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Hi - looking for a few options on upcoming trip to Japan. For context, I've been a few times before, and can do some basic language stuff (maybe N5 level on a good day). I'm late 30's, looking for some fun and adventure.

Deai cafe. I want to try this one.... any options for ones that are Gaijin friendly? Also when we say what we want, should we be generic like "come to hotel" or more specific around things like sexual preferences (i.e. BJ vs FS etc)? Also, when you go in, and you don't like the girl, is it OK to pass and ask for a diff one?
 
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I'd try the ground floor kirari in Shinjuku. I met a guy there once who said he can't speak Japanese at all...
Momo cafe also seems to try hard for their male customers. The staff speaks pretty good English but if they think you can't communicate with the girls at all and might start trouble they could reject you. If you speak as much Japanese as you can i think most cafes in shinjuku and shibuya would let you in though.

It's probably best to be as clear with the girls as you can. FS is quite normal but you don't want to have a misunderstanding about what is going to happen.

And you're gonna ask them to come to your hotel? Some girls might only want to go to love hotels in the surrounding area. If you have to take a taxi or train together they might get nervous.

You choose a girl that you like so she should be your type anyway. If she enters you booth and you notice something you don't like in close up, its more polite to talk to her a little at first and then act like your conditions dont match instead of immideately rejecting her. But the sythem is that you can view the girls but they can't see you. You pick one. You talk to her and then you can choose if you want to go out with her or not. So it shouldn't be a problem.
 
I'm not sure if N5 will be enough. Whether you get in or not, a lot of the girls may prefer someone they can actually communicate with. But maybe Shinjuku / Shibuya has more English speaking girls. So don't set your expectations too high.
In my experience most women there don't look for a date, but for quick money, so your encounter may actually feel a lot more rushed than regular p4p. Oth gems can be found anywhere ;)
As @User#8628 said, try to be as explicit as possible in what you expect. Not just FS, also time, multiple pops etc. Otherwise you may be finished after little more than 10min ;)
 
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I'm not sure if N5 will be enough. Whether you get in or not, a lot of the girls may prefer someone they can actually communicate with. But maybe Shinjuku / Shibuya has more English speaking girls. So don't set your expectations too high.
In my experience most women there don't look for a date, but for quick money, so your encounter may actually feel a lot more rushed than regular p4p. Oth gems can be found anywhere ;)
As @User#8628 said, try to be as explicit as possible in what you expect. Not just FS, also time, multiple pops etc. Otherwise you may be finished after little more than 10min ;)
Yeah, it also depends on how busy it is if you can score a beautiful girl and how long she'll stay with you.

Personally i don't do multiple pops with cafe guys, and it seems not the norm at all. For time i usually tell them not longer than one hour. Girls will probably expect they can leave as soon as FS is finished so i'd advice you do the small talk and a decent foreplay before and after that maybe cuddle a little and let her go.
 
Yeah, it also depends on how busy it is if you can score a beautiful girl and how long she'll stay with you.

Personally i don't do multiple pops with cafe guys, and it seems not the norm at all. For time i usually tell them not longer than one hour. Girls will probably expect they can leave as soon as FS is finished so i'd advice you do the small talk and a decent foreplay before and after that maybe cuddle a little and let her go.

Exactly my experience and the reason why I only gave that a few tries. Not worth the hassle for only a quickie and for longer dates you need someone with the right mindset. That is actually a charm of DH & Co; you pick your time and you get your time.
 
Thanks all for the responses. As noted I'm a 'newbie' and this has helped. I think what I'm likely looking for, based on the feedback here, is more something like 'deriheru' then. I'll have a look thru those postings.
 
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Exactly my experience and the reason why I only gave that a few tries. Not worth the hassle for only a quickie and for longer dates you need someone with the right mindset. That is actually a charm of DH & Co; you pick your time and you get your time.
Not everyone minds a good quicky though and if you book a DH for a too long time and you're satisfied it can get kinda boring, although they know ways to fill up the time.
 
