I would never want a client to get sick just because I'm forcing myself to meet someone (it's obvious anyways as I have a runny nose as well... yay....)

Oh I hate catching a cold when the weather is warm and nice, not that I like winter sickness but it's somehow less frustrating. Hope you get well soon.

 

[Anna Summer]

Oh I hate catching a cold when the weather is warm and nice, not that I like winter sickness but it's somehow less frustrating. Hope you get well soon.

Yeah it sucks! I feel like I'm missing out on the nice weather by staying inside...
thank you! It should be fine real quick (and hopefully the last time for now...)

 

[Karbon]

May be you should try DxO Optic pro for windows (trial version http://www.dxo.com/us/download/dxo-opticspro ) With it you can enhance pictures magically and automatically ... though from what I can see on your website, you don't need to

I can confirm this in my case because i have no idea how to work photoshop magic and my photos aren't edited by someone else either, lol.


Aw sweet.

 

[RandomTokyoGuy]

Yeah it sucks! I feel like I'm missing out on the nice weather by staying inside...
thank you! It should be fine real quick (and hopefully the last time for now...)

If you ask me, staying inside at least during day time was exactly the right thing to do. Then again women have more options to dress lightly

 

[Wwanderer]

Well, another thread hijacked by a comment tangential, at best, to the simple question raised in the OP...

But fwiiw, here's my two yen worth based on extensive mongering over four decades and in many places around the world:

- There are excellent and not very good escorts to be found among indies and in agencies (obviously...often they are even the same woman at different points in her career or working under different names).

- The best way to find the excellent ones is to consult reviews by well known/established posters on monger boards, ideally local ones such as TAG. You should not be overly influenced by any single or small number of reviews/reviewers, whether positive or negative.

- Backchannel (private messages or reviews on closed forums) information is more reliable than that posted publicly.

- A strong indicator of excellence, beyond reviews, is an indie or agency with a well established long-term reputation for good service...in other words, a valuable "brand".

- Beyond that, internet indies with their own websites (i.e., not just advertising via temporary classified ads) are the best bet and definitely a better bet than agency escorts. This all makes perfect economic sense if you think about it a bit, not really different from other types of businesses. An individual customer is much more important to a small business than to a big one.

- Quality is correlated with price as well, but only loosely and with lots of exceptions.

All of this is basically common sense.

-Ww

 

[Frenchy]

- Beyond that, internet indies with their own websites (i.e., not just advertising via temporary classified ads) are the best bet and definitely a better bet than agency escorts. This all makes perfect economic sense if you think about it a bit, not really different from other types of businesses. An individual customer is much more important to a small business than to a big one.

-Ww

Actually agreed with most of what you wrote except the above. Each escort runs a "small business" : whether they decide to outsource some aspects (website, booking process, legal aspects etc) to an agency or not doesn't change the fact that in the end it's one lady and her client in a bedroom. And in both cases if they don't attract clients they don't get paid. And in both cases there can be chemistry or not, good service or not, value or not. Your statement would be more accurate if it was like salaried workers on one side vs independent artists on the other , but it's not the case.

IMO You just take more chances with an independent because 1. On average they are more expensive . 2. You can't complain to her agency if anything goes wrong. And 3. to come back to the original point , they are usually more inclined to ask you to change the date's time after it's fixed (happened to me twice) or not answer as quickly as the agency... or not answer at all if for whatever reason they don't take clients for some time and "you should have read my website / I don't owe you any answer" kind of attitude

 

[e-smile]

Actually agreed with most of what you wrote except the above. Each escort runs a "small business" : whether they decide to outsource some aspects (website, booking process, legal aspects etc) to an agency or not doesn't change the fact that in the end it's one lady and her client in a bedroom. And in both cases if they don't attract clients they don't get paid. And in both cases there can be chemistry or not, good service or not, value or not. Your statement would be more accurate if it was like salaried workers on one side vs independent artists on the other , but it's not the case.

IMO You just take more chances with an independent because 1. On average they are more expensive . 2. You can't complain to her agency if anything goes wrong. And 3. to come back to the original point , they are usually more inclined to ask you to change the date's time after it's fixed (happened to me twice) or not answer as quickly as the agency... or not answer at all if for whatever reason they don't take clients for some time and "you should have read my website / I don't owe you any answer" kind of attitude

I'd rather someone change the fixed date than ruin it by coming unwillingly.

 

[Frenchy]

Back to the topic another good point about independents is that they are promoting themselves and trying to build a reputation so I can trust them more with their health (and their attitude) while agency girls are anonymous who may leave the business anytime ...

I don't get it . Any independent (TAG or not) is also anonymous (I suppose you mean by that not using her real name , right?) and may leave the business anytime . Also good agencies also try to build a reputation, provide STD screenings , and will not send you a lady if she's sick.

Not to say that agencies are intrinsically better than independents but they are not intrinsically worse either.

 

[Frenchy]

I'd rather someone change the fixed date than ruin it by coming unwillingly.

Yes , me too. But usually agency ladies give their schedule in advance to the managers so when they are available it's willingly . Of course I don't talk about forced prostitution here. As far as I could tell the ladies of AM and [Redacted] are not slaves

 

[e-smile]

I don't get it . Any independent (TAG or not) is also anonymous (I suppose you mean by that not using her real name , right?) and may leave the business anytime . Also good agencies also try to build a reputation, provide STD screenings , and will not send you a lady if she's sick.