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I'm not sure if N5 will be enough. Whether you get in or not, a lot of the girls may prefer someone they can actually communicate with. But maybe Shinjuku / Shibuya has more English speaking girls. So don't set your expectations too high.
In my experience most women there don't look for a date, but for quick money, so your encounter may actually feel a lot more rushed than regular p4p. Oth gems can be found anywhere ;)
As @User#8628 said, try to be as explicit as possible in what you expect. Not just FS, also time, multiple pops etc. Otherwise you may be finished after little more than 10min ;)

Yeah, it also depends on how busy it is if you can score a beautiful girl and how long she'll stay with you.

Personally i don't do multiple pops with cafe guys, and it seems not the norm at all. For time i usually tell them not longer than one hour. Girls will probably expect they can leave as soon as FS is finished so i'd advice you do the small talk and a decent foreplay before and after that maybe cuddle a little and let her go.
Many deai women will/can do longer than 1 hour. 2 or 3 hours, even longer than that (though rare) is possible and negotiable.

If the time agreed was 2 or 3 hours beforehand (in the booth at the shop), many/most Japanese women will keep to the agreement and stay for that time. Therefore, sex multiple times can be possible.

And if the time will only be 1 hour, the customer can negotiate the price downwards. To include lower prices for quickies of 30 or 45 minutes.

However, it depends on the woman. If she is say a pro or part-timer at such, or if she is a scammer type. With some who are more scamming types, they might make all kinds of excuses to leave the room quickly or early, once they have the guy's money. Some guys are simple-minded, so appear to easily fall for such excuses and she scams them out of time, but other men don't fall this and have the women honor their prior agreement.

The most common excuses of such women are:

1) I must meet my friends soon

2) I must go to work soon

Even though it's evening or as if this isn't her job.

3) Vagina hurts

If the woman reneged on the deal, the customer can ask for part of his money back or request she stay the negotiated time. Because you are both in the hotel alone, various Japanese women will not want trouble and keep the deal. Keep in mind that foreign women are different, so can have a totally different mindset about conflicts and combativeness.

Deai women also take money from customers differently or you can give it differently. This can help you distinguish scammers, pros, and part-timer (college students, housewives, etc...). A pro or scammer will insist on immediate payment. Part-timers tend to be more relaxed and will not ask or argue about money right away. They can wait or not ask until finished, or the customer can put the money on the table and she takes it when done. In the difference of how they go about the money issue, the customer can often see the type he is dealing with.

You can also complain to the shop about how the girl cheated or treated you. Depending on the place, it might have some affect, and particularly if she had multiple customer complaints.
 
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Many deai women will/can do longer than 1 hour. 2 or 3 hours, even longer than that (though rare) is possible and negotiable.

If the time agreed was 2 or 3 hours beforehand (in the booth at the shop), many/most Japanese women will keep to the agreement and stay for that time. Therefore, sex multiple times can be possible.

And if the time will only be 1 hour, the customer can negotiate the price downwards. To include lower prices for quickies of 30 or 45 minutes.

However, it depends on the woman. If she is say a pro or part-timer at such, or if she is a scammer type. With some who are more scamming types, they might make all kinds of excuses to leave the room quickly or early, once they have the guy's money. The most common excuses of such women are:

1) I must meet my friends soon

2) I must go to work soon

Even though it's evening or as if this isn't her job.

3) Vagina hurts

If the woman reneged on the deal, the customer can ask for part of his money back or request she stay the negotiated time. Because you are both in the hotel alone, various Japanese women will not want trouble and keep the deal. Keep in mind that foreign women are different, so can have a totally different mindset about conflicts and combativeness.

Deai women also take money from customers differently or you can give it differently. This can help you distinguish scammers, pros, and part-timer (college students, housewives, etc...). A pro or scammer will insist on immediate payment. Part-timers tend to be more relaxed and will not ask or argue about money right away. They can wait or not ask until finished, or the customer can put the money on the table and she takes it when done. In the difference of how they go about the money issue, the customer can often see the type he is dealing with.

You can also complain to the shop about how the girl cheated or treated you. Depending on the place, it might have some affect, and particularly if she had multiple customer complaints.
Don't take it lightly if she says she is hurt. It's no excuse to leave (can still talk or take a bath or whatever) but it's pretty mean to go on and on having sex to a point that she is sore.

I'd never take money after the appointment again, i have had guys trying not to pay or steal from me (they were not cafe guys though).
 
Pretty shocking and disgusting. Were these creatures Japanese or gaijins?
Japanese. It just happened a very few times and was never really threatening, just sneaky. One guy that took money out of my wallet when i was at the toilet but i heard the sound of the zipper and busted him.
A few guys using the "i don't have enough money with me, i will go to the atm after" excuse and then try to run away. After the first time this happened i have asked money upfront and if they pulled the atm excuse i'd tell them we have to leave the hotel, go to the atm and return to the hotel.
I even offered them a discount for having to pay the hotel room twice (cheap hotel so whatever, wanted to see if they bite) but they just left the room and went away.
 
In the bad ol' days before there were reviews and online p4p forums, "cash-'n-dash" scams against clients (basically the woman getting the money and running off with it instead of delivering any service) were moderately common in the US, as were cases of clients robbing or stealing from outcall escorts. Since neither party could afford to go to the police, all sorts of foul stuff was common, especially down market. I'm sure it still happens as well.

-Ww
 
I'm relatively new to the Deai cafe thing, I've only been going for the last 6 months or so, but I've been 12 - 15 times, in a couple of different cities. Mostly Kirari and the vast majority of the time it has been awesome. In my opinion, these girls are angels, they dole out happiness and joy like Santa on Easter going Trick or Treating. I've only had one bad experience, but I'll get to that later.

First off, I'm looking to have sex with a cute girl in a hotel. I don't mind paying for her time, but I don't want to feel like I'm just fucking a for money. I've tried nearly all of the more traditional routes of P4P and I've just always felt like the process was too impersonal and sterile. But at the Deai cafe there is that element of rejection risk versus acceptance that makes the whole thing feel a bit more real. While some of the girls are full-on professionals, most of the ones that I've gone out with have just been part-timers. My normal time frame has been early to mid-afternoon, but I've gone in the evenings as well, exclusively weekdays - I've never been on a Saturday or Sunday. I've been to Shinjuku and Shibuya (but not the gyaku nanpa one, just the other two). I'm in my mid 40's, I'm white, I speak Japanese pretty well, I'm in good shape and I dress fairly well - not Armani suits, but not Uniqlo.

I've got a pretty standard formula now. I pick whichever girl I think is prettiest, or if I don't like any then I go to a different shop. When they come into the two-shot I introduce myself, tell them I'm American (which always makes me a little uncomfortable because I don't like Americans that always fucking talk about how American they are, but in this setting it's a good piece of info for the girl), ask them if they speak English, and when they say "no" I say "jyaa, nihongo do ganbarimasuwa" and they laugh on cue. Most of the time there's then a little chit chat as they ask me questions, if not then I mention that it's cold outside or something like that. At this point they either ask, or I initiate that I am hoping to go play at a hotel. Out of probably 20 girls, only two have told me that they don't do sex. Usually they ask me for a number. I always start with 15. Many times I could have started lower, but I can afford 15 and I like to think that I pay my hookers a living wage. About 75% of the time, 15 is OK and off we go. Interestingly enough, the very best times have all been with girls that only cost 15. I've negotiated up to as high as 20 (I don't mess around stair stepping, I make one counter, if she stays solid at 20 and she's seems fun I just pay it) but I never go over 20. I've had a couple girls in Shibuya ask for 30, they were really pretty, but also really Shibuya-girl-esque, which is not my type. I've only had 1 girl straight up tell me that she wouldn't fuck a foreigner. I don't mean if she meant all foreigners or just this foreigner right here, but that's alright, I didn't want to fuck that fake eyelash, long-legged, perfect-skinned, sexy bitch anyways. Only a couple of times have the girls ever mentioned a time limit, like one hour. I've agreed but both times we went way overtime and they didn't seem to be in a hurry or anything.