Not to say that agencies are intrinsically better than independents but they are not intrinsically worse either.

what I meant by Anonymous is that they don't have their own label. Independents even if they use a scene name they will have a full one that will be specific like a brand not a common Asami, Rei, Aki who are used in many agencies and can even be given to a recruit after the previous one leave.

You said that in the bed it's one person with another in both case and it's true but as a business it's different and you're the agency's client and if a girl is planning to leave the agency she may not give much importance to the agency's reputation.

Those are only impressions I have, as I said earlier I still haven't tried any agency or any independent and one additional impression I have from reading the reviews is that independents enjoy what they do more than the girls who are under an agency that can put them under pressure in addition to taking a part of their earning while they do all the service.

 

[e-smile]

Yes , me too. But usually agency ladies give their schedule in advance to the managers so when they are available it's willingly . Of course I don't talk about forced prostitution here. As far as I could tell the ladies of AM and [Redacted] are not slaves

I suspect some of the girls to work even on days they don't really feel like working even without talking about forced prostitution. We all have those kind of days.

 

[Frenchy]

what I meant by Anonymous is that they don't have their own label. Independents even if they use a scene name they will have a full one that will be specific like a brand not a common Asami, Rei, Aki who are used in many agencies and can even be given to a recruit after the previous one leave.

You said that in the bed it's one person with another in both case and it's true but as a business it's different and you're the agency's client and if a girl is planning to leave the agency she may not give much importance to the agency's reputation.

Those are only impressions I have, as I said earlier I still haven't tried any agency or any independent and one additional impression I have from reading the reviews is that independents enjoy what they do more than the girls who are under an agency that can put them under pressure in addition to taking a part of their earning while they do all the service.

Well you should try first , both sides, and you will see there is no correlation.
Met some agency ladies who seemed to enjoy what they do much more than some indies (and vice-versa) , met some independent ladies who didn't seem to care so much about their own reputation but agency ladies who did...
at the end of the day the only things that you can compare is how much you paid vs how much pleasure you got.

But good luck in your discovery of the wonderful jungle of P4P!

 

[Frenchy]

I suspect some of the girls to work even on days they don't really feel like working even without talking about forced prostitution. We all have those kind of days.

Yes, very true and I suspect indies do too. Not to blame them for that of course. We all need to pay our bills, even if we'd better go to the beach

 

[e-smile]

Well you should try first , both sides, and you will see there is no correlation.
Met some agency ladies who seemed to enjoy what they do much more than some indies (and vice-versa) , met some independent ladies who didn't seem to care so much about their own reputation but agency ladies who did...
at the end of the day the only things that you can compare is how much you paid vs how much pleasure you got.

But good luck in your discovery of the wonderful jungle of P4P!

As I said before, 1 person's experience isn't a stat. I could be lucky with one and unlucky on the other regardless of the real probability.
So even if my own experience (when I'll have a relevant one) is different from the observation based on many customers I'll still think there are more people scammed by agencies than by independents. And the observation is going the same way as logic. With independents you have only one person's reliability to deal with, with agencies you gamble with the agency guys (who are not necessarily the most trustworthy people on earth) and the girl herself.

 

[e-smile]

Yes, very true and I suspect indies do too. Not to blame them for that of course. We all need to pay our bills, even if we'd better go to the beach

probably less than full time workers. Would be the same difference for independent artists compared to those working in a cartoon production company.

 

[Frenchy]

As I said before, 1 person's experience isn't a stat. I could be lucky with one and unlucky on the other regardless of the real probability.
So even if my own experience (when I'll have a relevant one) is different from the observation based on many customers I'll still think there are more people scammed by agencies than by independents. And the observation is going the same way as logic. With independents you have only one person's reliability to deal with, with agencies you gamble with the agency guys (who are not necessarily the most trustworthy people on earth) and the girl herself.

Well, if you want statistically relevant results , try many on both sides
Your bias may also simply come from the fact that men with negative experiences would probably complain more openly about them if its agency ladies than indies. And I suapect there are way more agencies clients than indie clients anyway (in Japan at least). But who cares, what should count for you is not winning a maths competition!

 

[e-smile]

Well, if you want statistically relevant results , try many on both sides

What if I'm particularly unlucky or lucky ?
You can replace "lucky" with "cautious" in my agency choice and my ability to deal with them could be different from someone else's. When I read some reviews I often think that I would have made me react differently compared with the review author. For example unlike some guys I wouldn't book a long course for a first time with an agency (or an independent).
Anyway even if I try all the indies and agencies in Japan that would still be a one guy's stat.

Your bias may also simply come from the fact that men with negative experiences would probably complain more openly about them if its agency ladies than indies. And I suapect there are way more agencies clients than indie clients anyway (in Japan at least). But who cares, what should count for you is not winning a maths competition!

You may be right but that goes for little complains about quality. But I'm not talking about minor complains, I'm talking about risk of real scam or robbery or getting a STD I don't think a guy would refrain from complaining about an independent if it's something like that.

 

[MossBoss]

My choices would be @Anna Summer , @User#8628 and @Jennifer Maddingly

If only there was a Men's Lounge so guys wouldn't have to say which female TAG members were the 'best' in an open forum.....

 

[Frenchy]

If only there was a Men's Lounge so guys wouldn't have to say which female TAG members were the 'best' in an open forum.....

... yeah, its really rude to do so! And we all know they are all perfect anyway!

 

[e-smile]

If only there was a Men's Lounge so guys wouldn't have to say which female TAG members were the 'best' in an open forum.....

didn't say anything about who's better than who.