I have met some amazing girls. One of the first times I went I didn't think the girl was so cute as she was dressed sort of in baggie clothes and was looking down both while she was in the room and also while we were talking. But then in the sunlight I realized that she was a stunner. When she stood up straight those baggy clothes were obviously high-end. Her hair and make-up were perfect, not kyaba-kura perfect; but department store first-floor perfect and that's what she said she was. I'm pretty sure she was telling the truth because I've worked in the department store she said she did and she knew about a couple things that you only know if you've been to the back yard. Incredible body and really enthusiastic. I think it was fun because I was able to make her laugh. Hookers are just like normal girls, if you treat them nicely and make them laugh, you'll end up having more fun yourself.

The most fun I had with a girl was one that I pulled from the Mark City branch. The place was dead and I was leaving when the guy at the desk told me to wait because there was a new girl coming in and she was "really cute". There were two other guys there and since this was a new girl, the cafe dude asked us if we wanted to jan ken for her. So we all did and I came in last. I figured I was done for but I waited around anyway. The first guy went up and came back in five minutes, the second was gone for 10 minutes. And then amazingly enough I got a try. I walked in, made her laugh and said I wanted to go to a hotel. She was worried that I had a big 'ol gaijin cock and that it wouldn't fit but I assured her that I was tiny so it would be no problem. Later I asked why she turned down the first two guys and she said they just seemed "yada". She might have been lying, but I really do think it was her first time turning a trick. She was a really sweet thing from Sapporo with absolutely glorious knockers. I'm not in to big tits myself, but these were exceptional in size and buoyancy. She might have been faking it, but she was screaming like a banshee when I went down on her and my ears were burning from how she clamped down with her thighs. She really seemed to get into it and we spent a good 2 and a half hours just hanging out in the hotel. She actually forgot to charge me until I reminded her about the money.

The hottest girl I pulled out of there was this tiny little thing named Yurika. I didn't realize how cute she was because she was wearing a mask when I picked her number. She said she worked in a coffee shop and it was her day off. Not much more than 150 cm and barely 40 kilos dripping wet, she had a lot packed into that little frame. Her body was flawless. I offered to give her a massage, now I do like to give massages, but the reason why I offered was because I could not believe how perfect she was and I wanted to check her out more closely. So I fucking rubbed down every square inch of this girl and there was not a rough patch of skin, or scar, or anything out of place. I swear she glowed and her hair, super long and straight right down to the small of her back, was long a god-damned Pantene commercial. Abso-frickin'-lutely amazing. I try not to objectify or idolize women, but this chick was objectively an idol. And she was skilled! She had control over muscles that usually don't grip like that.

That massage technique has proven to be a winner. It really seems to relax the girls and since I started to do that, I've never felt like they are checking the clock. A couple of weeks ago I picked out one that looked a bit more professional than my standard profile. She turned out to be married with a part-time office job. She was really excited to meet a foreigner, she spoke a little English, I paid her 15 but I reckon she would have come for a lot less. We spent four hours in the hotel, took a bath together, had all kinds of sex. She told me she goes to deai cafe because she wants to fuck other guys, but doesn't want to cheat on her husband. So for her, if she takes a little money, it's not really cheating. Then I think I scored the holy grail of hookerdom. She gave me her contact info and suggested we get together again, just for fun. No money. So I think I converted a into a girlfriend, but that's not confirmed yet.

I knew my streak was too good to last and it sort of came crashing down yesterday. Shinjuku was filled with professional looking girls. One that wanted 30, and she weren't no 30 thousand yen . For me 30,000 yen hookers find you sitting drunk on a bar stool in Roppongi at 2AM and earn their money by getting your whiskey dick hard enough to start thinking 30 sounds like a better deal than continuing to buy these shots of watered down tequila. They aren't wearing yoga pants and no makeup at 2PM in kabukicho. There was one really young looking one that refused eye contact and wouldn't budge from 20. I had had my eye on this one with short hair and what looked like an innocent look but with her coat and mask, I couldn't really tell how hot she was. But after striking out when she was ready to go at my first offer I paid my 2100 yen and took her out. My first sign of worry was when we stepped outside and she swung her bag over her shoulder. That tube around her waist line that I thought was just frills from the sweater, was too solid looking to be window dressing. This chick straight up had a gut and some back fat, oh well, in for a penny, in for a few extra pounds. I took her to the hotel and when she stepped into the room in front of me, I now noticed that the backs of her legs were all scratched up and shit and that I could clearly see some sort of wound dressing peaking out of the bottom of her skirt. She hasn't been terribly talkative and seemed a little spacey, but the description of her living arrangement sounded a lot like rehab to me. Finally I said something funny enough to make her laugh out loud and holy shit those teeth! She had full-on meth mouth, black and jagged, not that cute little snaggletooth that the idol girls have, she was a few month away from dentures. There wasn't any situation I could think of where I would be comfortable sticking my beloved pecker in that danger hole. I pretended like I had to take a call, faked an emergency, and told her I had something come up. I apologized, paid her 5000 yen, and ran the fuck away. Bastards at the hotel made me pay even though we'd barely entered the room.

There were still a few girls in Shinjuku, but I didn't want to hurt the meth-head's feelings if she saw me in the area, so I headed to Shibuya. Both branches were pretty dead and I had two strike outs, but finally a cute girl walked in. She wasn't quite as cute as I normally like, I could tell she had a bit extra around her hips, but she wasn't fat or anything. And at this point I had been rejected more times in one day than I had since I started doing the deai cafe thing, and I was coming off the unfortunate incident respecting oral hygiene, so I was settling. She ended up being really nice, she was a little cold in the beginning but she had a sore back and once I had worked my massage magic on her she got really cuddly. A cuddly fucking maguro. Once the sexercizing got underway she just laid there in silence. She got really wet and would tremble if I touched or licked or just right, but there was no motion. Finally, when it came time to stick it in her, it wouldn't fit. She was doing those panting, hand-waving motions from the pain. I tried all kinds of positions, I spit on my dick, I spit on her cooter, I did everything I could, but it would not. go. in. I might be an asshole but I'm not a sadist, unfortunately. So when my dick is causing pain, it's a bit hard to keep it up. I kept asking her to rub it, and kind of hinting that she could maybe lick it or something. But true to fish-form, she could only sort of do a sad flipper job. So there I was, rubbing my own dick out when there is a perfectly good, paid for, laying right next to me staring at the ceiling. I just thought about Yurika until I was getting close and then I sort of fucked her upper thigh until I came. I pretending like fucking her thighs was like, the greatest sexual experience of my life so that she wouldn't have to feel awkward. I asked her what was up with the super tight box and she said that all the Japanese guys she'd been with were much, much smaller. I'm really only averageI reckon, I mean I wear local condoms, they are tight as hell but I rarely have a blow-out; but this has happened to me 3 or 4 times in this country. I think it's just the landscape. But I also think that if a girl's going to charging money, she ought to be able to handle a bit of a wider range of hardware. So she was a nice girl, but a real shitty . She was my worst experience, not counting the tooth girl.

When it comes to money, I always try and pay when we first enter the room. I figure it makes the girls more comfortable if they don't have to ask. Sometimes I give it to them, sometimes I just set it on the counter or something, whatever feels most natural. I also try and not be too cheap about the hotel. Sure there's hotels that are 2800 for the Rest, but the rooms are old and shitty and they reek of smoke. Usually if you walk a few more meters there's a much better one for 3500 or so. A few hundred yen extra is a good investment if it makes the girls more comfortable. I also usually stop in a convenience store and buy us some drinks and maybe some snacks. Treating your like a girlfriend is the best way to get them to act like a girlfriend, which, at the end of the day, is what I'm looking for.

That's all I've got for now.
 
My god, after reading this why have I been wasting my money at Sexy Kyaba`s hoping to get lucky on 6k per 40min when I can sit here and kill time for only 2k.....

Do I need a cell phone to register for them? I`m fairly young and stand out is it / value my privacy.

Is 清純系 girls there too or mainly sexy types?
 
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Thanks for the exhausting report. Your experience is much closer to what I was hoping for when I tried (not speaking of the last one). I now know, where my luck went to :D
 
@Popen, more please! Very educating for me... what are the chances for somebody with close-to-zilch nihongo abilities in deai cafes? What do i need to learn to get up to entry level?
 
I'm relatively new to the Deai cafe thing, I've only been going for the last 6 months or so, but I've been 12 - 15 times, in a couple of different cities. Mostly Kirari and the vast majority of the time it has been awesome. In my opinion, these girls are angels, they dole out happiness and joy like Santa on Easter going Trick or Treating. I've only had one bad experience, but I'll get to that later.

First off, I'm looking to have sex with a cute girl in a hotel. I don't mind paying for her time, but I don't want to feel like I'm just fucking a for money. I've tried nearly all of the more traditional routes of P4P and I've just always felt like the process was too impersonal and sterile. But at the Deai cafe there is that element of rejection risk versus acceptance that makes the whole thing feel a bit more real. While some of the girls are full-on professionals, most of the ones that I've gone out with have just been part-timers. My normal time frame has been early to mid-afternoon, but I've gone in the evenings as well, exclusively weekdays - I've never been on a Saturday or Sunday. I've been to Shinjuku and Shibuya (but not the gyaku nanpa one, just the other two). I'm in my mid 40's, I'm white, I speak Japanese pretty well, I'm in good shape and I dress fairly well - not Armani suits, but not Uniqlo.

I've got a pretty standard formula now. I pick whichever girl I think is prettiest, or if I don't like any then I go to a different shop. When they come into the two-shot I introduce myself, tell them I'm American (which always makes me a little uncomfortable because I don't like Americans that always fucking talk about how American they are, but in this setting it's a good piece of info for the girl), ask them if they speak English, and when they say "no" I say "jyaa, nihongo do ganbarimasuwa" and they laugh on cue. Most of the time there's then a little chit chat as they ask me questions, if not then I mention that it's cold outside or something like that. At this point they either ask, or I initiate that I am hoping to go play at a hotel. Out of probably 20 girls, only two have told me that they don't do sex. Usually they ask me for a number. I always start with 15. Many times I could have started lower, but I can afford 15 and I like to think that I pay my hookers a living wage. About 75% of the time, 15 is OK and off we go. Interestingly enough, the very best times have all been with girls that only cost 15. I've negotiated up to as high as 20 (I don't mess around stair stepping, I make one counter, if she stays solid at 20 and she's seems fun I just pay it) but I never go over 20. I've had a couple girls in Shibuya ask for 30, they were really pretty, but also really Shibuya-girl-esque, which is not my type. I've only had 1 girl straight up tell me that she wouldn't fuck a foreigner. I don't mean if she meant all foreigners or just this foreigner right here, but that's alright, I didn't want to fuck that fake eyelash, long-legged, perfect-skinned, sexy bitch anyways. Only a couple of times have the girls ever mentioned a time limit, like one hour. I've agreed but both times we went way overtime and they didn't seem to be in a hurry or anything.

I have met some amazing girls. One of the first times I went I didn't think the girl was so cute as she was dressed sort of in baggie clothes and was looking down both while she was in the room and also while we were talking. But then in the sunlight I realized that she was a stunner. When she stood up straight those baggy clothes were obviously high-end. Her hair and make-up were perfect, not kyaba-kura perfect; but department store first-floor perfect and that's what she said she was. I'm pretty sure she was telling the truth because I've worked in the department store she said she did and she knew about a couple things that you only know if you've been to the back yard. Incredible body and really enthusiastic. I think it was fun because I was able to make her laugh. Hookers are just like normal girls, if you treat them nicely and make them laugh, you'll end up having more fun yourself.

The most fun I had with a girl was one that I pulled from the Mark City branch. The place was dead and I was leaving when the guy at the desk told me to wait because there was a new girl coming in and she was "really cute". There were two other guys there and since this was a new girl, the cafe dude asked us if we wanted to jan ken for her. So we all did and I came in last. I figured I was done for but I waited around anyway. The first guy went up and came back in five minutes, the second was gone for 10 minutes. And then amazingly enough I got a try. I walked in, made her laugh and said I wanted to go to a hotel. She was worried that I had a big 'ol gaijin cock and that it wouldn't fit but I assured her that I was tiny so it would be no problem. Later I asked why she turned down the first two guys and she said they just seemed "yada". She might have been lying, but I really do think it was her first time turning a trick. She was a really sweet thing from Sapporo with absolutely glorious knockers. I'm not in to big tits myself, but these were exceptional in size and buoyancy. She might have been faking it, but she was screaming like a banshee when I went down on her and my ears were burning from how she clamped down with her thighs. She really seemed to get into it and we spent a good 2 and a half hours just hanging out in the hotel. She actually forgot to charge me until I reminded her about the money.

The hottest girl I pulled out of there was this tiny little thing named Yurika. I didn't realize how cute she was because she was wearing a mask when I picked her number. She said she worked in a coffee shop and it was her day off. Not much more than 150 cm and barely 40 kilos dripping wet, she had a lot packed into that little frame. Her body was flawless. I offered to give her a massage, now I do like to give massages, but the reason why I offered was because I could not believe how perfect she was and I wanted to check her out more closely. So I fucking rubbed down every square inch of this girl and there was not a rough patch of skin, or scar, or anything out of place. I swear she glowed and her hair, super long and straight right down to the small of her back, was long a god-damned Pantene commercial. Abso-frickin'-lutely amazing. I try not to objectify or idolize women, but this chick was objectively an idol. And she was skilled! She had control over muscles that usually don't grip like that.

That massage technique has proven to be a winner. It really seems to relax the girls and since I started to do that, I've never felt like they are checking the clock. A couple of weeks ago I picked out one that looked a bit more professional than my standard profile. She turned out to be married with a part-time office job. She was really excited to meet a foreigner, she spoke a little English, I paid her 15 but I reckon she would have come for a lot less. We spent four hours in the hotel, took a bath together, had all kinds of sex. She told me she goes to deai cafe because she wants to fuck other guys, but doesn't want to cheat on her husband. So for her, if she takes a little money, it's not really cheating. Then I think I scored the holy grail of hookerdom. She gave me her contact info and suggested we get together again, just for fun. No money. So I think I converted a into a girlfriend, but that's not confirmed yet.

I knew my streak was too good to last and it sort of came crashing down yesterday. Shinjuku was filled with professional looking girls. One that wanted 30, and she weren't no 30 thousand yen . For me 30,000 yen hookers find you sitting drunk on a bar stool in Roppongi at 2AM and earn their money by getting your whiskey dick hard enough to start thinking 30 sounds like a better deal than continuing to buy these shots of watered down tequila. They aren't wearing yoga pants and no makeup at 2PM in kabukicho. There was one really young looking one that refused eye contact and wouldn't budge from 20. I had had my eye on this one with short hair and what looked like an innocent look but with her coat and mask, I couldn't really tell how hot she was. But after striking out when she was ready to go at my first offer I paid my 2100 yen and took her out. My first sign of worry was when we stepped outside and she swung her bag over her shoulder. That tube around her waist line that I thought was just frills from the sweater, was too solid looking to be window dressing. This chick straight up had a gut and some back fat, oh well, in for a penny, in for a few extra pounds. I took her to the hotel and when she stepped into the room in front of me, I now noticed that the backs of her legs were all scratched up and shit and that I could clearly see some sort of wound dressing peaking out of the bottom of her skirt. She hasn't been terribly talkative and seemed a little spacey, but the description of her living arrangement sounded a lot like rehab to me. Finally I said something funny enough to make her laugh out loud and holy shit those teeth! She had full-on meth mouth, black and jagged, not that cute little snaggletooth that the idol girls have, she was a few month away from dentures. There wasn't any situation I could think of where I would be comfortable sticking my beloved pecker in that danger hole. I pretended like I had to take a call, faked an emergency, and told her I had something come up. I apologized, paid her 5000 yen, and ran the fuck away. Bastards at the hotel made me pay even though we'd barely entered the room.

There were still a few girls in Shinjuku, but I didn't want to hurt the meth-head's feelings if she saw me in the area, so I headed to Shibuya. Both branches were pretty dead and I had two strike outs, but finally a cute girl walked in. She wasn't quite as cute as I normally like, I could tell she had a bit extra around her hips, but she wasn't fat or anything. And at this point I had been rejected more times in one day than I had since I started doing the deai cafe thing, and I was coming off the unfortunate incident respecting oral hygiene, so I was settling. She ended up being really nice, she was a little cold in the beginning but she had a sore back and once I had worked my massage magic on her she got really cuddly. A cuddly fucking maguro. Once the sexercizing got underway she just laid there in silence. She got really wet and would tremble if I touched or licked or just right, but there was no motion. Finally, when it came time to stick it in her, it wouldn't fit. She was doing those panting, hand-waving motions from the pain. I tried all kinds of positions, I spit on my dick, I spit on her cooter, I did everything I could, but it would not. go. in. I might be an asshole but I'm not a sadist, unfortunately. So when my dick is causing pain, it's a bit hard to keep it up. I kept asking her to rub it, and kind of hinting that she could maybe lick it or something. But true to fish-form, she could only sort of do a sad flipper job. So there I was, rubbing my own dick out when there is a perfectly good, paid for, laying right next to me staring at the ceiling. I just thought about Yurika until I was getting close and then I sort of fucked her upper thigh until I came. I pretending like fucking her thighs was like, the greatest sexual experience of my life so that she wouldn't have to feel awkward. I asked her what was up with the super tight box and she said that all the Japanese guys she'd been with were much, much smaller. I'm really only averageI reckon, I mean I wear local condoms, they are tight as hell but I rarely have a blow-out; but this has happened to me 3 or 4 times in this country. I think it's just the landscape. But I also think that if a girl's going to charging money, she ought to be able to handle a bit of a wider range of hardware. So she was a nice girl, but a real shitty . She was my worst experience, not counting the tooth girl.

When it comes to money, I always try and pay when we first enter the room. I figure it makes the girls more comfortable if they don't have to ask. Sometimes I give it to them, sometimes I just set it on the counter or something, whatever feels most natural. I also try and not be too cheap about the hotel. Sure there's hotels that are 2800 for the Rest, but the rooms are old and shitty and they reek of smoke. Usually if you walk a few more meters there's a much better one for 3500 or so. A few hundred yen extra is a good investment if it makes the girls more comfortable. I also usually stop in a convenience store and buy us some drinks and maybe some snacks. Treating your like a girlfriend is the best way to get them to act like a girlfriend, which, at the end of the day, is what I'm looking for.

That's all I've got for now.
Yeah, massages are a good way to make a girl relax and get closer to you.
Also the hotel point, its like 1000 yen extra for a pretty room like XO instead of those boxes which only difference from rental rooms is that they do have a toilet inside.
I generally really liked your story but i'm a little disturbed by the word "".
 
Yeah, massages are a good way to make a girl relax and get closer to you.
Also the hotel point, its like 1000 yen extra for a pretty room like XO instead of those boxes which only difference from rental rooms is that they do have a toilet inside.
I generally really liked your story but i'm a little disturbed by the word "".

Sorry to disturb. I figure if it's good enough for rugby, it's certainly a good enough term for the world's noblest profession.
 
@Popen, more please! Very educating for me... what are the chances for somebody with close-to-zilch nihongo abilities in deai cafes? What do i need to learn to get up to entry level?

It's probably next to impossible to get in by yourself if you don't speak any Japanese. I've seen the staff turn away foreigners before who came in only speaking English. If you get someone to go with you and help you register and explain the system to you, then you could try your luck with the girls. It's likely that a lot of them would be able to handle enough English to get the transaction completed.
 
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Thanks for the thorough write-up. I'd have to agree with Alice that the use of the word "" makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. But overall, it was very informative and is much appreciated!